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Hot Dickings! Jan 30th - 31st! 2010, STL MO. BONUS POT (1/24/10 with LIVESTREAM)

MetalMusicMan

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But seriously, why aren't New Pork City, Flat Zone 2, and 75m legal? This is some bull.
lol, I <3 you Phil.



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Okay, here's what I have at the moment.

THIS IS A VERY SMALL RESOLUTION AND WILL NOT LOOK GOOD ON PAPER. DO NOT RUN AND PRINT THIS OFF, IT WILL LOOK LIKE CRAP.

Don't post this on the original post yet, I will post the full resolution 300dpi version when I finalize it.

Let me know any changes that need to be made, I put Milk's email because his is the first one listed here but if it should be Rauleen's email or if someone wants to put a phone number instead let me know and I will update it.

 

Joker490Frozen

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Here is my single rebuttal, after this I won't argue further because I don't want to be one of those people I was trashing last night.

As for PS2. First of all the ledges aren't the same as PS1, you don't get stuck under them. The only thing you can get stuck under is the stage itself, but that is similar to getting stuck under smashville. I personally think that PS2 makes you jump around certainly no more (in my opinion way less) than other levels such as cruise. No one has qualms with the ground transformation so we just forgo that one.

The ice: all this takes is a little practice on the stage to learn to understand the physics of it. Basically if the move you do moves your character forward or u have momentum while doing a move you will slide. If you have this basic knowledge then you will realize that this transformation really doesn't give any one or two characters an advantage. Just keep your eyes open for sliding smash attacks. There are two platforms that one can hang out on if they feel they are at a disadvantage on the ice.

The belts: there are three platforms on this transformation but really only the one on the left would be safe if someone is in the middle. Strategy on this transformation is to be in the middle, if you can't get there or don't want to be it isn't very hard to plank for the what 30 seconds that the transformation lasts for? What is your opponent going to do in this case? He will slide if he tries to wait for you.

The air: I think that this is the transformation that causes people the most grief but keep in mind everyone moves at the slow speed on this part. It isn't very hard to air camp as a wario would do on any level if you don't feel comfortable fighting in it.

My basic argument is that PS2 only takes a little bit of knowledge and experience before you understand the level and realize that in no way is the level broken. Whereas stages like even cruise give some characters absolute advantage. There is no way any one could argue that metaknight doesn't **** almost everyone on that stage (except maybe game and watch.)

I think the only reason a stage should be banned is if it really makes match-ups unfair (walk-offs, permanent walls to jab lock into, or lets people ABUSE planking <Iowa knows who I am talking about here,*hate*> etc.) and PS2 doesn't fit in that criteria.

That is all. I'm not trying to convince any one here, I'm just explaining myself.
^This, but if the TO decides not to have it then so be it >.0
It is the TOs tourney so what ever they decides is fine with us ^.^
 

MJG

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I am Bias on PS2 because I dont know how to play on it ( I didn't anyways...i still think its gay)

I basically 2nd Legan's post...

@Nicole: MM please and getting high schoolers/ college kids to come would be so funny...free money :)

Also...ACCEPTING ALL MM'S
 

MetalMusicMan

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My 2 cents on Razer's PS2 quote:

Yes, the level only takes a little bit to learn-- I doubt anyone disputes that. The problem is that being stuck in the air for like 30-seconds and not being able to reach the grounds makes you a sitting duck against characters like Metaknight, DeDeDe, Wario, etc.

I won't bother with the other transformations because although they are pretty broken too, the air one alone is enough to justify the whole level being banned, even if it was the only transformation that was "bannable", because you can't even camp it out like you do the PS1 transformations.

There isn't really much else to explain about it. It's not that people don't understand what's going on (at least people who have played it a few times), it's that what happens ruins matchups and eliminates so many options.



Personally, I REAAAALLLYYY want to like PS2. It has better ledges than PS1, which is awesome. It has a better layout, although it's still very similar, and I really like the Earth transformation. Unfortunately, every other transformation is hardly even bearable. Sadly it's just ruined by those transformations being WAY too outlandish and closer to the mechanics of the ultimate lawl-stage, Spear Pillar, than any other stage.
 

MJG

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Lol..I just realized that the rules are on the bottom of the flier ..The first time I read this, I didn't even notice it. That reminded me of advertisements that have the information that they are forced to tell the consumers about XD
 

Afrayail

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Don't worry guys, this random n00b will probably be coming to give you money.

Naw but I'd really like some friendlies for practice. Just playing MK is killing me, here. Also, did you say if we bring a set up, the first $10 is dropped?

Also Charizard > Squirtle.
Just because I think dragons are cooler than turtles.
 

FightAdamantEevee

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N...n...norfair...my ness has nowhere to go. D: And I'm not MK-only, I just use him more often than before. I'm still a Lucas/Ness main, unless I fight some GnW or Marth.

