Houston Smash Ultimate Thread

[DelxDoom]

even as a diddy player i like the diddy kong changes. keep his neutral game, make him work harder for KOs and get less reward off every hit.

then they nerfed KO moves across the board... ugh. just making the game last longer. other chars with poor KO options are a little better relatively because of this but i'd rather it go the other way around.

watched some mewtwo. that char will be pretty good i think.

falco dthrow change sounds interesting but not enough. he's so slow and slippery in this game wtf. makes me wonder if he was like that in brawl and his laser/dair/bair were enough to mask it, but i feel like he really is slower.

 

[RT]

People have reported not getting codes or codes not working. From a technical standpoint, you want to send out codes in batches to let some people download the data, wait until a majority have been redeemed, then release and activate more to reduce server stress.

Just be patient and relax. Go play FG or something if you don't have work/school.

 

[Pikabunz]

Codes should be working now. I got my Mewtwo.

 

[RT]

Yeah, just got mine. Work plzzzzz

 

[Fliphopper]

Codes should be working now. I got my Mewtwo.

Did it work previously? I got errors saying
"The item corresponding to the download code you entered is not currently being distributed"

 

[Xyro77]

Samus has faster homing missiles.

F-tilt has a another hitbox (her 4th one) and her f-tilt does an extra 1%. Point blank version of f-tilt 2 and 3 do less knock back....wtf it looks almost like a phantom hit now.

That's all she got.

 

[♫ Zura ♫]

Smh i still havent received mine. The suspense is killing me.

 

[RT]

Samus has faster homing missiles.

F-tilt has a another hitbox (her 4th one) and her f-tilt does an extra 1%.

That's all she got.

I read her dthrow knockback reduced for better combo use?

 

[gamma1]

So they changed lylat. Shouldn't be as jank now

 

[Teshie U]

Samus has faster homing missiles.

F-tilt has a another hitbox (her 4th one) and her f-tilt does an extra 1%. Point blank version of f-tilt 2 and 3 do less knock back....wtf it looks almost like a phantom hit now.

That's all she got.

is the knockback increased?

not sure if i want faster missles

 

[RT]

Lucario has no changes except maybe removal of RCO. Balanced character.

Apparently Shadow Ball no longer has a charge hitbox. Somewhere, Trela is sad...

Interesting they changed Lylat edges. Can anyone test if they fixed Wuhu Island boat exploit?

 

[DelxDoom]

no shadowball charge hitboxes = i think everyone who wants to use mewtwo is sad

diddy is still ridiculously good, just won't KO nearly as easily

 

[Xyro77]

I read her dthrow knockback reduced for better combo use?

I'm calling placebo effect on that. I see/feel no change.

is the knockback increased?

not sure if i want faster missles

Hit stun and knocback have been reduced on f-tilt up and f-tilt down if done at point black range.

There is also a 4th hit box for f-tilt

Point blank range
Mid range
Tipper rang
Very tip of the tipper

 

[Xyro77]

Mewtwo:

Side B to jab 1 to grab to dthrow to nair/fair or Usmash or dash attack

Over 35% combo

 

[DelxDoom]

dthrow doesn't combo into anything, but it does set up airdodge/jump/mash trap well

also sideB hitstun can be canceled about halfway so the combos out of it aren't real

 

[Teshie U]

samus dthrow is already perfect for combos unless you want her to turn into diddy kong

 

[Xyro77]

samus dthrow is already perfect for combos unless you want her to turn into diddy kong

He's talking about Mewtwo.


You can get out of his side B early?

 

[DelxDoom]

you can attack or airdodge out of mewtwo's sideB to not get true combo'd into fair/dtilt/etc.

 

[RT]

His Confusion reflector is 1.4x damage multiplier from what I read. Not broken enough.

 

[DelxDoom]

Ryu (street fighter 2) sounds were added to the game files. very cool and funny to me if he makes it in.

 

[Xyro77]

Ryu (street fighter 2) sounds were added to the game files. very cool and funny to me if he makes it in.

