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Honest Notes From an Honest Gentleman: 13 Ways Women Accidently Attract Men

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Very interesting read, Fatman. Very valid points, but the bottom line is, if a woman doesn't like you, she won't date you or have intercourse with you regardless of what she does or wears.
True, but I think the point is to save everyone of the trouble of women sending the wrong signals, and of men interpreting behavior poorly.

Men and women are not equal, you pretentious clod. To presume that a man can do everything that a woman can do, and just as well; and vice versa, is a completely ludicrous position to take.

Men are much better at women at certain things, just as women are infinitely better than men at other things. I know you perceive yourself as a crusader for equality: throwing yourself into issues of sexism and converting the heathens; but really, you are not any better than the rest of us.
In Crashic's defense, there is an entire school of thought that everyone is really equal at bottom. It's not something I agree with, but it pretty much forms the basis for a surprising amount of opinions and policy.
 

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I like this thread. The hair is a biggie. Use your peripheral vision to check after they've walked past you. ;)
 

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Its from the same sentence. Both are broad generalizations so that you can pretend to have some great insight about people, when its really no more valid than the ambiqidious statements of horoscopes. Its plain stupidity and ignorance of the most destructive degree, because it influences how you treat people on a day to day basis, and shows that you clearly treat men and women differently, and not as people, but as men and women, even if you aren't aware of it.
So you're arguing that I should treat everyone the same despite the fact that people are different? There's the Golden Rule but that clearly isn't what you're talking about. You're talking about pretending that everybody should be dealt with in the same manner regardless of personality and life experiences. In other words, political correctness gone mad. Remember, when everybody is special, no one is.

I don't think you fully understand the harm that your kind of thinking can cause. Everyone is the same. If you're of a different race, your historical background can't be appreciated. If you have a different personality, your individual's quirks can't be appreciated either. Under this train of thought, individual life cannot be truly appreciated. The individual is lost. Everyone is not the same. Despite this, patterns can still exist as I explained before. If this weren't true, sciences like anthropology, sociology, and psychology wouldn't even exist.

I understand that you're just being politically correct but as someone who been at both extremes at different periods in his life, I can say being overly politically correct limits your view of the world as much as being a racist/prejudice bigot.

Nice read, but...



What the ****?
I was a huge racist and I can fully admit that now. It took me about 8 years to fully forgive myself and begin talking about it with other people. As I often say, I like to be honest about myself. Nobody has a completely clean slate and I believe it's nessecary to reveal disgraceful things about yourself from time to time. Why? Because it gives you better insight on yourself and how far you've come in life. I also think it's important to share to help others avoid the same mistake.

True, but I think the point is to save everyone of the trouble of women sending the wrong signals, and of men interpreting behavior poorly.

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This.
 

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Interesting blog FMOI.

The very first "If you're not interested in a guy..." kinda threw me for a loop...I never initiate hugs but get hugged alot, lol.

Now everytime some girl I know wants a hug, I'll think they're trying to mindgame me XD
 

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I want to hear it from you, though. lol
That's not the point of this thread though. It's to show that signs can be misleading so you have to be careful as not to end up landing in a very awkward or potentially ego damaging situation. (Ie; asking out girl only to find she had no interest what-so-ever or a girl attracting guys she'd rather not attract). Also, regarding your comment, you'd be surprized. I've run into several girls who have dated guys despite not being interested in them because they had other motives.
 

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That's a golddigger, like me. Different story. d:
Well, personally, I've never run into a golddigger. I have run into girls who have dated guys because:

1. They were pressured into it by their friends/family.
2. They wanted to convert them to a particular religion/political party.
3. They wanted to "save them" from their problems. (Except in one case, the girls always got in way over their heads.)
4. They were trying to make an ex jealous.
5. They wanted to get closer to someone else. (Usually one of his friends.)
6. They just wanted sex (my best friend sometimes does this when she has a "dry spell").
 

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Facebook eh?

Here's something I wrote just today:

"We never meant to hurt anyone. Just express our opinions on what's right and wrong. Even if that meant lighting a bonfire in a Mickey D's parking lot."
 

