Hierarchies of Power: The Ganon Community Tier List! (Updated October 8th 2017)

Favorite/Best SSB4 Ganon?


  • Total voters
    242
  • Poll closed .

LoveExpert

Smash Cadet
Joined
Jan 19, 2016
Messages
66
Location
Orange County, New York
3DS FC
3926-8601-0162
NNID
LoveExpert1
I know you have been waiting for new vods for awhile so he is me vs Ironbrand (PRed 5th in the Mid-Hudson with wins over Oatmeal, Ofy, Opana's Ganon and Bayo, Gunblade, etc...) and StockTaker (PRed 7th in the Mid-Hudson with wins over Angel Cortes, Riz, Ofy, Opana, etc...)
 
Last edited:

Litany

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Feb 3, 2016
Messages
143
Location
Ontario, Canada
NNID
Brushfire11
Switch FC
SW-6201-5293-0444
A last minute update, but here are some VoDs from the recent bracket. Wasn't playing perfectly, but overall this is pretty representative of my usual play (plz no demotion).
 
Joined
May 19, 2017
Messages
1
some older events the first one is my newest from this year the other ones are older but here we go:
https://smash.gg/tournament/ppt-winter-1/events/wii-u-singles/overview 33th of 133 (also went out of pools and hype dittos with adom)

http://respawnevents.challonge.com/respawn3 25th of 80 (beat Kunai Kazekun(one of the best toon link player from Germany and currently top 10 in PR Germany) and went out of pools)

http://challonge.com/de/SmashNation/standings# 33th of 95 (also went out of pools and played I guess ok could have done better)

http://challonge.com/de/CMM4
17th of 49th found this online tournament series very interesting and funny because each character could only have picked once

and here some gameplay videos:
https://www.youtube.com/QeS6HV7gVwY
https://www.youtube.com/KXKwzDXYo0
 
Last edited:

A2ZOMG

Smash Legend
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
12,542
Location
RPV, California
NNID
A2ZOMG
Switch FC
SW 8400 1713 9427
Update summary

UR tier added! Praise Gungnir, and watch his set vs Earth in the video subsection! There's also a few other videos added in general that are worth checking out.

Dr. Dorf added to A tier

Lord Bahamut, TB|Van (Blasiancoolio), Crusticus, Tsuji added to B tier

Not added: Kenshin and Miazelement. Videos not judged either due to a lack of variety or competent opponents.

I almost certainly forgot someone given all the people who try to make requests through Discord and don't leave records on this thread. Don't care enough to figure out who it is.

Next update should be July 29th (a bit after EVO to clarify). Going to try to stream around 5/27/17, around 10am Pacific Time.
 
Last edited:

SSJ1/2

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
24
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
I just realized that I haven't posted here, so here's a quick rundown of my placings since I started playing Ganon in the beginning of 2016.
Unfortunately, I don't have a WiiU, so I can't really play online friendlies with anybody :(


- May 22 2016 – SmashFest NEO Monthly 1 Smash4 Singles – 33rd/56
http://challonge.com/SFNEOM1

- SmashFest NEO Monthly 1 Redemption Bracket Singles ST - 5th/16
http://challonge.com/ju6n2p0u

- September 17th 2016 – SmashFest Mentor 5 Smash4 Singles – 7th/21
http://challonge.com/SFM5S

- September 17th 2016 – SmashFest Mentor 5 Smash4 Doubles (w/ Drizzle (Link)) – 2nd/10 teams
http://challonge.com/SFM5D

- September 24th 2016 – CWRU Smash 4 Weekly Singles – 7th/19
http://challonge.com/CWRUS4n400

- October 8th 2016 – Smashfest Mentor 6 @ NyanCon Singles (single elim.) – 17th/86
http://challonge.com/nyancon2016smash4
Possible bad data here, the tourney was single elimination and I got 2 bye's in a row before getting eliminated by a Robin player (so I technically didn't /win/ any sets), but if it makes a difference, I'm confident I would have made it that far anyways since most of the entrants were casuals.

- October 11th 2016 – Intermission Singles – 17th/18
http://challonge.com/intermission1
Bad result lol, only including it for completion's sake. Although it is the only tourney I've ever placed dead last at for singles.

