Pretty much everyone has expressed just how much Smash is packed into Ultimate, and how ridiculous it is. But line-by-line, just how much is it worth to you?
Smash is worth way more to most people reading this than $60. (That's not surprising--everything you buy is worth more to you than the price--that's why you buy it.) When Smash 4 was coming out, I speculated that the game was probably worth around $500-$600 to me. Beyond single-player stuff I got about 12,000 matches out of Smash 4, which would have come out to less than 5 cents per match. (This isn't counting accessories, equipment, or electricity, but also isn't counting time spent discussing, watching, or socializing around the game.)
But for Ultimate, let's start with Smash 4 (WiiU) and consider the new additions incrementally. We take out the stuff missing, but add all $45 of fighter/stage DLC and then half the Mii costume DLC. Let's also assume we get graphical updates of BF and FD for free. That's our starting point.
How much would you have paid to add each of the following to Smash 4:
(Assume that everyone else magically purchases it too--it's not just a private update for you.)
As for me:
What about you? What would you be willing to pay for the individual advances of Ultimate?
Smash is worth way more to most people reading this than $60. (That's not surprising--everything you buy is worth more to you than the price--that's why you buy it.) When Smash 4 was coming out, I speculated that the game was probably worth around $500-$600 to me. Beyond single-player stuff I got about 12,000 matches out of Smash 4, which would have come out to less than 5 cents per match. (This isn't counting accessories, equipment, or electricity, but also isn't counting time spent discussing, watching, or socializing around the game.)
But for Ultimate, let's start with Smash 4 (WiiU) and consider the new additions incrementally. We take out the stuff missing, but add all $45 of fighter/stage DLC and then half the Mii costume DLC. Let's also assume we get graphical updates of BF and FD for free. That's our starting point.
How much would you have paid to add each of the following to Smash 4:
(Assume that everyone else magically purchases it too--it's not just a private update for you.)
- Just the character-specific numerical balance changes from 4 -> Ultimate, across all 58 characters
- Nerfs to Cloud/Diddy/Bayo, buffs to Ganon/Zelda/DDD, mixed changes to Sonic, ect.
- Just the character-specific QoL changes from 4 -> Ultimate, across all 58 characters
- Shulk Monado change, side-specials that don't free-fall, Robin/Villager/Cloud GUIs, ect.
- All systematic core gameplay changes from 4 -> Ultimate
- Parry shield, hybrid air dodge, dodge decay, 1v1 bonus, no base knockback rage, ect.
- This also includes cast-wide balance changes like 3-frame jumpsquats and landing lag changes
- The new costumes and visual remakes
- Includes Mario, Ganon, Zelda, Link, Yoshi, ect.
- Your single favorite returning fighter
- Snake, ICs, PT, ect.
- All other returning fighters combined
- Your single favorite non-echo newcomer
- All 6 other non-echo newcomers combined, including Piranha Plant
- All 5 new echoes
- 3 additional N64 stages
- 6 additional remastered Melee stages
- 12 additional remastered Brawl stages
- 18 additional remastered 3DS stages
- 4 new stages
- Battlefield Forms of Every Stages
- Includes Identical Omegas
- Stage Morph
- The practice stage, and additional new practice mode options
- 300+ new music tracks
- Includes cross-stage song assignment
- 12 new items, 15 new/returning Pokemon, and 29 new/returning ATs
- Squad Strike and Smashdown modes
- Universal language switch option
- Updated online options
- Such as actual spectator support, character-specific matchmaking, better option selection, ect.
- Spirits Events
- World of Light
- Finally fixing the name-input GUI on the CSS
As for me:
- Probably about $200-$300? A guarantee of several more years of Smash 4 would be worth it.
- Probably about another $100? Some of these QoL changes would also extent the life of the game decently.
- This is probably the hardest to judge. $100? This is the one that makes the least sense in isolation, but it would definitely be up there.
- I could see myself paying up to $20 for all of these outfits as DLC.
- I'd pay $30 for PT, no doubt.
- I's probably be willing to fork over $50 total for the 5 returning vets, $10 each. More for Snake, less for Pichu and Young Link, averages out.
- Probably about $25 for Piranha, it looks so fresh.
- Probably about $100, almost $20 each? They all looks like really solid character kits.
- Eh, maybe $20 total. Really not much more than outfits, but I'd still want them.
- $10? That's in line with what we paid for the DLC 64 stages.
- $20? I'd happily shell out good money for many of the Melee stages, though screw Venom.
- $25? There are double the Brawl stages but only a handful are really fun or engaging.
- $35? The 3DS stage lineup is on average pretty week. But 18 stages is 18 stages.
- $30? GPT looks A+. They are all premium stages, even if Moray Towers don't light my world on fire.
- Gosh, this one's hard. $50? It's just great for events.
- Eh, $5? I don't find Stage Morph super interesting in practice, but I definitely wouldn't mind having it around to play with as a curiosity.
- $50, easily.
- Tough one. $30? 10 cents a track?
- I'd pay $10 for new items and stuff, sure.
- I'd pay $100 for Squad Strike alone; Smashdown is just icing
- $5 and only because I have friends who would get a big kick out of having it in their favorite language
- I'd pay $20 but only as a sort of community donation. I just don't care about online.
- Hard to say. $20? Seems like a fun mini-game to kill time.
- Again, hard to say. $30?
- Infinity dollars.
What about you? What would you be willing to pay for the individual advances of Ultimate?
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