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In Crashic's defense, there is an entire school of thought that everyone is really equal at bottom. It's not something I agree with, but it pretty much forms the basis for a surprising amount of opinions and policy.
It's kind of a ridiculous notion.
 

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Well i meant does

In Crashic's defense, there is an entire school of thought that everyone is really equal at bottom. It's not something I agree with, but it pretty much forms the basis for a surprising amount of opinions and policy.
Stem from the the Clean Slate belief that humans are shaped by their experiences or are there really people who, for no apparent reason, believe that humans as a whole are at their core exactly the same? Is there a different belief that makes them think this? I want to know.
 

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So you're arguing that I should treat everyone the same despite the fact that people are different?
They should be treated as people, which you aren't allowing them to be. You are boxing and classifying them, treating them with prejudice based on your incredibly limited past experiences. Its not about being politically correct, its about treating people like people. Not women, not men, not blacks, not whites, but people. If you think I'm politically correct than you don't know me very well. I left Smashboards for a while because I got tired of always playing the PC route on here.

Someone having a ****** doesn't make them a magic pixie fairy, and someone being Asian doesn't make them a Street Fighter god. Other than physical traits, there are NO traits that you can shove off on sex and race. Black people like chicken, but so does everybody.
 

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We are all equal. Every single one of us was born a sinner and we must be born again, baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Well, that's if you wanna get all gospel-like and stuff.
 

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Well i meant does



Stem from the the Clean Slate belief that humans are shaped by their experiences or are there really people who, for no apparent reason, believe that humans as a whole are at their core exactly the same? Is there a different belief that makes them think this? I want to know.
I really don't know where it comes from. You'd have to ask someone who believes it.

As an aside, we studied the Equal Rights Amendment in one of my classes last semester. Sounds pretty straight forward and fair, but it's never been passed, thanks in no small part to the fact that many women oppose it on the grounds that men and women are truly different, and if you make them completely equal under the law, women will lose certain privileges, like maternity leave (the argument being that if men and women are equal, and men don't get maternity leave, why should women?)

I believe there are physical, cultural and social differences between people, and that doesn't mean that you treat one group worse than another, but that you do have to realize and accept that we don't all want and need the same things, and that yes, people are really different and should be treated as such.

They should be treated as people, which you aren't allowing them to be. You are boxing and classifying them, treating them with prejudice based on your incredibly limited past experiences. Its not about being politically correct, its about treating people like people. Not women, not men, not blacks, not whites, but people. If you think I'm politically correct than you don't know me very well. I left Smashboards for a while because I got tired of always playing the PC route on here.

Someone having a ****** doesn't make them a magic pixie fairy, and someone being Asian doesn't make them a Street Fighter god. Other than physical traits, there are NO traits that you can shove off on sex and race. Black people like chicken, but so does everybody.
Recognizing difference does not presuppose prejudice. It often leads in that direction, but it's not a foregone conclusion that it will. Like in the ERA example, you have to treat women differently than men because women get pregnant. That is a biological difference that informs all matter of cultural and social differences between men and women. Saying "treat people like people" completely ignores that we are in fact not the same.

Besides, it sounds more like you're railing against stereotypes than differences. Assuming that an Asian is a Street Fighter god, while a safe bet, doesn't seem to have anything to do with the topic at hand.
 

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They should be treated as people, which you aren't allowing them to be. You are boxing and classifying them, treating them with prejudice based on your incredibly limited past experiences. Its not about being politically correct, its about treating people like people. Not women, not men, not blacks, not whites, but people. If you think I'm politically correct than you don't know me very well. I left Smashboards for a while because I got tired of always playing the PC route on here.

Someone having a ****** doesn't make them a magic pixie fairy, and someone being Asian doesn't make them a Street Fighter god. Other than physical traits, there are NO traits that you can shove off on sex and race. Black people like chicken, but so does everybody.
Define people. Dictionary.com define people as simply human beings. That's about vanilla of an answer as you can give. Again, you're denying the fact that not everyone is the same and that there are differences that set people apart. An apple is a fruit but so is a pineapple. A dog is an animal but so is a penguin. Water is a liquid but so is battery acid. Are all fruits the same? Are all animals the same? Are all liquids the same? Is every penguin the same? No. Are there similarities that you can find between it and other penguins? You bet.