- December 3rd 2016 - It's Always Salty on Lylat Singles – 17th/33
https://smash.gg/tournament/ksu-smash-presents-it-s-always-salty-on-lylat

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

- March 9th 2017 - Smashin' at Lakeland Singles – 9th/17
http://challonge.com/smashinatlakeland_s

- Smashin' at Lakeland Doubles (w/ Azi (Pikachu)) – 5th/6 teams
http://challonge.com/smashinatlakeland_d

- April 14th 2017 - Ecksdee’17 Singles (Round Robin) – 3rd/7
http://challonge.com/ERR17

- April 28th 2017 – Kent Combo 50 Singles – 13th/44
https://smash.gg/tournament/kent-combo-50/events/wii-u-singles/standings
I had a nice win against Jaguar, who isn't as active anymore, but has past wins on many Cincinnati/Columbus (I forget which lol) PR players

- April 29th 2017 – NEOHlympics II Singles – 49th/85
https://smash.gg/tournament/the-neohlympics-2/events/wii-u-singles/standings

- NEOHlympics II Doubles (w/ Crusticus (Ganon)) – 17th/28 teams
https://smash.gg/tournament/the-neohlympics-2/events/wii-u-doubles/standings

- NEOHlympics II Amateur Bracket Singles (single elim.) – 13th/33
http://challonge.com/Neoh2


Here's a couple of videos of my gameplay for those curious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_nt0ySLbJY
Kinda "froze up" here, in the sense that I was doing a lot of day 1 Ganon unsafe stuff (like wizkick on shield lol). I guess also I'm bad at dealing with ZSS's flip jump offstage. In retrospect, I maybe could have brought it back in game 2, but I just kinda assumed I wouldn't be able to; just an example of bad mentality.

https://youtu.be/ODPUrbg1hnc
This is somewhat old and a friendly match, so we're both playing not too great lol. I mostly only saved this because I got a sick offstage upair.

https://youtu.be/bWZathTIRjs
Another older one. Slightly better than the last one, but I'm still using wizkick too much.

https://youtu.be/zTbh47hRgGI
Pretty proud of this one since it's a JV3, although I was kinda lucky that the Falcon dropped shield when I ftilt'd.

I have a bunch of other (and better examples) replays saved on my friend's WiiU that I don't have, but when I get them I can always edit this post or post them in the Ganoncord.
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 29, 2015
Messages
69
Location
Martinsburg, West Virginia
3DS FC
3626-0362-4719
NNID
Blzncoolio
New results thread until the next update. I'll include my EVO placement when I go.

9th out of 36 at The Cave
Notable wins: Cinnpie (ZSS), Crits (Lucas, Marth)
Losses: Serynder (Best puff in the world lol), Z8 (Rosa)
http://challonge.com/singles9

1st out of 21 at Suncrest Funfest
Notable wins: Snake (Yoshi, PR #2 in WV), Redfox (Sonic, Bayonetta, PR #1 in WV)
No losses cuz I 6-0ed the best player in my state lol
I also got 1st in doubles.
https://smash.gg/tournament/suncrest-funfest-6-1/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/13011

9th out of 28 at The Fantastic Store
Notable wins: Primid (notable MDVA Fox)
Losses: Rags (PR MK player), Cree (PR Villager player)
Vs. 3vil (Mario)
https://youtu.be/KtE7BVENHVs
http://dcesportslans.challonge.com/

Central Ohio Smash Tournament
17th out of 90
https://smash.gg/tournament/cost-central-ohio-smash-4-tournament/events/wii-u-singles/brackets?filter={"phaseId":109617}

Suncrest Funfest
4th out of 18
https://smash.gg/tournament/suncrest-funfest-7/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/136470
Wins: Aether (WV PR 6, Ike) Minty Fresh (HM Fox)
Losses: Snake (WV PR 2, Yoshi) SuperDavio (Little Mac)
Vs. Aether
https://youtu.be/v2jNEF3pPx8
Vs. MintyFresh
https://youtu.be/IOxb7ijBg8o
Vs. SuperDavio
https://youtu.be/YGBTJv2jnOg
Doubles GF
https://youtu.be/nfD5hT6Am6Q

