Leaf.
Gets up to speed!
I'm tired of P:M.
Give me Smash 4.
Give me Smash 4.
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Houston Smash Ultimate Thread
- Thread starter Xyro77
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Pikabunz
Smash Hero
Apparently, Smash 4 3ds will not support the circle pad pro.
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-3ds-doesnt-support-the-circle-pad-pro/
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardware/accessories/list_slidepad/index.html
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-3ds-doesnt-support-the-circle-pad-pro/
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardware/accessories/list_slidepad/index.html
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^ lol if that's true what's the point, haha.
RT
Smash Hero
The point is to buy their New 3DS to play it. Uh durrrrrrrrrrrrr.
They could theoretically patch it in later, but if it was a conscious decision to not include support, then...welp.
But yeah, you won't get to practice anything technical.
They could theoretically patch it in later, but if it was a conscious decision to not include support, then...welp.
But yeah, you won't get to practice anything technical.
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I was contemplating not buying a 3DS at all until that's out due to that, but I suppose there's no inner stingyness instinct being valid there anymore. I doubt there'll be much I'll be getting other than S4 on it, haha.
RT
Smash Hero
Unless you're interested in the other upcoming 3DS games, like Pokemon, just wait for the New 3DS.
If the Wii U version ends up coming out in Nov, then it won't really matter if you're patient.
If the Wii U version ends up coming out in Nov, then it won't really matter if you're patient.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
I told you people THE DAY smash4 3ds was announced that the handheld version will be inferior.
And guess what? I'm correct. As usual.
And guess what? I'm correct. As usual.
gunterrsmash01
Smash Champion
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Project M online anyone???
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Sorry, Ozzama Bin Falco, we play REAL smash games. Not mods for babies who can't get good at brawl/melee.
The_Rebel_Within
Smash Rookie
Apparently you'll also be able to DI out of his nado easily.
Let me look for the link
Edit: well shiieeeeettt I don't have enough posts to put a link but it's on my Nintendo news now
Let me look for the link
Edit: well shiieeeeettt I don't have enough posts to put a link but it's on my Nintendo news now
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Leaf.
Gets up to speed!
Did anyone really think that the 3DS version would be better than the console version?
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
I read that it was easier to DI as well.
I'm still skeptical because in brawl we added like arbitrary rules to reduce him and yet he still dominated. MK always finds a way.
Its much more likely that a newcomer will be the best as they haven't had millions of playtesters like they have had for previous games by now.
{Pika and kirby didnt stay good going into melee, fox, marth and peach/puff did not stay dominant in brawl and its likely overzealous nerfs will put MK, Olimar and Falco will all probably be less relevant while newcomers.
MK always finds a way IN BRAWL. Don't let ancient history change how you feel about a whole new game "built from the ground up".
{Pika and kirby didnt stay good going into melee, fox, marth and peach/puff did not stay dominant in brawl and its likely overzealous nerfs will put MK, Olimar and Falco will all probably be less relevant while newcomers.
MK always finds a way IN BRAWL. Don't let ancient history change how you feel about a whole new game "built from the ground up".
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
It's smash, only 1 game was built from the ground up. Ssb64. Every other game has had improvements but nothing completely redone.
I'm not banning anything yet but it's smart to learn from history. I've learned.
I'm not banning anything yet but it's smart to learn from history. I've learned.
Denti
Smash Master
Hows this?????
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
I love it a lot
Zano
Smash Master
I love it a lot
Denti
Smash Master
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Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
........no
^ (just post links rather than embed things with swearing and stuff, plz [i don't care about anything but content rules])
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Denti
Smash Master
Jynco jeans
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Do the Jpn 3ds work with NA 3ds? Multiplayer offline
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UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
Actually, Sakurai has went on record saying they rebuilt the characters from scratch. Not just putting their Brawl code in and changing stuff. I hear that's why characters like Peach and Falcon "feel" different from Brawl.
Denti
Smash Master
Their insides...
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Razer, I played the demo multiple times.