Also, you seem to be driving at that I treat people badly because of my thoughts or that there is somehow some enormous fault in not treating everyone exactly the same. Yes, you are being freakishly politically correct. To you, my crime is not buying into your definition of things. I'm wrong if only because of the fact that my opinions don't line up with your standards.

You also keep ignoring the fact that I didn't say that everyone is like this. Again, you can see patterns in people whether it be between ethicities, cultures, gender role, sex, etc. Being Asian does not make you a Street Fighter god but there are some Asians that are, for example. "Everyone" likes chicken (a statement that's wonderfully ironic given your arguement) but it is well noted that there are a good number of black people who eat at Popeye's and Church's chicken.

It also has to be asked, why do you want my opinions to change? Are you genuinely concerned about my conduct (which you insist is intolerate and potentially dangerous) or are you more concerned that my opinions don't match yours? You're angry and it shows. It's okay for others to have different opinions. As I said before, I don't have a problem with your opinions but I will not be accused of being a violent person because of how you interpret my work especially when your accusations are baseless and how you have never met me. In short, I'm still puzzled to why you think I'm a "bad" person based solely because you don't agree with me.
 

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Jesus, there's like a whole separate side of smashboards where the people don't play smash and take everything way too seriously.

Crazy...

Anyways, I liked the blog, though I think you're giving women too little credit. They know way more than they pretend to.
 

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It also has to be asked, why do you want my opinions to change? Are you genuinely concerned about my conduct (which you insist is intolerate and potentially dangerous) or are you more concerned that my opinions don't match yours?
I don't want anyone's opinions to match mine. I'm incredibly racist and have large scorn for my own race (white), am heavily bias towards women, and neither of these are parts of myself that I am proud of. Despite these shameful parts of myself, I don't attempt to rationalize them by pretending to have some great insight into people based on my very limited (and everyone is limited when it comes to understanding other people) experiences.

What you are talking about is not physical traits, its nothing genetic, its the very basis of their being and you attempting to pin point them and place their actions into a category. "Why did he do that? Oh yeah, because he's a male." This is horrible way to classify people's actions, because in truth it has nothing to do with being male or female. Who a person is can be defined as the actions and decisions they make, it has nothing to do with being male or female. The fact that I have a ***** has nothing to do with the person I am. In fact, in our society, I'm pretty sure I would be far better off being born a woman. (that had nothing to do with my sexual preferences). Being born a man certainly doesn't influence me as a person except for the pressure the society I'm born into. The only exceptions come from very select, very few genetic instincts such as the maternal instinct.

You brought up animals, well let me bring up an example of how this even applies to animals. Male baboons are known for being incredibly violent. A professor from Standard was studying one of the most violent tribes ever recorded. When they attacked a local village, the people went and killed all their adult males. As the young males aged and progressed, they suddenly became the most peaceful baboon tribe ever seen. Males were grooming males, which doesn't sound a big deal considering the behavior of most primates, but this is actually as major shift as would be sharks becoming playful with humans. Even in prim-apes, attempting to justify their decisions based on their species or gender can prove impossible when there is a societal influence.
 

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I don't want anyone's opinions to match mine. I'm incredibly racist and have large scorn for my own race (white), am heavily bias towards women, and neither of these are parts of myself that I am proud of. Despite these shameful parts of myself, I don't attempt to rationalize them by pretending to have some great insight into people based on my very limited (and everyone is limited when it comes to understanding other people) experiences.

What you are talking about is not physical traits, its nothing genetic, its the very basis of their being and you attempting to pin point them and place their actions into a category. "Why did he do that? Oh yeah, because he's a male." This is horrible way to classify people's actions, because in truth it has nothing to do with being male or female. Who a person is can be defined as the actions and decisions they make, it has nothing to do with being male or female. The fact that I have a ***** has nothing to do with the person I am. In fact, in our society, I'm pretty sure I would be far better off being born a woman. (that had nothing to do with my sexual preferences). Being born a man certainly doesn't influence me as a person except for the pressure the society I'm born into. The only exceptions come from very select, very few genetic instincts such as the maternal instinct.