13th out of 45 at The SLummit
Wins: Osiris 197 (Sheik) Nature (Mewtwo, Bayo)
Losses: Wadi (ROB, Mewtwo) Coldweather (Marth)
https://smash.gg/tournament/jts-presents-the-slummit/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/137569
Vs. Osiris197
https://youtu.be/733hqoqnshc
Vs. Wadi
https://youtu.be/LiWCmidKEG0
Vs. Coldweather
https://youtu.be/inknxr4ZIxA
Also got 2nd in a celebrity iron man. First video is me vs Dingus Joe, which was a blowout. Second video is me vs. Zephyr, PR in MDVA
https://youtu.be/yrTyYjkdkAk
https://youtu.be/OC7w3qdLmC8

PSG PrEVO
https://smash.gg/tournament/4th-annual-psg-classic/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/138102
Placed like ****, partially because they did random seeding. But took Brosinex, PRed Vegas Ryu, to game 3, game 2 was a blowout my way. Also got a couple friendlies with 9B, and took a game XD wish I had it recorded.

EVO 2017
321st (the closest to making it out of pools? I was one game away)
https://smash.gg/tournament/evo-2017/events/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/brackets/88429/396220
Losses: LingLing (Peach, CT PR) Ero619 (Rosa, Guatemala PR)

PSG Mondays
9th out of 38
http://vegassmash.challonge.com/49eb5q2j
Notable wins: Miiself (Ness, #7 on Colorado PR)
Losses: Jesus (Mario, Zard, #3 on Colorado PR. Could've beat him but SDed at 0) Mav (Cloud, #5 Pittsburgh PR, in two last hit games)
Vs. Jesus
https://youtu.be/lb3N01lm6P8
Also spent 2 hours before the tournament giving the business to cE | Doc in friendlies XD

JTS 20
7th out of 41
http://jts.challonge.com/JTS2017_20
Also 2nd out of 18 in dubs

13th out of 67 at The Cave
http://challonge.com/Cavesingles3

Suncrest Funfest
1st out of 14
https://smash.gg/tournament/suncrest-funfest-8/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/140612
Notable wins: TimKO (Bowser Jr. #10 Pittsburgh PR) Immortal (Bowser, #9 Pittsburgh PR)

9th out of 64 at The Cave
http://challonge.com/CaveSingles4
Wins: Xerom (Ness, former PR) Lemon (MegaMan)
Losses: Promaelia (Palutena, PR) Tengu (Mario)

Kingslayer 4
25th out of 107
https://smash.gg/tournament/kingslayer-4/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/144635
Wins: Hex (Sheik, #8 Pittsburgh PR)
Losses: Cilvanis (Mewtwo, #4 Ohio PR) Ori (Bayonetta)

The Cave (Pre SSC)
http://thecavefairfax.challonge.com/Singles22
13th out of 126
Wins: J Breeze (ZSS, former SC PR) Daybreak (Falco, Cloud #10 Michigan PR) Serynder (Jigglypuff)
Losses: Osiris (Sheik) iModerz (Fox #2 Upstate NY)
 
Last edited:

Jp3

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
21
Location
Fredericton, New Brunswick
SO I'ma try to get on this list, though a lot of videos of myself are pretty old or pretty bad (only city in my region that streams houses the players that I tend to do bad vs) I think I have decent results and have a few videos that can show my highs and lows.

I realize theres things to work on but heres some results from this year, and a few videos.

I'm currently PRd 6th in my Province in Canada (New Brunswick) and am recognized as the best Ganon player in Atlantic Canada BUT on the next PR cycle I'll be somewhere in the 11-9 range.

Hereeee weee goooo...
Too many results in the top 3 - top 8 region to find, but I'll post the highlight ones.

