Hierarchies of Power: The Ganon Community Tier List! (Updated October 8th 2017)

Favorite/Best SSB4 Ganon?


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S2G

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(There is a TL; DR at the end)

At the urging of others to gain more recognition and traction, I'm making a semi-formal post with regards to how the tier list is currently being run and how it should be run. I'll begin by saying that this is not aimed at the panelists who judge people based on matches; I'd like to make it extremely clear THE CURRENT PANELISTS ARE FINE. What I want to draw attention to is the way in which the panelists judge people and move them from tier to tier - this is to say that others and myself have A PROBLEM WITH THE METHOD OF EVALUATION. As it is now, it seems to be an extremely free-form sort of evaluation, from the side of being judged (people can't see what goes on in the panel itself). This makes it difficult to pinpoint the points which are deserving of A-tier and those which would be classified as something like C-tier; not only that, but it also makes everything feel extremely subjective with a heavy amount of bias.

Noted, I would like to mention that I have browsed the sorts of comments the panel gives to people; they aren't terrible as they do well to identify some good points about someone's gameplay, but they don't touch on a lot else aside from what sticks out - good and bad. People seem to want more of a feel for where they're at and I don't think the current system offers this. With that said, I would like to propose a new system of evaluation and a set of criteria to help panelists evaluate players in a more comprehensive and meaningful way. It should also be said that while this is a proposal, by no means is it a finished product - constructive input is crucial so that we can build up a system which is generally agreeable reasonable players.


TL;DR - people don't like the way the tier list is being handled (not the panelists). We want change. Here's how we want it to change.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ARBP_lZbWXhW83iOJlxk1Bzcd5n_6w7Fs8yKyr9HYzI/edit?usp=sharing

Comments are welcome.


~2G/辻
 

Onua

Smash Journeyman
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Sorry its been so long since Ive updated! Been putting work in with Ganon tho and I defiantly feel I have overall improved with him as a character.
Anyways here are some notable placings I have gotten recently.

13/46 - Title Bout https://smash.gg/tournament/title-bout-a-smash-4-monthly/events/wii-u-singles/standings
17/73 - Smash at Mizzou https://smash.gg/tournament/smash-at-mizzou-como-returns-feat-esam-mvd-and-more/events

in terms of my big monthlies I have been to.

I do have some recordings of my Ganon tournament play on my youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoa15B06-k20VRgmKCr8A3A/videos?view_as=subscriber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyq71cExIYE this was a streamed set from Title Bout.

Ill update more over the course of this season.
 

Vermanubis

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I've gotten 1st at a few locals, 2nd at the last one, and my last monthly, I don't know what I placed -- didn't look -- but it wasn't very great. Here's the recap of who I beat:

Hellraid x2 -- Sheik, #1 in Tri-cities, WA
Marathon x1 -- Robin, #7 in Idaho
Rooster x1 -- Bayonetta, #8 in Idaho
Versace Sofa x1 -- Falcon, #7 in EWA
Ghosty x2 -- Bayonetta, #2 or #3 in Tri-cities, WA

Money Matches:

Slam Jammington - Mario, $5, #2 in EWA
Ponitoss - Cloud, $5, #6 in EWA
Dr. Robotnik - Yoshi, $5, #9 in EWA
CG - Falcon, $10, formerly #5 in EWA, unranked as of last night due to inactivity
Piff - Bayonetta, $5, #5 in EWA
DGL - Falcon, $5, #6 in Idaho

Most of my losses in the past 3 months have been to a Rosalina named S3npai who's currently #4 in EWA. Other losses include Silentrain, Bayonetta, #1 in Oregon, Focus, Sheik, #? in BC, and Deci, Robin, formerly #1 in EWA until he went inactive for a few months.

Here're some recent matches from said tourneys. To my extreme chagrin, none of the money matches from EWA players were recorded or streamed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1BubNMucYU&t=3s - Losers semis vs. Hellraid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1BubNMucYU&t=3s - $MM vs. Braicario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDn0Bv5pwL8&t=1s - Grand finals vs. S3npai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2RpLPn0hi4| - Grand Finals vs. Hellraid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69wZF3ihAfA&t=3s -- $MM vs. Captain L
 

Litany

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You're in Ganon discord now I assume, but the answer to your second question is yes -- the tier list is open to anyone, just follow the submission rules in order to be evaluated (either post videos of your gameplay against opponents near your skill level, or play an evaluator).
 

SSJ1/2

Smash Rookie
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Cleveland, Ohio
January / early February update:


- January 16th 2018 – Insurrection 40 Singles – 7th/13
http://challonge.com/Insurrection40

- January 26th 2018 – Kent Combo 64 Singles – 13th/24
https://smash.gg/tournament/kent-combo-64-the-sapocalypse/events/smash-4-singles/brackets
I have a vod of me vs Cilvanis (#7 I think in OH) that I'll post when it's up.

Kent Combo 64 Doubles (w/ Drizzle (Link, Zelda)) – 5th/8
https://smash.gg/tournament/kent-combo-64-the-sapocalypse/events/smash-4-dubs/brackets

- February 3rd 2018 – SPIRIT II Singles – 5th/14 (Round Robin pools)
https://smash.gg/tournament/spirit-ii/events/wii-u-singles/overview
 

Onua

Smash Journeyman
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Liberty, Missouri
Here are a few of my results from this season (started at 2/21/18).
*3/5
*3/9
*7/22
*3/7
*4/17
*3/7
*1/36
*2/9
placings

4/17 Win on Wisdom here(3rd in KC)
https://smash.gg/tournament/rock-chalk-jab-lock-28/events

7/22 at a very stacked sopro. Beat Toffee(2nd on the PR but currently number 1 in my region)
https://smashatsoprogaming.challonge.com/S481

First at NakaKon with wins on DrB(1 in springfield), Wisdom(3rd in KC), and PrivateQuantum(HM in KC)
https://smash.gg/tournament/smash-naka-kon/events/wii-u-singles/overview

2/9 with a win on Wisdom(3rd in KC)
https://smashcafekc.challonge.com/SC32118

2/9 with a win on Wisdom(3rd in KC) and Gitty(8 in KC)
https://smashcafekc.challonge.com/SC32818
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/244068819

3/9 with a win on Toffee(2nd on PR but currently number 1 in my region)
https://smashcafekc.challonge.com/SC12818

I should be able to post more footage once vods are put on youtube. My region just sucks at streams so there are almost never streams.
 
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