Houston Smash Ultimate Thread

[RT]

The fact Samus did not receive like 90% of the votes is disturbing.

 

[Espy Rose]

The fact that Sonic got a vote at all is disturbing.

 

[RT]

Troll votes. I would have put all the top tiers as one, but I took it as seriously as I could...for once.

 

[Xyro77]

With 100 votes, it was easy to see the troll votes among the serious ones. It didn't skew the goal of the survey.

 

[Pachinkosam]

What's smash 4.

 

[Xyro77]

The 4th game in the super smash bros series.

 

[RT]

Codename for Brawl 2.0

 

[Pachinkosam]

The 4th game in the super smash bros series.

I never heard of it you see i been in a dungeon playing melee.
:3

 

[Xyro77]

I never heard of it you see i been in a dungeon playing melee.
:3

Poor soul. You need to get out more. The world has moved on since 2001.

 

[z00ted]

O.....


L

afk

 

[Teshie U]

Poor soul. You need to get out more. The world has moved on since 2001.

This is actually a common misconception. In many places across the world, it actually is still 2001.

 

[Shaya]

Xyro77

35≈36. Bowser, Little Mac
37≈44. King Dedede, Charizard, Duck Hunt, Link, Lucas, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordsman, Shulk
45. Lucina
46≈54. Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Mii Gunner, Palutena, Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Zelda

http://smashboards.com/threads/410551/

 

[RT]

Somewhere, Trela is laughing his ass off

 

[Shaya]

It's all his fault it ended up like that too!

 

[RT]

Yes...you are all pawns in his grand scheme of playing bad characters.

 

[Knife8193]

Xyro77

35≈36. Bowser, Little Mac
37≈44. King Dedede, Charizard, Duck Hunt, Link, Lucas, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordsman, Shulk
45. Lucina
46≈54. Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Mii Gunner, Palutena, Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Zelda

http://smashboards.com/threads/410551/

This the best list

 

[Xyro77]

Xyro77

35≈36. Bowser, Little Mac
37≈44. King Dedede, Charizard, Duck Hunt, Link, Lucas, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordsman, Shulk
45. Lucina
46≈54. Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Mii Gunner, Palutena, Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Zelda

http://smashboards.com/threads/410551/

Highly inaccurate. Shulk and Mac are not low/bottom tiers

 

[Shaya]

Well that is 4 groups, so to speak. I bunch them together as low tier, roughly. Although by the results I gathered Bowser/Mac can be closer to mid than to low (up2u)

AND... I personally think Shulk is trash. I do know you're the only region on Earth with a per capita ratio for Shulk higher than 0.0001 per million, but if a top level player like 9B (you know, the reason Ice Climbers ruined Brawl for all those who got over MK) can put almost a year into Shulk and struggle to get top 20 at Japanese locals and within a month and a half of switching to Ryu get's top 8 at major/international level, it's really easy to conclude Shulk is trash, despite the "cool" things he can do.

 

[Xyro77]

Ryu is high tier
Shulk is mid tier

That is why 9B did better.

There is no possible way Shulk is only 2-4 spaces away from the likes of Jiggs and Ganon.

I recommend you come back to syncs house and play Gnes/Trela Shulks. Not only can they place top 5, they can win events.

 

[Smoom77]

who's going to genesis??? i need to see some of you guys!!!!!!!!!

 

[Fliphopper]

Me most likely!

 

[z00ted]

New smashboards interface is gorgeous <3333333

 

[Xyro77]

List of nerf/buff in todays patches

http://smashboards.com/threads/magical-engimatic-land-1-1-1-patch-notes.419067/

As usual, nothing worthwhile for my green lesbian

 

[Knife8193]

Does screw attack kill earlier? That might be a big deal.

 

[Xyro77]

Does screw attack kill earlier? That might be a big deal.

It is a very small change. Not even a 5% difference in kill percentage. Also, players can still DI out of it and fast fall to punish

 

[RT]

Mostly just customs and names drawn from a hat for base moveset changes.

Shieldstun might have been increased at the cost of some attacks doing less shield damage

 

[Smoom77]

List of nerf/buff in todays patches

http://smashboards.com/threads/magical-engimatic-land-1-1-1-patch-notes.419067/

As usual, nothing worthwhile for my green lesbian

no villager buffs, worthless patch

 

[Xyro77]

Shield stun has been increased by a lot according to vids from Japan

https://vine.co/v/eawF5zWXzUE

And

https://mobile.twitter.com/gazer2014/status/649222545107873793

 

[Fliphopper]

Wow. Time to get into the lab.

 

[gamma1]

This could be a whole new meta.

I hope people can get stuck in my DK Down+B if they block. That would be sick

 

[RT]

Too slow Xyro. People are already finding real and silly applications. It definitely is encouraging somewhat more aggressive shield pressure and makes pokes useful again.

 

[z00ted]

Holy **** that is actually somewhat hype, anything on rolls?

 

[gamma1]

I did see something about airdodges and rolls having 1 frame less of invulnerability.

 

[RT]

Slowly going in the right direction for once.

 

[Xyro77]

Holy **** that is actually somewhat hype, anything on rolls?

Last patch reduced roll invincibility by 1 frame.

This patch adds 3-4 frames of shield stun (this is huge). This increases shield drain overall. Those two increase the chances of shield breaks/pokes

 

[RT]

Airdodges and back rolls have 1 less invincibility frame than previous supposedly last I heard.

 

[gamma1]

Yeah it was in some of the data mined stuff for this patch. Showed 1 frame less.

 

[Xyro77]

So that is 2 total. 2 frame difference from a totally unpatched game.

Notice all the changes this game has went through in the 11 months it has been out.

Though I'm sick of Brawl type smash games (and lost motivation to re-learn my character) I am SUPER impressed how this game is shaping up.

Diddy issue? DOUBLE NERF
Luigi issue? Nerf!
Garbage shield system? substantial hitstun buff
Garbage roll system? 2 frame less invincibility!

There is more but you get the point. Developer support and fan feedback support has finally come to a smash game. Def the best smash game IMO.

 

[RT]

Hardly best Smash, still many issues and strange design choices. But it's slowly getting better.

 

[Espy Rose]

64 is ****, Melee has Fox, Brawl has tripping, ICs, and Meta Knight, and Project Mistake isn't a game.
Smash 4 wins by default.