9/47 - Lots of wins like.. Spook (#4-6 PR) 2-0
https://smash.gg/tournament/final-smash/events/wii-u-singles/overview
lost to the player who got 2nd in a close set that I ended with an SD, :(

1/14 - Wins on Mr. J (#12-14 PR) 2-1, PTK (Hidden Boss, just off a 2-0 win on #1 PR) 3-2, Famous (#5-6 PR) 2-0, 3-2.
http://challonge.com/SatUNBM317S4S

1/19
http://challonge.com/MSW33

3/19 - Wins on SJ Ryker (#3-4 PR), 2-0, Robopuppyz (#8-10 PR) 2-1.
http://challonge.com/SJSR10ANIS4

2/9 - Wins on PTK (Hidden Boss???) 2-0, Borlin Mourin (#6-7 PR) 6-0
http://challonge.com/SUNBIYC4

1/20 - Wins on SJ Ryker (#3-4 PR) 3-0, Famous (#5-6 PR) 2-0, Fyore (#3 PR in PEI) 3-2, 3-2.
http://challonge.com/MFE2


I doubt doubles performances are too important but I don't think I've been outside of top 3 in a doubles event in ages.

SOOO Heres a few videos... Really hard to find decent ones, I play the same players a lot in the city that im currently in, and they all like to abuse Ganon pretty bad lol.

https://youtu.be/1Iv7o71eb0g
https://youtu.be/0WeZpOPA7QY
https://youtu.be/mRrOBF-kEzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAEI0bJmzdE

Theres also like 20 videos of me getting rekt by Diddy Kong.


THANKS
 

SSJ1/2

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
24
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
No bracket because they used paper, but I got 3rd/13 with solo Ganon at a local here a couple weeks ago
Posting because I got a notable win on Azilidaz (formerly Leafy), the best pikachu in my subregion.
I also took a game off Keeba (1st place), who's on my subregion's PR and an HM on my state PR iirc.
 
Last edited:

Deotay

Smash Cadet
Joined
Apr 16, 2015
Messages
70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIHupX8jlwA

My first attempt for the tier list. I'm in the discord as well and I have other replays if this isn't good enough.
Bit of advice, don't upload a video where you're playing basically uncontested. We all appreciate absolutely crushing the opponent and landing the disrespect but as far actual performance goes, these kinds of videos offer very little in terms of what we can judge you on.

Success is a similar story for most of us. Failure is where we start to see differences. Show us what happens when you start to bleed.
 

Mabs

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jul 23, 2017
Messages
5
Location
Seattle
NNID
Shdwluigi
Bit of advice, don't upload a video where you're playing basically uncontested. We all appreciate absolutely crushing the opponent and landing the disrespect but as far actual performance goes, these kinds of videos offer very little in terms of what we can judge you on.

Success is a similar story for most of us. Failure is where we start to see differences. Show us what happens when you start to bleed.
Alrighty! I totally understand and that makes sense. I will get on it!
 

SSJ1/2

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
24
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
Here's a tourney vod of me getting boned by a ZSS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_nt0ySLbJY

Went into it with a pretty defeatist attitude, but in retrospect I realize I might have been able to take it if I hadn't.
Reeeaaaaly wasn't sure quite how to deal with ZSS's flip kick offstage; definitely wasn't expecting it to go so far through the SV platform in that one game.
Eventually I just started to fish for ganoncides to get it over with, going back to what I said before
Got a nice fsmash game 2 but it didn't kill because I got the weak hit. Probably could have taken game 2 at least if I had played more patiently, but I (maybe incorrectly) was just thinking the whole time "yup I'm at 90, no way I'm coming back from this."

Kinda sucks that this is the only tourney vod of me out there right now, because I've definitely had better sets, but it is what it is I guess
 
Last edited:

TM 023

Smash Cadet
Joined
Nov 13, 2015
Messages
51
Location
Brazil, AM
3DS FC
2015-1144-0090
Yo, Kowalski here with vods time. I bring some tournament matches that I couldn't submit in the last update, plus some recent [online] matches. There you go:

Crew Battle:
Vs. Le Putin (Bayo) and Alphastorm (Mewtwo): https://youtu.be/yDnRiwcn7A4?t=11m57s

Invitational (something like exhibition matches):
vs Nathan (Roy, Cloud): https://youtu.be/-X0a4HDzPg4?t=1h56m26s

vs nRick (Mario): https://youtu.be/-X0a4HDzPg4?t=1h56m26s

And a most recent one (game 1 wasn't recorded but I won)
Vs. ReNDoM (Rosa): https://youtu.be/s1crI1lORpc


That's it, hopefully I can climb some spots in the B-tier this time.:4ganondorf:
 

PRGN

Smash Cadet
Joined
Oct 23, 2014
Messages
42
Location
Netherlands
3DS FC
1891-1272-1580
NNID
パラゴン
Results / Notable wins
http://imgur.com/a/YU7lp


Replay of the set vs Loading... (the EU wifi champion) where i sent him to losers.

