I'm really having trouble in matchups with certain characters. Not all fast characters, as sonic runs right into pivot grabs or the like, but non-slow characters with reach that outprioritize grabs (anything that hits the pikmin before the pikmin hits the character while approaching, such as swords).
I can deal with slower characters by playing the camp game similar to brawl olimar, but I just can't get the hang of pikmin grabs being able to be hit (things like swords in dash attacks>pikmin), and having lower priority for their range. The less grab range is really bugging me (granted it wasn't fair in brawl), but olimar just doesn't have the range and priority that would make up for his lackluster speed.
I used to brute force characters that had these speeds (and hitboxes that weren't hurtboxes) with sheer dps and denying approaches with grabs, but Olimar no longer offers either of these, as well.
How have you all denied approaches of relatively fast characters that have reach beyond olimar's grab range? Do you just completely give up on this aspect?
edit: also, on a side note, pikmin randomly seem to detach from olimar when olimar dashes or throws a different pikmin/uses a smash. How do you not leave yourself vulnerable while still putting on pressure? his neutrals are good, but do you use those or save pikmin for self defense?