You brought up animals, well let me bring up an example of how this even applies to animals. Male baboons are known for being incredibly violent. A professor from Standard was studying one of the most violent tribes ever recorded. When they attacked a local village, the people went and killed all their adult males. As the young males aged and progressed, they suddenly became the most peaceful baboon tribe ever seen. Males were grooming males, which doesn't sound a big deal considering the behavior of most primates, but this is actually as major shift as would be sharks becoming playful with humans. Even in prim-apes, attempting to justify their decisions based on their species or gender can prove impossible when there is a societal influence.
1. You kind of defeat your own crusade in the first paragraph. You're racist and sexist and, despite the fact that you're not proud of it, you have decided to remain that way fully knowing that it's not a good way to live. It's the equivalent of drinking bleach. You know it's bad because your stomach burns like wildfire and you're throwing up like crazy but you continue to do it anyways. When you're racist and sexist, you do pretend that you have great insight because you believe that you've essentially completely figured them out thus justifying your beliefs. You really don't believe in exceptions. You probably hate white people based on the concept of white guilt. Yeah, white people have done bad things but so has every other culture. You're probably sexist based on your own life experiences. You view both groups negatively even if particuarly individuals have never even been in your life. You draw direct lines between these groups. Whites----> bad. Women----> bad. It's odd if anything that I'm such an evil person when you knowingly categorize more than half of the world's population as evil. It's weird because you're suggesting complete political correctness despite being racist/sexist yourself. You're not just trolling me, right? :laugh:

2. As I said earlier on, if patterns didn't exist in certain sexes in certain cultures, sociology, psychology, and anthropology would have barely anything to work with. For your example "he did that because he's a male", how is that overwelhming negative? Look into zoology and pay attention to the different behaviors that male and females exhibit. If I say that a turkey displays his feathers because he's a male, is that being "sexist?" What if every male turkey doesn't do that, have I somehow been too quick in my judgements and now need to put astericks over all my notes saying *disregard, not every male turkey does this*? As I'll say again, exceptions do exist but to assume that there are not traits that the majority show is fool-hardy. But that instinict, you argue? What, you don't think humans have instincts either? You don't think they have things that get indoctrined into them from a young age? Again, there's the individual but you also have to consider these things as well which affect the individual.

3. I have noted now several times that exceptions do exist and should be looked out for. That's essentially what the last paragraph of the essay says. For whatever reason, you insist that I keep saying that these traits show in everyone of a particular sex.
 

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I think I can sort of understand where you're getting at Crash...but I think you're reading too much into what FMOI has written. I don't think he's saying "Women do 'X' and 'Y' because they're women." as much as he's merely stating "Women do 'X' and 'Y' ".

That, and he's also saying that not ALL males or ALL females behave in the way that he's suggesting in those circumstances. I don't see anything wrong with observing a pattern amongst certain people and drawing a conclusion from it...not when his conclusion isn't necessarily offensive, nor does it suggest that ALL people respond that way.

To better illustrate where I'm getting at, here's a scenario:

You're walking in a mall when some guy taps you on the shoulder and says "hey, I'll give you 2 billion dollars if you can tell me what genre of music that guy's listening to". He then points to a black dude in cornrows, baggy clothes, and wearing a pair of earbuds.

You think it's more likely that he's listening to Country, or Rap? More importantly, why?
 

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If its worth pointing out, for the past few pages Fatman and everyone else has said that he's not generalizing genders, but CRASH continues to still think that way about him.

He must be a really good troll, or really stubborn.
 

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1. You kind of defeat your own crusade in the first paragraph. You're racist and sexist and, despite the fact that you're not proud of it, you have decided to remain that way fully knowing that it's not a good way to live.
Its not that easy. I can't simply say "Oh, I'm wrong, I'll stop doing that now." It becomes an innate reaction, no matter what bread the reaction. I struggle every day to remove this from myself, and it is no easier than quitting a narcotic. Its a battle and an uphill one at that.