Skill / random vids:
Maybe not as important as results, but I think that these vids can really show you what I'm capable of. I used to be a very popular creative musician:
https://youtu.be/_wjpQG9e9xA
https://m.imgur.com/a/KKzyj


I stopped making music since a few years because of reasons.
Now my creativity has pretty much returned in my Ganon play.

^No need to Bair for this, just aerial footstool^



Some friendlies: (im P1, dark smurfendorf)

Also can you please change the tag to ParagonX9?
Thanks for your time A2
 
Last edited:

LiQui

Smash Rookie
Joined
Aug 29, 2016
Messages
1
Everyone here is posting tournament results while all I have is FG clips and some friendlies; both against great players though. I'll post this just in case you're in the mood to watch. Hope you're entertained!!! I'll start with some GIFS!

GIFS

1. https://gfycat.com/CluelessDigitalDutchsmoushond
2. https://gfycat.com/WavyUntriedGosling

Movement Gifs

Perfect Pivot to the right
https://gfycat.com/VigorousBlueKite
Perfect Pivot to the left
https://gfycat.com/AntiqueArcticEasteuropeanshepherd
Perfect Pivot both directions simultaneously
https://gfycat.com/LightEmbellishedDeermouse
Foxtrot across the stage

https://gfycat.com/CriminalHideousBoa



VIDEOS

1. Increasingly movement-heavy matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vBTxmFG9eE

2. JMiller B03 (Account for EU vs USA Button Delay Pls)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/164098459?t=02h59m08s

3. Meeting Nairo (1st match only pls lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ajgF30JjA

4. Bayo Stream Hunting

https://youtu.be/zn-Zhv5rbZQ?t=3m45s

5. Kirby CrewBattle
https://youtu.be/XNSW6BfkX7U
 
Last edited:

A2ZOMG

Smash Legend
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
12,542
Location
RPV, California
NNID
A2ZOMG
Switch FC
SW 8400 1713 9427
Major announcement:

Effective now, I am retiring from the responsibilities of grading individuals and collecting information on the tier list. I will no longer be active in playing people or assessing videos and tournament results. Since I am still however technically the owner of this thread, I will however be open to community efforts to continue this project and collect information via similar standards I've established.

If you aren't already, you should join Discord here https://discordapp.com/invite/0e7YmZe6BIQWDY12 and try to get acquainted with people like adom, Vermanubis, Gleed, and Abbey Street. The staff at the Ganon discord will be more than happy to assess your skill in my place.



As for the actual update, since this is the last one I'm personally taking responsibility for:

Jp3 is a newcomer to the list and qualifies for A-tier. His ground game needs work (Less Flame Chokes!) but overall he has very solid control over his character, especially when following escapes and air movement, and pretty respectable performances against a region that has fairly decent Ganon matchup experience.

Added YUNGCrusade and TheOldMan to B-tier. YUNGCrusade (NotMoney) has some respectable results and flashy punishes, but I believe his competition sometimes leaves something to be desired. I do hope he produces more for me to look at though. TheOldMan I've only really seen play on stream against Void, and he's pretty hard to grade when Void already makes light work of the Ganon MU thanks to his experience against A tier Vaataji in the matchup.

As for current members, most notably OmegaRaider has been elevated to B-tier. The accuracy of his punishes in general has noticeably improved over time.

Also something I noticed about most of the current B-tiers is a lot of you run into a lot of trouble in the ledge situation. I'm a huge advocate of learning to ledgehop U-air and land on stage, which is often safer than potentially getting regrab punished or stage spiked below the ledge. Other obscure thing that might work in a pinch is ledge jump Up-B against people that insist on shielding next to the ledge.

