Houston Smash Ultimate Thread

[frcShoryuken]

So I assume there aren't any places? Surprising for such a huge city.

Def join the facebook groups. I've learned there isn't much ssb talk in this thread unless there's a tournament going on

That being said, I've played Smash at Insomnia (place inside the loop). They don't usually have a bunch of setups for Smash though, so bring your own if you wanna get a good amount of games in. They have TVs you can hook up to

 

[Xyro77]

We talk about everything here. No restrictions.


Edit: Insomnia 5 smash tournament has been posted on the OP!

 

[Xyro77]

TGC3 legal!!!!

 

[RT]

I guess porting him took less time since Brawl and this game share similar assets.

 

[Xyro77]

Brawl 2.0.......

 

[RT]

He could be decent in this game. No more chaingrabs and multhit moves are too good in this game. Plus his smashes are so spammable. Usmash will probably be amazing due to how veritical kill moves are too good in this game and is designed to catch spotdodges and rolls. If Dsmash clips through edges and platforms...

It really depends on how his moves were tweaked to combo this time around.

 

[Knife8193]

Hah, yeah that weekly did run a bit long didn't it. Sorry about that. Working on improving some things.

@Kokonoe

Join these groups for more info:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/HoustonSmashbros4/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/608443695955590/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/KSLS4/

 

[Xyro77]

If you numbered setups and used tio you could speed everything up by 50%

 

[RT]

Was it because people tried streaming every match for the last few matches? I think this is a huge problem as of late if a tournament is extended by an extra hour or two because muh stream matches. Sacrifices need to be made so people don't stay past midnight, at least for a weekly on weekday...

 

[Knife8193]

The one time we used Tio, it seemed super complicated. I think we could give it another shot though, especially if we number setups. I'll definitely pass this along to the KSL admins.

I don't think streaming hype matches was the issue, it was moreso getting people in losers to play out their matches. We were probably being too lenient on people disappearing, not reporting matches quickly, playing friendlies, beer pong, etc..

Also, no more doubles unfortunately. It just won't fit in the timeframe.

 

[RT]

Eliminating doubles is probably the smartest thing, as much it saddens me to hear that...

And definitely enforce matches to play faster. Do some Xyro DQs if needed. Don't let personal feelings get in the way of running a tournament.

 

[Teshie U]

Streaming does slow things down sometimes. Challonge has a great deal of potential for multiple TOs. You just need to enforce harder.

Also, for weeklies you could definitely just for bo3 for finals. Finals take up alot of time because they are usually evenly matched opponents playing more games than anyone else. Its just a weekly and I dont know if b05 is needed.

 

[Xyro77]

Tio is super easy to use and speeds up events tremendously. I can teach you.

Edit: don't use TioPro

 

[Xyro77]

7pm tonight?
www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/06/the_splatoon_inkbrush_weapon_is_set_to_arrive_today

 

[RT]

Well, guess I'll start Splatoon this weekend...

 

[Sinister Slush]

Absolutely DUMB that I have to resort to this. Plus they are not nearly as ideal as having a headset. I can't hear my teammates much on Skype when lots of action is going down.

Why is it dumb. It's the same either way.
If I'm playing a shooter with people, I still have to listen to my teammates bg noise even if I don't want too regardless if I'm using gamepad mic or skype cursevoice etc. lol

 

[Teshie U]

Any shooter with a good voice chat system lets you selectively mute players you don't want to hear, or globally mute all mics if you don't want to listen to teammates.

No one has to listen to anyone, but it would be nice to have the option. Taking away options to appeal to casuals more is just lowering the potential for the game to be awesome.

 

[Xyro77]

"Awesome" is an opinion. I think the lack of voice chat is BETTER than with it.

Voice chat promotes try-hards. Try-hards on a casual/kiddie/non serious game is the WORST.