When you're racist and sexist, you do pretend that you have great insight because you believe that you've essentially completely figured them out thus justifying your beliefs.
True racism and sexism is more than a belief, its a pattern of thought. Breaking any habbit of the mind is an inner civil war. I recognize that the thoughts and uncalled for and invalid, but that doesn't mean I can rid myself of this behavior so easily.

You probably hate white people based on the concept of white guilt.
Ya know that's an awfully racist assumption to make, right? My problem has nothing to do with the sins of my forefathers, because hell, their ****ing Scandinavians. The only trouble we've ever given the world is writing too much music and ****in around with the Russians.

Also, you got it backwards, I'm sexist in favor of women, probably because I wish I was one.

What, you don't think humans have instincts either? You don't think they have things that get indoctrined into them from a young age?
Again, you aren't talking about those things. you aren't talking about instincts. If you were talking about macho men in a bar, if you were talking abuot the so called "***** wars" between women in a social environment, then you'd have something. You aren't. These are not at all things related to instinct.

Also, don't bother bringing up sociology, that field's as much a joke as psychology. They aren't considered true sciences for a reason, because they aren't.

3. I have noted now several times that exceptions do exist and should be looked out for. That's essentially what the last paragraph of the essay says. For whatever reason, you insist that I keep saying that these traits show in everyone of a particular sex.
That doesn't lesser the severity. Nico, one of the most famous racist went on a rant about jews to her current lover, a jew himself, at the end he asked, "but what about me?" "Oh no, I didn't mean you." Implying that there is an exception applies that there is a norm, implying that their is a norm is harmful to the individual.

Example: Black girl in my old school. Dates white guys because she prefers their featurs. Is a cheerleader, dresses preppy, does other things along that line. People say she's "trying to act white." Here we see the problem in recognizing exceptions.

Honestly, the fact that you honestly believe that black people like chicken more than anyone else pretty much shows how horrible you really are. Coming from someone who was born in the food industry, from a family who built Waffle House and Huddle House from the literal ground up, I can assure you, black people order no more chicken than the rest of our customers, and we serve a large portion of black people, given that we cater to the lower classes.
 

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Its not that easy. I can't simply say "Oh, I'm wrong, I'll stop doing that now." It becomes an innate reaction, no matter what bread the reaction. I struggle every day to remove this from myself, and it is no easier than quitting a narcotic. Its a battle and an uphill one at that.


True racism and sexism is more than a belief, its a pattern of thought. Breaking any habbit of the mind is an inner civil war. I recognize that the thoughts and uncalled for and invalid, but that doesn't mean I can rid myself of this behavior so easily.


Ya know that's an awfully racist assumption to make, right? My problem has nothing to do with the sins of my forefathers, because hell, their ****ing Scandinavians. The only trouble we've ever given the world is writing too much music and ****in around with the Russians.

Also, you got it backwards, I'm sexist in favor of women, probably because I wish I was one.


Again, you aren't talking about those things. you aren't talking about instincts. If you were talking about macho men in a bar, if you were talking abuot the so called "***** wars" between women in a social environment, then you'd have something. You aren't. These are not at all things related to instinct.

Also, don't bother bringing up sociology, that field's as much a joke as psychology. They aren't considered true sciences for a reason, because they aren't.


That doesn't lesser the severity. Nico, one of the most famous racist went on a rant about jews to her current lover, a jew himself, at the end he asked, "but what about me?" "Oh no, I didn't mean you." Implying that there is an exception applies that there is a norm, implying that their is a norm is harmful to the individual.

Example: Black girl in my old school. Dates white guys because she prefers their featurs. Is a cheerleader, dresses preppy, does other things along that line. People say she's "trying to act white." Here we see the problem in recognizing exceptions.