Also, I should give some special mentions to The Forkies and Litany. Currently the most underappreciated Ganons on this tier list. There is unfortunately a lack of recent footage for me to express the amount of work these players have put into developing their skill, but I did have the privilege of meeting them at EVO.
 

HeavyLobster

Smash Champion
Joined
Jun 7, 2014
Messages
2,074
NNID
HeavyLobster43
Haven't been updated for a while, so I'm gonna post some of my more recent matches.
Got 5th in my pool at Smash Con, haven't been to any other noteworthy tourney recently.
 

TM 023

Smash Cadet
Joined
Nov 13, 2015
Messages
51
Location
Brazil, AM
3DS FC
2015-1144-0090
Yo, Kowalski here with a vod. This is a money match that I had some days ago, and sadly it's all what I have atm. I lost 3-2 to Nathan (Roy), but in this game I implemented new things, like ledgehop dair for two frames and ledge stalling with ganon.

https://youtu.be/FiSkEnN4Dak
 
Last edited:

Litany

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Feb 3, 2016
Messages
143
Location
Ontario, Canada
NNID
Brushfire11
Switch FC
SW-6201-5293-0444
Submitting stuff for S Shin Gototatenks .


This is really the only footage I have as of late and sadly its the ditto though I hope I at least hold off my place for the moment given this
Also Love these games suck and you know it (they almost suck as much as your formatting there).
 
Last edited:

Abbey Street

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Apr 20, 2015
Messages
98
Location
Toronto, ON
3DS FC
4511-0701-9758
NNID
abbeystreet
Why hello there.

In light of A2ZOMG no longer leading the tier list, I've stepped up to help with it in his stead. Which means the tier list is updated today!

Here are the changes to the tier list for September:

:starman:UR Tier:starman: (Undisputed Ruler of Hyrule)
Gungnir (ぐんぐにる)

S Tier (Supreme Sovereigns)
Pon (ぽん)

Vermanubis
Ray_Kalm
GanonTheBeast
busutosu (ぶすとす)
Opana
adom4
Koskinator

A Tier (Ascended Overlords)
Rudori (るどり)
LoveExpert
Rice
Dr. Dorf
MexicanoZaibatsu
The Forkies
BOB (TowerKnight)
Litany
Swoops
Deotay
LiQui
TB|Van

thymeballoon
Meepenator
Paragonx9
SumDumbAss
A2ZOMG
ZuraHollow
MGK
Jp3
rickles

B Tier (Brutal Commanders)
E-serpent
Tsuji
BABOONGA (VROOM99)
YUNGCrusade (NotMoney)
Lord Bahamut
Blobface
Vishera
mgleed
Bizzaro Flame
Xinc
Alter Requiem
Tonnura (とんぬら)
Fricken Chris
i5
DasBoot
Aiakos
Abbey Street

Onua
Daeyrat
Rai
Blockmanz
Makzu
Apostroph (イカゲス)
Arconi
YokonTheSage
randomguy1235
Crusticus
Dr. Flame
TheOldMan
FibreOpticBrick
OmegaRaider
DioGamma
Kowalski
Lythero
Garioshi
Ojwaddler
Kyogokudo
Kaiser​
Bloodynite

C Tier (Chaotic Legions)
GH_0_ST
Naroghin
Sykkamorre
CiDE
Shin Gototatenks
G-****
Hybrid
GanonLord
Bean Lampstand
LifeMushroom
Vulgun
Tokinyo
WaldoFindsYou
Ruff
TheArabSamurai
Heavylobster
8-Bit Vex
twisT
Big O
Scarlet Jile
JorgeM141
kosk is the best (Rocknroll)
davidabeats
ToonWaker
D0ubl3St3p
-VictoriaJustice-
_Magus_
Odeen
the king of murder
JmacAttack

D Tier (Dark Acolytes)
DakotaBonez
Shogger
d.Solid
Scraptor
WILEY

E Tier (Emerging Converts)
Ollonk

Rough Guidelines to Tier Placements

Honorable Mentions Removed due to inactivity (or lack of information):
DLA
Vaataji
jmanup85
Vex Kasrani
Potechi (ポテチ)
Z1GMA
Papaya (ぱぱいや)
Matt Hazard
Gunblade789
EvilGoku
Tonsana
Hi-Hatz
SSBMatt
KongXL
TTTTTsd

