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Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

What side event should i include in my tournaments?

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Gea

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Snake is very partner dependent. I think he's slightly better than D3/DK in teams but all suffer from getting tossed around. They are by no means bad in doubles but require the proper support to have a "good team," whereas the big three in doubles can deal with any partner well.

lol Broly because player = character, yeah?

MK is too light in doubles (GW has bucket braking) to surpass the usefulness of Wario/GW, which have longevity and killing power as well as mad spacing skills. Those are the most important things in doubles. MK just comes up slightly less in that regard. Not to say he's bad by any means. He's downright scary in singles and doubles, along with being the most capable of taking on 2 v 1. Just not as amazing as Wario/GW by a slim margin.

Think about how useful Wario's fsmash superarmor and bite are alone. He can go all three players at once if needbe with a killing move. Bite is even better in doubles than in singles imo, with spacing being more difficult.

GW has tools no one else really possesses. He can throw off spacing with wind/up B, save partners and set up for stuff. Combined with fairly good walls (nair and bair) and great killmoves make him VERY lethal in doubles. Up + B's usefulness in doubles outranks Meta's shuttlegimps imo. All three of his smashes are insanely good at killing, making the chances of staling all three slim. He has a good grab game in doubles too (Meta less so because of how he throws)
 
UltimateRazer

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Snake isnt THAT good in teams. He can easily get *****. M2k is m2k. He also teamed with fiction for genesis, the best wario, and almost lost.
 
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Also, G&W's bucketing in doubles is stupidly good. Partner with projectiles=free bucket if left alone too long=possible free kill.
 
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MK may not be the best character in teams, but he does extremely limit the viable characters for doubles. If your character is not Wario, G&W, another MK, or someone fairly good like Snake/Diddy, then your team is gonna get run over. MK/Marth for example would probably win against Snake/Dedede even though Marth normally loses to both Dedede and Snake. MK/Diddy would probably beat MK/Falco since Diddy does better in a teams setting than Falco against MK. A good double MK team would most likely necessitate the use of a MK on the other side, as not many combo's I can think of can legitimately take on Double MK in teams (G&W/any character besides MK will most likely lose, Wario/any other character besides MK will probably lose, etc)

Wario will live longer in teams than G&W, and probably do more damage/get more kills, but G&W's versatility and safety is very useful in teams. Also having the ability to hamper the opponent's team projectile usage is helpful occasionally.
 
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so what ppl are saying is thay BECAUSE M2K is great, that means hes not counted in mks ranking? then your just saying singles skill has nothing to do w/ doubles, because it does. ill admit i have no reason to argue if the whole community agrees with the wario/gw best dbls character, bt imo i still think mk has so much utility in the game which makes him a top contender in best doubles character.
 
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MK/Wario is one of the strongest teams out there, possibly only less powerful than MK/G&W. MK/Diddy I think is pretty darn strong too, but it loses to MK/Wario pretty darn hard.

Most top teams include a fairly good MK. You will rarely see a Wario/G&W/Diddy/Snake team win, a G&W/Diddy/Snake/Falco/Dedede team win, etc.
 
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That was a big part of my point earlier (which I didn't hit very well).

It seems that G&W and G&W wouldn't do good but they seem to do amazing with a MK making me feel MK is the best doubles character, and with proper support becomes unbeatable.
 
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My computer is currently packed away Dphat =/ i'm on my neighbors computer atm. Text/PM/visitor message me!
And I was talking about for Hobo17. Or I guess whenever me and Dojo meet up again.
 
BlueJx23

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i got ya mike. but no gay stuff, i'm a homophobe (that's why i try to stay outa the houston thread... it gets dangerous in here.)

i need your number and what airport to pick you up at and we'll be set.
 
mikeHAZE

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is anybody from SA going to Hobo, and would be able to house me after the tournament until Tuesday? i can't afford my flight if i fly out of any other airport..

Please let me know ASAP if you can help me out in any way, it's really important that i do as early tomorrow as possible since tickets are going up in price





Thanks guys


edit: i bought my ticket leaving from SAT on tuesday.
 
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