Honestly, the fact that you honestly believe that black people like chicken more than anyone else pretty much shows how horrible you really are. Coming from someone who was born in the food industry, from a family who built Waffle House and Huddle House from the literal ground up, I can assure you, black people order no more chicken than the rest of our customers, and we serve a large portion of black people, given that we cater to the lower classes.
1. I was ***** by one of my male babysitters when I was 10 and I don't hate men because of it. Really, what's your excuse for continuing to be sexist? I used to cuss several hundred times a day and then on April 17th, 2002 I stopped cold turkey to impress a girl and have only cussed accidently 3-4 times since then. You're making it sound way harder then it really is. Truth be told, you probably don't want to change. Also, being an alcoholic or addicted to narcotics is a chemical addiction, being sexist/racist is not; sorry, not the same. It's more like thinking "oh, I can't change" rather then "oh, I can change."

2. Again, you're not trying hard enough and I can say this given how I used to be.

3. I said probably because you never stated why you're racist against white people but for a lot of people I know that hate white people (especially the "self loathing" ones), this is exactly why. I was wrong but what damage was done? I aimed at a big target and missed. This is just another example of how exceptions always exist.

4. The point still stands. You're sexist against half the world's population despite the fact that, obviously, you haven't met all of them. I'm starting to wonder how you would have reacted to this if I was a girl...

5. Truth be told, they kind of are because, as I said, some of these behaviors are indoctrined in people's system from an early age.

6. What? Numerology is a fake science. Astrology is a fake science. Alchemy is a fake science. Psychology and sociology are not. Science is defined as "the study of the physical and natural world and phenomena, especially by using systematic observation and experiment." Both follow this. If this arguement is going dissolve into denying entire fields of study that are well supported then we are definitely heading into dangerous territory.

7. How is it any less harmful then completely denying that norms do exist? Also, the example you gave shows the mentality of the average racist. When they are presented with exceptions, they insist that it's extremelly rare, the one individual is completely abnormal, or the individual is lying if it has something to do with their likes/dislikes. (Black guy: I don't rap. Racist: Liar...)

8. I've heard this before too and said by both black and white people. Both sides set expections on how a black or white person should act not only based on their race but also their economic status, where they live, and their cultural background. Again, this only goes to show that there are norms that can be noticed and affect how people act. Some norms can be negative but that's really a matter of interpretation. For example, the common stereotype of Jews holding onto their money. This could be interpreted as stingy or wise depending on who you ask. It can be given a negative, neutral, or positive connotation. Negative: The act of Jews holding onto their money is greedy. Neutral: Some Jews hold onto their money. Positive: The act of Jews holding onto their money is financially smart. One interpretation demonizes the Jews, another praises them, and the last one just makes an observation.

9. We're not talking about Waffle and Huddle House. We're talking about Popeye's and Church's which both specialize in fried chicken. Waffle and Huddle House don't specialize in either although it is a part of both of their menus. Also, is noticing that a lot of the black people that you serve are part of the lower class "racist?" According to your arguement, it is. Like I said, in the last paragraph, this is just a neutral observation as is noticing black people eating fried chicken. Is it positive? No. Is it negative? No. They can be interpreted as such if you chose to do so which is largely why this debate is continuing on as it is. You see my observations as completely negative, I see them as mostly neutral. "Men are stupid, women are insane" gets balanced out as neutral because it takes a jab at both sexes. In a way, I'm being fair because I'm knocking everyone.
 

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SOCIOLOGY ISN'T REGUARDED AS A REAL SCIENCE, ITS CALLED A SOCIAL SCIENCE FOR A REASON, WHICH CLASSIFIES IT AS NOT A TRUE SCIENCE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. IT IS OFFICIALLY NOT A TRUE SCIENCE.

Honestly, **** you fat *****. I wasn't mad until now, but you have truly exposed yourself as a high and mighty pompous mother ****er, making assumptions upon my personal struggles, making completely obscene statements and saying "they're just my observations,"as if your limited observations has true weight or value, and even more justifiing the classification of people as a good and just act.

There is no greater crime against individuality that you can commit than racial or sexual profiling. You aren't treating people on a day to day basis as individuals but as preset boxes in which you fill your presumptions about them. The world and the people fear you, and so you simplify it by classifing and boxing in people you haven't even met. You justify this by saying "Its true" and then use the actions, thoughts, and words that are in truth sexist and racist to exemplify that it must be true. There is NO LOGICAL reason to believe that black people like chicken more than anyone else. Fried Chicken is a local meal in the south, and an incredibly large portion of the African American population lives in the south. It use to be a regional thing, now Fried Chicken is everywhere thanks to the world becoming a smaller place. There's no reason to believe that jews hoard their money either, except that its something you heard. What you hear isn't the truth, what you see is only on perspective.