Also, the anti Splatoon amiibo video is hilarious
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-orx_HTfE

 

[Espy Rose]

He could be decent in this game. No more chaingrabs and multhit moves are too good in this game. Plus his smashes are so spammable. Usmash will probably be amazing due to how veritical kill moves are too good in this game and is designed to catch spotdodges and rolls. If Dsmash clips through edges and platforms...

It really depends on how his moves were tweaked to combo this time around.

Imagine if he still has his dair > dtilt jab lock...

 

[RT]

Dude...done, Lucas confirmed top tier. Time to get rage kills at 20% with Usmash.

 

[Knife8193]

Inkbrush sux

 

[Xyro77]

The newest Official Houston Tier list has been released!

Last updated 6/1/2015 (post 1.0.6 diddy patch)

1: Trela
2: FlipHop
3: GrimTurtle
4: Kara
5: Samboner
6: Gnes
7: Mbhone
8: Whispy
9: PJ
10: Avoid
HM: Tipy

Lucas is being released in 9 days and a patch will come with him so this is the last 1.0.6 (diddy nerf patch) tier list. The next update to the tier list will come in August or Sept.

Congratulations to all who have remained in their position and to those who have climbed the list. Special shoutouts go to those who finally made the list.

 

[The Wall]

BC, I know you're on that panel that helps decide the top tier. I will pay you so much money to bump me in there next time. Jk. I would pay you some money to do this though.

 

[RT]

So here comes the TLs...and soon TLK will be needed again...

 

[Zori]

So nothing for Saturday?

 

[AvoiD]

Still have no idea how the PR is being determined lol. No hate towards Samboner and mbohne cause they my boys, but how are they placing above Whispy/Myself/Gnes coming out to wha.. 2-3 events? Was it taken just from Comicpalooza/TGC2/Texas Showdown?

 

[kj22]

Still have no idea how the PR is being determined lol. No hate towards Samboner and mbohne cause they my boys, but how are they placing above Whispy/Myself/Gnes coming out to wha.. 2-3 events? Was it taken just from Comicpalooza/TGC2/Texas Showdown?

The rules are on the first page. Most recent events count the most IIRC

 

[AvoiD]

The rules are on the first page. Most recent events count the most IIRC

Last PR list was determined from weeklies included. I'm guessing it is just the recent MAJOR tournaments. Preesh.

 

[Espy Rose]

I'm glad Xyro did this. I miss people asking silly PR questions in here.

 

[DEEK4Y]

Still have no idea how the PR is being determined lol. No hate towards Samboner and mbohne cause they my boys, but how are they placing above Whispy/Myself/Gnes coming out to wha.. 2-3 events? Was it taken just from Comicpalooza/TGC2/Texas Showdown?

Here is how: the most biased people in the community debate in a Facebook group while simultaneously creating arbitrary, biased determinations subsequently stroking their egos and further skewing their perceptions.

Inb4: "this isn't biased at all, we use XYZ. Something something new gens."

 

[Lord _ Ganon]

Hello everyone my name is chris and I just recently found out houston had a smash scene. I've never been to a tourney even though me and my friends been playing smash since it came out on the 64. I main Ganondorf and have a few other pocket characters, but I mainly use the dark lord himself. Anyways, I look forward to meeting and playing with you guys in future tournaments.

 

[Xyro77]

Hello everyone my name is chris and I just recently found out houston had a smash scene. I've never been to a tourney even though me and my friends been playing smash since it came out on the 64. I main Ganondorf and have a few other pocket characters, but I mainly use the dark lord himself. Anyways, I look forward to meeting and playing with you guys in future tournaments.

Welcome to the scene! Feel
Free to post about anything in this thread. It doesn't have to be about smash. We are all pretty nice people.

Check the first post of the thread for upcoming tournaments. I've added Insomnia and KSL Championships along with TGC 3.

If you have any questions or need help finding something of smashboards, just ask.