Not on the tier list yet:
Eikelmann
Omega Tyrant
| Kailex |
Zhouten
Everyone else from the Ganon tournament and the Matchmaking Thread

New faces:
  • i5 qualifies for B tier. He plays very neutral heavy Ganon that capitalizes on mistakes well but has some glaring problems in disadvantage (too many air wizkicks). Do your best to keep cool in disadvantage - in many cases, you have more options than you realize.
  • BABOONGA, or VROOM99, qualifies as a high B. You had respectable skill in identifying and punishing mistakes in nearly every matchup, even against Sheik. However, there's still a little work to be done when it comes to adapting to opponents who are more versed in the Ganon matchup.
  • Kaiser's Ganon needs further evaluation, but right now will be B tier. Neutral wasn't so hot in many MUs but you had a solid defense.
  • Aiakos is in B with a great punish game, but inconsistent (an issue shared with many mid to upper B tiers). A little bit of more MU knowledge and mental conditioning will go a very long way.
  • Vulgun, formerly Radical Larry, returns to the tier list as C tier. You had an okay neutral and extravagant punishes but tended to panic too much in disadvantage.
  • kosk is the best was found to be around middle of C tier by my fellow evaluators. Seems you're relatively new to Ganon's quirks but you have a lot of potential - keep on keepin' on.
  • Odeen enters the tier list in the low C tier. Punishes were okay but you had a very glaring weakness against shield-camping. Your Ganon will improve a lot once you learn to incorporate more grabs and shield pressure into your game.

Noteworthy changes:
- Van is the only new Worst Ganon this update, and he deserves the honor. Van has some of the most dynamic offense of any Ganon out there and he's able to consistently use it to win brackets. A couple of predictable play patterns are what keeps him from winning more often vs opponents who know how to fight Ganon.
- Lythero, Bloodynite, GH_0_ST and FibreOpticBrick all qualify for B tier. Lythero has demonstrated a neutral and spacing game as well as MU knowledge that is far above the C tier level, while Bloodynite, GH_0_ST and FOB advance to B mostly thanks to good results. All four still have a long way to go, however; the road to power is indeed an arduous one.
- BOB deserves a little more credit as he has incredible skill when it comes to dealing with matchups vs zoners. He has proven this time and again, even on wifi where zoners can really mess Ganon up.
- LiQui has made credible improvements in a number of fundamental areas, and his placing within A tier has changed to reflect said growth.
- Abbey Street's improvement upon his neutral will garner a slight raise in rank. Inconsistency is the main factor in his inability to advance further, however.
- Shin Gototatenks's knowledge of Ganon and application to the game is growing but it's not quite B level yet. Has a ton of potential though.

The next tier list update (and most likely subsequent updates in the future) will be done by Koskinator Koskinator , with help from numerous other Ganon mains. For more information you can talk to him on the Ganon Discord server, but keep updating and posting your results here - shows of force are always welcome within these halls.
 
Last edited:

SSJ1/2

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
24
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
True to abbey's description, have some more inconsistent results :p

- August 19th 2017 – eSports @ CPL Smash4 Tourney (Single Elim.) – 4th/32
Paper bracket, freed up a few people and then got destroyed by a Greninja

- August 22nd 2017 – Insurrection XXXII – 13th/23
https://challonge.com/InsurrectionXXXII
Pretty proud of how I did in this one, even though I went 1-2 lmao; had a great set with Life that I was able to clutch out, and then I ganoncided Colinies game 2. Maybe could have won vs CB, but I was kinda tilted from how I did in ARMS lol

- September 9th 2017 – Arcadian Fury – 65th/93
https://smash.gg/tournament/arcadian-fury/events/wii-u-singles/standings
Only including for completeness' sake (I don't like sugarcoating). No excuses; I played poorly, got right ****ed.


In other words, have some vods from a tiny round robin tourney I went to a while ago. I just remembered these exist. Kinda sandbagged a bit, but this should give a better idea of my gameplay than the others I posted before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsASPPROJfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dijmyHaufP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcapZNXX_Mc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e0Hv2ESDZ8
 
Top