You are inhibiting people of their given right to be individuals and putting false, non-existent labels on them.
 

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SOCIOLOGY ISN'T REGUARDED AS A REAL SCIENCE, ITS CALLED A SOCIAL SCIENCE FOR A REASON, WHICH CLASSIFIES IT AS NOT A TRUE SCIENCE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. IT IS OFFICIALLY NOT A TRUE SCIENCE.

Honestly, **** you fat *****. I wasn't mad until now, but you have truly exposed yourself as a high and mighty pompous mother ****er, making assumptions upon my personal struggles, making completely obscene statements and saying "they're just my observations,"as if your limited observations has true weight or value, and even more justifiing the classification of people as a good and just act.

There is no greater crime against individuality that you can commit than racial or sexual profiling. You aren't treating people on a day to day basis as individuals but as preset boxes in which you fill your presumptions about them. The world and the people fear you, and so you simplify it by classifing and boxing in people you haven't even met. You justify this by saying "Its true" and then use the actions, thoughts, and words that are in truth sexist and racist to exemplify that it must be true. There is NO LOGICAL reason to believe that black people like chicken more than anyone else. Fried Chicken is a local meal in the south, and an incredibly large portion of the African American population lives in the south. It use to be a regional thing, now Fried Chicken is everywhere thanks to the world becoming a smaller place. There's no reason to believe that jews hoard their money either, except that its something you heard. What you hear isn't the truth, what you see is only on perspective.

You are inhibiting people of their given right to be individuals and putting false, non-existent labels on them.


CRASHIC, you think too much. You'd probably make a good Debater, if you'd be more mature.
 

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a lot of the things on this list happen to me like people playing with my hair laughing at my jokes and the one i hate the most is the hugging, i cant stand the hugging :mad: it usually comes from girls i don't give a **** about :mad:
 

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I don't see how this is sexist though. The OP was just telling people what to avoid if they didn't want to attract attention. Just because these are common ways to grab attention, does that mean it's racist or sexist? No one was thinking that at all until you mentioned it, and I doubt very many people seriously see it as such. You probably don't even see it that way, you're probably just trolling. Here's a statistic: black women have one of the highest rates of obesity (one article I read a few years ago had it as high as 50%, but I've also seen 40%. Either way, that's freaking high). Is that racist? Is it sexist? No, it's statistics. Science. Go cry if you want.

If girls wear skimpy clothing, guys will notice it. Maybe you won't, but someone will. Wearing more modest clothing may not prevent people from goggling 100% of the time, but it eliminates some of it. That's what the post is saying. It's not racist (lol, nothing in the OP said anything about race at all....). It's not sexist. It's simply reality. If you don't like it, do something to change it. Although good luck changing it, being the hypocritical, racist, sexist person that you've shown yourself to be (NOTE: You've proven yourself to be this. I didn't have any preconceived biases such as racism or sexism to affect my judgment. Just your actions).

If you're not going to change yourself, don't force others to do so. Even though the OP has said he/she (I don't know anyone's gender here, my fail. Also, screw the feminists for complaining about him being used for male and neuter for people) matured out of it already. If you're trying to make him/her realize that he/she is not as "high and mighty" as you perceive him/her to be, there's no point. You're just making yourself into what you're "trying" to knock down.

Also, Sociology, according to everything I've read, is a science. And after looking at what separates a science and a pseudoscience, sociology is on the science side of all the criteria.

In short, he's noticing patterns and adjusting to them. That's how you become successful, or, in the least, efficient. He's just sharing his insights so that some people don't have to learn through trial and error on these specific instances.