Btw, can I start a petition for New Pork City to be a cp? I'll cp it on Cheese to see his reaction :D
 

MetalMusicMan

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Lol..I just realized that the rules are on the bottom of the flier ..The first time I read this, I didn't even notice it. That reminded me of advertisements that have the information that they are forced to tell the consumers about XD
lol, kind of a funny parallel
 

The Milk Monster

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Man I take a nap for a couple hours, and ****, so much!

Concerning PS2, I really could care less if it was on or not, I won't be CPing it or anything, so it's really whatever to me.

But if people want it on, should I put it on and take a stage off to make it 7/7 still, or just make it 7/8?
 

MetalMusicMan

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Man I take a nap for a couple hours, and ****, so much!

Concerning PS2, I really could care less if it was on or not, I won't be CPing it or anything, so it's really whatever to me.

But if people want it on, should I put it on and take a stage off to make it 7/7 still, or just make it 7/8?
The list doesn't need to be a specific # of counter picks, so if for some ridiculous reason it gets voted in, you would just make it 7/8.

...but there should really be no way that PS2 or norfair gets added on, that would be ridiculous and there's no reason for it...
 

The Milk Monster

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kk, was just seeing. I like stuff being even, so was just wondering.

You're lucky I love you, and see it from a logical stand point Will, cause I ****in' love Norfair.

It may be a ludicrous stage, but, in all seriousness, there isn't a whole lot to break it thankfully, so at least it's not a cut and dry ban, it's got some discussion behind it, which I like.

Personally, I'd rather Norfair then PS2, but I'm ****ing weird.



Also unless anyone has any complaints, I'll prolly' be recording real life clips throughout the event, and I'll put together some sort of video afterwards, in the following week.
 

MetalMusicMan

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kk, was just seeing. I like stuff being even, so was just wondering.

You're lucky I love you, and see it from a logical stand point Will, cause I ****in' love Norfair.

It may be a ludicrous stage, but, in all seriousness, there isn't a whole lot to break it thankfully, so at least it's not a cut and dry ban, it's got some discussion behind it, which I like.

Personally, I'd rather Norfair then PS2, but I'm ****ing weird.



Also unless anyone has any complaints, I'll prolly' be recording real life clips throughout the event, and I'll put together some sort of video afterwards, in the following week.
Hah, hugs and kisses, Milkie :) Norfair is definitely way less gay than PS2, and I don't really like either of them... but while Green Greens or Corneria is worse than both of them I don't really think Norfair or PS2 are much better :\

It's true though that they aren't officially "hard banned" ...but I mean, neither was Sky World on the first rule set, lmfao.

Did you see the flyer?


Oh, MetalMusicMan, were you the guy that was doing Samus dittos with the other guy and was watching me and mike do friendlies?

Maybe? Probably, lol. I do Samus dittos a lot :D

I'm not sure when / where you are referring to but I will assume you mean the last Aerial Rave Minor that I only got to come to the last hour or so of? I think I did some Samus dittos with Chewie.

I don't think I've ever really met you though... I don't remember? Sorry :(
 

MetalMusicMan

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Yeah, I think it was chewie. And it was at the Aerial Rave in September.
Yeah I had to go fishing with my family... >_< so I showed up like 30 minutes before the tournament was over... I was sad because Cheesey Mike took everyone's money and I didn't even get a chance to fight his new Metaknight for the dollarzsz :(
 

MetalMusicMan

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Yeah I saw the Flier, it's sex.

Want me to put it in the OP?

Still looking for a team mate...:(
Yeah if you think it's good to go then sure.

Just copy and paste this code so it links to the high res version and so it has a thumb nail for it:

HTML:
[url=http://metalmusicman.com/files/pictures/smash-hd-flyer-print.jpg]Print flyers for the tournament!
[img]http://metalmusicman.com/files/pictures/smash-hd-flyer-print-thumb.jpg[/img][/url]
Might wanna give it a bolded title or something and say "feel free to post these at school, work, or anywhere you want to draw attention to the tournament" or something like that anyway.

it will look like this after you paste the code:


Print flyers for the tournament!
 

The Milk Monster

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Oh, poop, I didn't notice TP. We'll see, if I even decide to do teams.

Also, FAE, I'll take your MM.

So far:

Legan - 10$ MM
TP - 5$ BBrawl MM (Changed my mind. ;))
FAE - 1$ MM

Any other takers?
 

~GregDang!~

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Hell yea! I'll be playing Falcon Ditto's all day! I'll be the loud Asian kid with a Name Tag so people could find me. :laugh:
 

Teh Future

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lol why does Legan get all the free money =(

will why isn't there just a link to smashboards? it has all the info anyone would need
 

Teh Future

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There's only 6 pages silly.

I mean in addition to stuff already on it.

I'd rather go to a random link than email a random person I don kno
 
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