 

[Teshie U]

Still have no idea how the PR is being determined lol. No hate towards Samboner and mbohne cause they my boys, but how are they placing above Whispy/Myself/Gnes coming out to wha.. 2-3 events? Was it taken just from Comicpalooza/TGC2/Texas Showdown?

Its based on events since the last PR voting. Those are the 3 major events that count the most of course, but most of us consider the weekly tournaments that get pretty stacked. You only went to one event where Gnes/Jband were your best wins, Tipy placed the same with better wins imo and he was pretty much left off by most votes. Whispy beat Gnes and Karna once since the patch. I believe Gnes also beat Karna once, but if we use that to put people above the bone bros then there would be like a 20 way tie in the middle of the PR. Sambone and Mbhone both beat Denti, if you can't match that win you need some other major and consistent wins to be above them. Like Grim and Flip.

We don't have any logical criteria, its just a voting based PR. People like me and Trela obviously use logic, but then you have people like Xyro who openly dislike certain playstyles and don't want them on the PR (this mostly just applies to BC being pure evil). If you are worried about newgen being undervalued, Xyro had the most newgens on his voting list AND uses the least amount of logic/results to form his list.

When old gen and new gen show up to an event the top 8 is just Karna swimming in a sea of ancient wisdom on top of the new gen corpses.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Avoid beat Espy at SAM 3 I think but he returned the favor at TGC 2.

Also this Kara kid is going places, I feel it in my bonez.

 

[UltimateRazer]

I think Avoid went down iirc for not being as active. I always said Tipy had potential and he's been rising. TIPYYYYYY

 

[Teshie U]

His results are beneath sambone and mbhone and maybe tipy. The inactivity is just the gravy that helped him slide to the bottom.

 

[Fliphopper]

It was just like the brawl PR. I was still bottom of top 10 but still there cause of inactivity but skill level was higher enough to not be in the ranks.

 

[kj22]

Power rankings aren't the end all be all Avoid, at the end of the day being power ranked #X isn't going to win you games

 

[RT]

As always, rankings don't really matter beyond a silly ego boost. Trela is #1, but that doesn't mean he will never lose to people below him (see PJ three stocking him). You don't need a list to tell you how good your are, let your placings and individual matches vs top players speak for themselves.

If you think someone is "undeserving" of their position. then make it your goal to go after them at TGC or weeklies or whatever. Prove to the panel that they are wrong.

And think of it this way, people tend to underestimate people who are supposedly "not good." This is probably the worst sin you can commit as a competitive player, because you can lose to anyone at anytime for any reason, especially in this game.

 

[AvoiD]

I could care less about where I place. I was trying to understand how PR was determined. It didn't make sense to me that players like Tipy/Whispy/Gnes attend more events (SFC, KSL, etc) along with the top 3 major tournaments, place well, and have that outweighed by the bone bros doing great at one or two bigger events. Sure, they've beaten Denti which is a great win to have under your belt, but the others haven't faced him yet either. Who else have they beaten?

I can understand going down for inactivity though. Like I said, where I place doesn't matter to me. I do think that the players representing Houston should be accurate and based off tournament placings rather than having a win or two against a top player. Flukes happen now and then, so how can you go based off one set? FYI, I do have Gnes/Jband wins, but I did also beat Espy twice at SAM 3 (lost to him at TGC2, making us 2-1 my favor in sets), beat Grim at the same tournament but lost to him in losers (making us 1-1 in sets), and won two sets at a KSL tournament against Trela's Mewtwo (who also placed 2nd at TGC making us 2-2 in sets). I do agree Tipy has been on the come up and should've been more than an HM.

I don't believe that people are undeserving of their position. Mbohne and Sam are def two of the top players in Houston. I do think that those who attend more events, are consistent in placements, and done well at the smaller ones also should be considered more than doing well at one or two major events.

Which results are below those three though Tesh? iirc, I outplaced them at the only event I've attended with them. I've placed the same or above Tipy at majority of the tournaments I've been too. As for the other events, I've taken top 5-7 at majority of the others I've been too.