"Wise men profit more from fools than fools from wise men; for the wise men shun the mistakes of fools, but fools do not imitate the successes of the wise."
Cato the Elder (234 BC - 149 BC), from Plutarch, Lives

"Learn from the mistakes of others. You can’t live long enough to make them all yourself."
Eleanor Roosevelt, US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

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SOCIOLOGY ISN'T REGUARDED AS A REAL SCIENCE, ITS CALLED A SOCIAL SCIENCE FOR A REASON, WHICH CLASSIFIES IT AS NOT A TRUE SCIENCE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. IT IS OFFICIALLY NOT A TRUE SCIENCE.

Honestly, **** you fat *****. I wasn't mad until now, but you have truly exposed yourself as a high and mighty pompous mother ****er, making assumptions upon my personal struggles, making completely obscene statements and saying "they're just my observations,"as if your limited observations has true weight or value, and even more justifiing the classification of people as a good and just act.

There is no greater crime against individuality that you can commit than racial or sexual profiling. You aren't treating people on a day to day basis as individuals but as preset boxes in which you fill your presumptions about them. The world and the people fear you, and so you simplify it by classifing and boxing in people you haven't even met. You justify this by saying "Its true" and then use the actions, thoughts, and words that are in truth sexist and racist to exemplify that it must be true. There is NO LOGICAL reason to believe that black people like chicken more than anyone else. Fried Chicken is a local meal in the south, and an incredibly large portion of the African American population lives in the south. It use to be a regional thing, now Fried Chicken is everywhere thanks to the world becoming a smaller place. There's no reason to believe that jews hoard their money either, except that its something you heard. What you hear isn't the truth, what you see is only on perspective.

You are inhibiting people of their given right to be individuals and putting false, non-existent labels on them.
1. Sociology is still a science. Your arguement was that it wasn't a real science.

2. Notice how I'm still calm and haven't thrown any insults; you really ought to follow suit. As Gandhi once said, “Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected."

The funny thing about personal struggles is, just that, they're not really personal. People like to go on and on that their problems are so unique and so deep when, in the reality of things, there is always someone who has it worse. I was *****; so what? There are child prostitutes in Southeast Asia who have the same thing that was done to me done multiple times a day for years on end. Looking back, I was baby for not seeking help as well as letting my depression get as severe as it did. As the Buddha said, "to live is to suffer." Everyone has their own suffering so yours shouldn't be held above simply because it is your own.

Good and evil are just words. Same goes for value. Everyone creates their own definitions of each. They are all very subjective and nobody has the exact same outline for all of them. Again, you're accusing me of going against your definitions of good and evil and what YOU value.

Also, I'm not really fat. I'm 6'6 and 163 pounds, close to 60 pounds underweight for my height so being called fat really does nothing against me. :laugh:

3. Profiling? I thought we already covered this. The definition of profiling is:

"the use of specific characteristics, as race or age, to make generalizations about a person, as whether he or she may be engaged in illegal activity."

*pop* I can't say that I do this. As I mentioned in my last response, this is an example of taking characteristics and giving them a negative connotation. As I've said, as well as an increasing number of people who have chimed on this discussion have said, I haven't done this.

People fear me? I look kind of intimidating being so obnoxiously tall and having thick eyebrows but I wouldn't go as far as saying people fear me. :laugh: As for your arguement, do you have proof that I treat people negatively based on my beliefs? Do you have proof that my thoughts ward off people and that I'm actually a hard person to be around for a long period of time? You keep insisting that I'm an evil, evil person but with each time you ask it the accusation becomes more funny than thought provoking especially when I compare how I am now with how I was when I was racist and the 4 year period when I pretty much hated men.

Just because a large number of black people live in the South and fried chicken is from the South doesn't mean they have to eat it. In a sense, it is a cultural perference. Does this mean that every black person likes fried chicken. No. As for the Jews, 12 of the 19 richest men in America are jewish, for example, and there are many other examples that show that there is a tendency amongst jews to save money, make smart business investments, etc. Does this mean that they all do it? No.

4. I'm flattered that you think I have that much power over individual people's daily lives let alone entire sexes. I'm even more flattered by how you think I've somehow flipped society on its head by posting this on here and facebook and have probably had less than 100 people genuinely read through it. I think you're giving me way too much credit then I deserve but thanks for believing that I can influence the masses on a large scale through a few internet posts.
 
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