Marth
Sheik
Samus.....etc
Some have nerfs and some have buffs but all feel about the same as they did in brawl.
This game is not re-done from scratch lol
Marth
Sheik
Samus.....etc
Some have nerfs and some have buffs but all feel about the same as they did in brawl.
This game is not re-done from scratch lol
While not really having any idea what Sakurai's definition of "from scratch" is, I use the term a lot in programming / other incremental development and design a lot.
Basically "clean slating" something and then adding in one element at a time that I've already done / programmed so I cover my bases well, change things that don't feel right on a 'new look' and whatnot. A lot of it involves copying/pasting and minor tweaks along the way to things I've already done in the past, but either way I'm still starting something at 0 bytes.
Correcting mistakes or making changes is really hard on large implementations, you don't know where else and how down the line things will be affected. I'm trying hard to think of an analogy but I cannot, lol. Maybe redoing a jigsaw puzzle with all the pieces already kinda laid out in generally the right way?
Basically "clean slating" something and then adding in one element at a time that I've already done / programmed so I cover my bases well, change things that don't feel right on a 'new look' and whatnot. A lot of it involves copying/pasting and minor tweaks along the way to things I've already done in the past, but either way I'm still starting something at 0 bytes.
Correcting mistakes or making changes is really hard on large implementations, you don't know where else and how down the line things will be affected. I'm trying hard to think of an analogy but I cannot, lol. Maybe redoing a jigsaw puzzle with all the pieces already kinda laid out in generally the right way?
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RT
Smash Hero
Yeah, I don't think *every* character was redone.
Mario still has FLUDD...you mean to tell me they couldn't think of another move for Mario, despite having how many new Mario games since Brawl? And his moveset is the EXACT same right down to his Final Smash. Meanwhile, Pit has almost all brand new moves...
It's obvious some characters got special treatment, and others were just copy+paste with a few minor adjustments to hitbox and frame data and some added visual effects.
Of course Sakurai can't say, "Oh yeah, I gave my precious babies special treatment." But actions speak louder than words...
Mario still has FLUDD...you mean to tell me they couldn't think of another move for Mario, despite having how many new Mario games since Brawl? And his moveset is the EXACT same right down to his Final Smash. Meanwhile, Pit has almost all brand new moves...
It's obvious some characters got special treatment, and others were just copy+paste with a few minor adjustments to hitbox and frame data and some added visual effects.
Of course Sakurai can't say, "Oh yeah, I gave my precious babies special treatment." But actions speak louder than words...
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Even if you rebuilt the same character from scratch, its pretty logical you would come out with something very similar to the original. Its still the same character with the same history and pool of moves.
Regardless, its far more likely that a new character with fresh ideas will evolve into something broken, Beyond that its also possible that a mid or low tier from a previous game will rise to the top. Puff went from good to great to bad from 64 to brawl. Only a few characters have remained viable in consecutive games (Fox, Marth, ICs) and only 1 has remained bottom tier (Bowser) and it seems thats obviously been changed.
All of the confirmed Brawl top tiers have been shown to have very clear and undeniable nerfs. Olimar lost half his army, Diddy lost half of his fruity fortress, Marth lost alot of range and safety and MK has alot more lag on tornado and his aerials.
Regardless, its far more likely that a new character with fresh ideas will evolve into something broken, Beyond that its also possible that a mid or low tier from a previous game will rise to the top. Puff went from good to great to bad from 64 to brawl. Only a few characters have remained viable in consecutive games (Fox, Marth, ICs) and only 1 has remained bottom tier (Bowser) and it seems thats obviously been changed.
All of the confirmed Brawl top tiers have been shown to have very clear and undeniable nerfs. Olimar lost half his army, Diddy lost half of his fruity fortress, Marth lost alot of range and safety and MK has alot more lag on tornado and his aerials.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
These nerfs happen in every smash game. I like it.
Zano
Smash Master
don't forget his smash attacks are faster now
Zano
Smash Master
**** you, they're faster
UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
Everyone shut the fish up.
I will main Ridley.
I will main Ridley.