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What are you going to practice for 40h a week? Besides the chaingrab obviously.
. So a few things I've learned:
he likes to go super low when he recovers, start taking advantage of that more. you could probably bait him with lightshield by ledge alot. practice tipman more too, you missed a few that looked kinda easy, or just recognize the situations where you can just grab the ledge and roll on stage to kill him.THE SET OF AGES
Definitely the biggest win of my career. This guy beat druggedfox
1) spacing is absolutely key to start and continue combos
2) WD out of shield into jab / ftilt is great when your opponent is expecting / baiting a roll
3) Vro made some mediocre edge guarding choices lol
4) side b / down b are SO good against an opponent when you know they're going to grab. I almost spammed it during this set because I know Vro is such a grab happy marth. Using special moves as much as I do probably won't get you very far in general, but I know Vro's playstyle specifically because we play so often and was able to figure out when he would try to grab.
Critiques are welcome and I'd recommend people watch this if they are struggling vs marth, specifically the spacing aspect (THE SPACING AT 9:08 TO GET THE GIMP THOUGH).
GG's DaveBH4 already happened bruh.
Yup. My Eddietipmans were off that entire day, actually. I missed like 3 vs ORLY... who plays falcon LOL. Light shield is decent, too. I just don't like it at certain percents because the ledge hop grab doesn't automatically lead to bair- sometimes they land on the platform and you have to tech chase. It's a good position for ganon, but I like the guaranteed stuff. Maybe waveland ftilt. Idk.
You'll never get away with something 100%. As I said, the special moves here were more of a player thing than a matchup thing. I do use side b and down b too much (when I'm nervous / desperate), but these were all almost perfectly calculated. The ratio of landed : missed side b's was pretty high. Also, I got grabbed out of it a decent amount, which means my reads were on point, but the execution needs work.
Did you see how many times I WD OOS into jab? Lol, I had an answer. But you're right and I did notice that. If you care, you can watch our set the week before. He would nair out of grab range and then fsmash, so I couldn't jump or wavedash. Again, that's more of a player thing than a character thing. Good eye, though. I don't think shield DI is necessary here unless you want to grab, but I could be wrong.
Lol I don't know what I was thinking, I had so much time. Might have been able to fair / stomp here. Good call.
Thanks man! And thanks for your analysis, I appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing how you've progressed as well at BH5 (assuming you'll be there).overall, you were getting a lot of good grabs and conversions. good ****, you definitely leveled up over the past year.
spider_sense
Duuuuuude, tell me you and Emilio are going! BH4 was a ganon-fest, hope to see you again and meet the great Linguini. Practice up
Lol paper covers rock
Yup. My Eddietipmans were off that entire day, actually. I missed like 3 vs ORLY... who plays falcon LOL. Light shield is decent, too. I just don't like it at certain percents because the ledge hop grab doesn't automatically lead to bair- sometimes they land on the platform and you have to tech chase. It's a good position for ganon, but I like the guaranteed stuff. Maybe waveland ftilt. Idk.
You'll never get away with something 100%. As I said, the special moves here were more of a player thing than a matchup thing. I do use side b and down b too much (when I'm nervous / desperate), but these were all almost perfectly calculated. The ratio of landed : missed side b's was pretty high. Also, I got grabbed out of it a decent amount, which means my reads were on point, but the execution needs work.
Did you see how many times I WD OOS into jab? Lol, I had an answer. But you're right and I did notice that. If you care, you can watch our set the week before. He would nair out of grab range and then fsmash, so I couldn't jump or wavedash. Again, that's more of a player thing than a character thing. Good eye, though. I don't think shield DI is necessary here unless you want to grab, but I could be wrong.
Not too sure about Emilio going tbh, but more than likely you'll see me out there.
Lol I don't know what I was thinking, I had so much time. Might have been able to fair / stomp here. Good call.
Thanks man! And thanks for your analysis, I appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing how you've progressed as well at BH5 (assuming you'll be there).
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Uhh.. I dont know.. everything? lol. Perfection, breaking down all single situations and finding answers for it, simple! At the same time making sure i dont fail the more technical stuff so I can do everything i want in a timely manner.
that match was a big example of my inability to adapt. dropped every chaingrab, didn't bother fixing my neutral where sheik was just waiting for me to double jump. no good edgeguards. just piss poor play imho. i don't know why i started falling off, but man that set will haunt me forever.
Coastward
do you practice by yourself or with someone?
Coastward
and @
PseudoTurtle
's sets.
i dont practice at all LOL. dont have a CRT, yet i'm still able to stay up to practice somehow. dying to get one, really want to start practicing tech and just theorycraft.@
Also, don't say that sets will haunt you forever. How often do you think I think about this?
http://youtu.be/MHDXm2MuAT4
Lol.
Sometimes you jumped way too often. Sometimes you committed too much in neutral (whiffed aerials). You just didn't have a solid read on what he was doing and weren't reacting quickly (I don't think your frustration allowed you to). Keep practicing the cg but you need to be more confident. Play sheik players more. Ask people to play sheik vs you.... Until you're really confident in your matchup strats. Don't be hellbent on proving something, there's no pressure. Don't tell yourself you're going to win, you don't need to. Just stay focused on your neutral, pressure and punish hard. More wL into grab, asdi grab, etc. Instead of so many aerials. Just a thought.
Practice tech too. Upgrading your speed is underrated. And so is Ganons ****ty DD.
Are you gonna forget about me again?
Try to record a match with a smart phone. Doesn't even have to be one in service. Find wifi, upload to YouTube.
its not a combo videoAre you gonna forget about me again?
I'll try to record something next time we play, and damn dude, the up airs are real.
Yeah, fast retreating uairs can stuff approaches and don't leave you wide open if you whiff.
The fox i play is super campy though, he waits for me to throw out an aerial
That's what I'm saying. You just described a fox that's easy to bait. Retreating uair requires very little space to be safe since you can dj afterwards. Nothing like SHFFLing a fair.
True, never thought about it that way. Habits are so hard to change, I'm sure I do the same things constantly, and I don't think retreating up air are one of them.
Fullhop dair is another standard bait that still works to this day, and make sure you utilize fullhop dair oos. Try to input the dair FP as soon as you've held jump long enough for the fullhop. This is extra important vs fox (as opposed to falco) since he is short and aerials kill your jump momentum/height, making it easier to hit the top of his head. I think linguini got one in that last match I posted, requires precise fastfall and L-cancel on reaction to get the grab.
I SPOKE IN THE CHAT GO MESpeaking of matches that will haunt me forever...
Oh also, I did an analysis on Linguini vs Tipman
And I also critiqued @
Enjoy guys!
I do this way too much actually, I've tried to cut down on it, the problem is I keep going for it lol.
I asked mostly out of curiosity rather than doubt that there would be enough things for you to practice.
Same. One of my best friends goes to the university of miami and I'm going to try and find a way to visit her this year somehow. Really itching to meet a lot of you guys.
Hell yeah man. Come on down