It's not true. Ryu sound bytes are not in the game

 

[DelxDoom]

while it is just some reddit post, here it is
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nymz/smash_update_106_decrypted_first_observations/

 

[RT]

Could be placeholder data for testing/future-proofing. Nothing is certain at this point. Didn't listen to the sounds, but is it really Ryu from SF? There are other characters named Ryu...

Would be amusing if Roy does return. This means Pichu could return...

 

[Xyro77]

while it is just some reddit post, here it is
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nymz/smash_update_106_decrypted_first_observations/

People also believed Rayman was in the game. There was video proof too!




Lmao




Don't believe everything you hear online. Especially from reddit

 

[RT]

So...how many Diddy mains mysteriously switched mains?

 

[Whispy]

Could be placeholder data for testing/future-proofing. Nothing is certain at this point. Didn't listen to the sounds, but is it really Ryu from SF? There are other characters named Ryu...

Would be amusing if Roy does return. This means Pichu could return...

Guys, Ryu from street fighter is already in smash! *Cough Megaman*

 

[Xyro77]

WHOA! Has Ganon always had super armor on his falcon punch?

 

[gamma1]

Yeah he's had super armor.

 

[GaiustheThief]

I've been told Sheik's vanish and bouncing fish kill earlier
Not sure if true, can anyone confirm this?

 

[DEEK4Y]

I've been told Sheik's vanish and bouncing fish kill earlier
Not sure if true, can anyone confirm this?

I'm very skeptical especially since her BF received a massive nerf in the first balance patch.

Can't confirm, on the workflow ATM.

 

[DelxDoom]

diddy is still really good. just has to work more for KOs.

 

[RT]

"Work more for KOs" is something people don't want to do anymore.

 

[Player-4]

If they rebuffed Sheik's BF I can understand her nerf to Bair but if not I really don't understand. She already had a hard time killing, nerfing her one kill move before 200% is bull****.

 

[Xyro77]

"Work more for KOs" is something people don't want to do anymore.

So glad hes nerfed

 

[DEEK4Y]

If they rebuffed Sheik's BF I can understand her nerf to Bair but if not I really don't understand. She already had a hard time killing, nerfing her one kill move before 200% is bull****.

From what I've read, the rumored BF and vanish "buffs" kill 2% and 6% earlier respectively.

 

[Xyro77]

P4. Use ness. He's a monster in smash 4

 

[Teshie U]

If they rebuffed Sheik's BF I can understand her nerf to Bair but if not I really don't understand. She already had a hard time killing, nerfing her one kill move before 200% is bull****.

Sorry that the character with the safest frame data and best recovery can't kill confirm at 120.

Sheik is supposed to pressure into gimps or trap with fsmash/vanish. She is probably best character in game once again. Easily top 3 at least.

Mewtwo side B is a good kill setup. People can act out of it, but you can punish nicely. All tech options appear to lose to shadow ball. If they try to buffer an aerial, OoS upsmash kills super early. Fsmash works on tech in place. Uptilt kills and beats alot of stuff. You can Fair the jump away.

He can also ledge cancel his warp just like all the others.

Side B under battlefield platforms is a free tech chase and I think jumping side B combos into upair.

 

[Player-4]

P4. Use ness. He's a monster in smash 4

I don't care about what's good in this game I just use what I enjoy, and that's Sheik. So it doesn't really matter how much she gets nerf'd she's the character I'd play. But alas I don't play this game enough to really care, I just think it's stupid they nerf'd her one reliable kill option. It'd be like if they nerf'd Sonic's Bair in Brawl, it wouldn't make any sense.

And wow a 2% and 6% buff to kill power. My butthole is tingling.

 

[RT]

I heard that there is a way to cancel Mewtwo's double jump animation to get additional height from it (this is not Melee DJC). The physics exploits are real.

 

[RT]

I don't care about what's good in this game I just use what I enjoy, and that's Sheik. So it doesn't really matter how much she gets nerf'd she's the character I'd play. But alas I don't play this game enough to really care, I just think it's stupid they nerf'd her one reliable kill option. It'd be like if they nerf'd Sonic's Bair in Brawl, it wouldn't make any sense.

And wow a 2% and 6% buff to kill power. My butthole is tingling.

F you and your fun, go play MH and get one-shotted by Rsging Brachydios explosion laser.