Daniel_the_Seraph
Smash Ace
No matter how much I practice, I can seem to get it consistently. I jump too late and when attempting to waveland onto stage, jumping too late=death.
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How do you get used to the ledgehop required for waveland onto stage/ ledgehop uair?
- Thread starter Daniel_the_Seraph
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Gotem City Vigilante
It just takes lots of practice. What button do you use for jump? I use down to drop and X to jump, but a good amount of people like to use c-away to drop and up to jump to eliminate the chance of an unwanted fastfall.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Yeah it definitely takes practice, so what I did was take my time with it.
First, learn to just ledge hop (getting up on the stage without using the climbing up animation)
Secondly, make sure you're doing this on a level like Final D, Battlefield, or Dreamland. On training mode (since you don't need the c stick and have infinite lives)
Thirdly, make sure you jump with x or y while doing a quarter-circle motion with the control stick while pressing either R or L.
First, learn to just ledge hop (getting up on the stage without using the climbing up animation)
Secondly, make sure you're doing this on a level like Final D, Battlefield, or Dreamland. On training mode (since you don't need the c stick and have infinite lives)
Thirdly, make sure you jump with x or y while doing a quarter-circle motion with the control stick while pressing either R or L.
Daniel_the_Seraph
Smash Ace
Exactly what I do. Control stick straight down, X to jump.
CloneHat
Smash Champion
I use control stick away>control stick towards>X>air dodge.
All this has to be done in less than a quarter of a second! I'm not good enough to do it consistently; I find it too risky to use under the stress of a match.
If you can get it to work consistently, though, it's very fast and very useful.
All this has to be done in less than a quarter of a second! I'm not good enough to do it consistently; I find it too risky to use under the stress of a match.
If you can get it to work consistently, though, it's very fast and very useful.
Dr. Hyde
Smash Ace
I have gotten the hang of this in the past four months so I can understand how annoying it is to get used to.
I first started to get the ledge hop down, I held down and pressed X and moved the control stick toward the ledge. Once you get that down I started to add the trigger right when I though I saw Ganon's foot touch the stage.
It takes time but you can get it down.
I first started to get the ledge hop down, I held down and pressed X and moved the control stick toward the ledge. Once you get that down I started to add the trigger right when I though I saw Ganon's foot touch the stage.
It takes time but you can get it down.
Renth
Smash Hero
I don't use the C stick at all for that noise, tap down - hold straight forward jump hit L or R. it's ssimmple
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
says renth, the ganon king of wave-everything.
though it really is simple...even i'm getting consistent on both sides.
OH do take note, that when you're learning it, learn it on both sides. when i started, i only did it on the right side, and when i was in battle, i tried to do it from the left ledge, and SD'd A LOT. its the same concept either way though, but obviously the hand motion is slightly different.
though it really is simple...even i'm getting consistent on both sides.
OH do take note, that when you're learning it, learn it on both sides. when i started, i only did it on the right side, and when i was in battle, i tried to do it from the left ledge, and SD'd A LOT. its the same concept either way though, but obviously the hand motion is slightly different.
Gardevior
Smash Lord
I tried both the (c-stick drop and up jump) and the (down drop, x jump) methods, but now I can really only do it consistently with c-stick away, y to jump onto the stage. It requires a weird pivot of your right hand, but since I don't do any thing with R ever (I waveland with L) and I'm not going to be grabbing with Ganon right out of ledge hop, it doesn't really affect my game.
Still can't figure out how to moonwalk, though.
Still can't figure out how to moonwalk, though.
Daniel_the_Seraph
Smash Ace
This is great, and I tried it, but about half the time, when I hit cstick down, Ganon immediately dairs after dropping. What am I doing wrong?
Gardevior
Smash Lord
You're not pressing the C-Stick fast enough, I think. Usually when I c-stick away and hold it for just a few frames, I bair (same with dair I suppose). But when I just tap the c-stick, I never do it. Maybe that's your problem?
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
gard ledgehop grab is useful...in fact its almost necessary for the marth and sheik matchups to edgeguard properly.i hope you find a way to be able to do it. and you should go to the last billfest so we can get some matches in and i can meet you
Gardevior
Smash Lord
Heh, I was actually watching some Linguini matches the other day, and he did it five-six times per match, and I remebered my post and said "Great, now some good Ganon is going to correct me and I'll have to admit I was wrong." I'm definitely gonna hit the 'cube and find a way to do this right.
As for Billfest, lol...I still reaaallly suck at this game. But I'll try to get a ride with Foxy or whoever at NCSU is going.
As for Billfest, lol...I still reaaallly suck at this game. But I'll try to get a ride with Foxy or whoever at NCSU is going.
RestInPeace
Smash Ace
What I can't get consistent with is RLD.
Gardevior
Smash Lord
Dorsey
Banned via Warnings
Reverse Ledgedash. Ledgehop toward the stage, wait a split second, hit away and R/L.
Gardevior
Smash Lord
So - end result - you would wavedash off the ledge to get an aerial in, I suppose?
Does anyone have a video of this?
Does anyone have a video of this?
Dorsey
Banned via Warnings
From a RLD you can waveland off the edge into uair or bair, or you can DJ to uair/bair offstage, or DJ fair/dair onstage.
RestInPeace
Smash Ace
I just use the double jump -> run-off technique instead. I can't Bair, but I can Uair if speed is the issue.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
That's a good option, but it's a bigger commitment. With RLD you can also simply ff back to the ledge as a mindgame (and then RLD again or ledgehop into something), which doesn't take much time at all (RLD > FF is an infinite ledge stall; just to show how quick it is) and puts you back on the ledge. And of course there is the benefit of being able to use the reverse uair.
Also, here is a vid for you Gardevior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0DIE-HlghY#t=5m20s
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Side note - Some stages are much harder to reverse waveland and conversely some stages are easier.
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Gotem City Vigilante
True. I think FoD, YS, and even DL64 require a bit more speed/better timing.
FD, BF, and any stage with a ledge and no wall (KJ64, brinstar) is cake.
Actually, they're all easy.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
Wow thanks spider. That who quarter circle motion really helped. Lol while i was practicing i was wonder how did the figure that out.
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
every time i try to RLD during a match, i DI on, and then spot dodge lol. i use runoffs a lot though...probably more than i should. they just look so cool to me.