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Not all DLC echo's will likely be based off DLC characters, so I am not that sure of this. Also, doing this would give more inherent value to Jokers DLC pack than the other 4, which you want to be equal.
We are not entirely sure, so it would be hard to give an answer.
We won't know until the official reveal. If she is a femc, they probably don't have to change anything unless she has a different codename. And even then, Morgana is the only one that says Joker's name I believe
i think they'd sell echoes of existing characters like octoling for something like $2.99, but i don't really see any future echoes of fighters pass characters (if there were any beyond jane) being sold separately - it'd be confusing as hell to market, for one.
Yeah, but it's pretty confusing either way. I also think they might do $1.99 for echo characters, but I am not that knowledgeable about this sorta thing. All I know is that $2.99 feels a little high, considering that is just one dollar less than what we had to pay to get the veteran characters in Smash 4. Also, calculating an echo as worth as much of a single half of a DLC bundle feels off.
Price I had in mind was 1/4 of the cost of a fighter's pass character ($1.49)
If she is to be released after the fact, it'll have to be once the current Fighter Pass is completed, since I imagine that the staff wants to focus on finishing up the 5 uniques that have been planned before the February deadline crops up.
Costumes or even Echos don't really have to take long, depending on how much they want to change. And there's going to be down times here and there, times to work on them now that the main game is finished. You have to remember too that we're talking about scenarios that we dont fully know, but i feel like you starve them for time and resources which isn't necessarily the case. They might already have had a whole plan in place from the get go and are just following it fine, and readjust depending on how things are looking or if there's some things they need to figure out (designing new moves for new characters might take a while and the other developpers and programmers might have to wait for some of that since there aren't as many projects going at the same time.).
I just said that there's potentially defining information coming in just a few days at the concert, and you can disagree if you want but it makes no sense since we're just trying to understand if there's anything to jane in smash. There isn't really anything to disagree with. It's either possible or it isn't, and information can always possibly help get a better sense of things.
Without talk there's no way to share ideas and we can't test any hypothesis if we dont have ideas. I dont know why you have trouble with people just talking about it. It's all just specualtion and we have plenty of that around here. It can be fun.
Yeah but some people are clearly starting to get tired of speculation when things go in circle all the time.
Just jump in the air, press and hold B, tilt the joystick upwards before he fires the next shot, and BOOM! You'll perform that version of the move.
Some of us are interested in stuff like this and there's new stuff to bring up and talk about, not to mention coming in a few days. So it doesn't feel repetitive stagnant to me. If you dont care too much about the topic then you can move on from it, like how there's conversations all the time going on that dont ineterest me so i dont push against it, i let the others talk it out unless it's overly negative. (which sometimes is still worth ignoring)
Right, I'll be off from this thread until at least thursday then. I hope you folks will enjoy what next week's event has in store.
I didn't mean something about quitting a thread, but if that makes it easier on you then sure you can do that too.
Personally, I think Echoes should really be free of charge since if they are making Echoes of characters in the base game (such as Dixie Kong being an Echo of Diddy Kong for example), then I don't see a reason to pay extra.
Even if they're different enough like Chrom or Ken?
They play basically the same. They can end up different competitively because of the small differences, but I wouldn't charge for echoes if they're dlc, just lump them in with the character's price. Or max 1$
Yes.
Ken is probably the most different of them, including in speed. Maybe less unique than Isabelle (debatedly), but if she's considered not an echo they could've done the same with ken.
I dont think it matters but in any case at this point we dont have enough to expect in smash. Just enough to wonder about the possibility.
What do you think?Hey all,
so I was looking up some things around the codenames we've come to know in the datamine, and found some interesting stuff.
Bear in mind that a lot of what I'm going to present are based on connections, so take it very lightly, but it's still pretty fascinating even if there isn't anything there.
We found out that Joker's persona, Arsene, was codenamed Doyle, most likely after the author of Sherlock Holmes, Arthur Conan Doyle.
The author of Arsene Lupin (Maurice Leblanc) has written about sherlock holmes in his own stories, and later had to change the name because doyle pressed him legally in order to have it changed. He changed the name to Herlock Sholmes after that. There was a collection of the stories called Arsène Lupin versus Herlock Sholmes. Both characters are very famous and have been connected in quite a few ways, so that can explain why they chose Doyle for joker's persona, who was inspired by Arsene Lupin.
What's another story that has a thief and a detective? Persona 5. I had been wondering if there was more inspiration from that era onto the other characters in the game, and that's where i found some cool stuff. Now, some of it involves a dark case, and I 'll have to talk about some perona spoilers after it, so read only the rest if you're ok with that and played or watched most of persona 5 (i'll put it in spoilers tho). One big story that was often interlinked with sherlock holmes is Jack the ripper. The first Sherlock Holmes book was written not long before the first case. and while Doyle didn't write about jack, there were theories surrounding him and a friend of his that may have investigated the case. Sherlock also had tons of stories and movies involving it.
Out of the books, there's one author who was also a journalist, Stephen Knight, who wrote about a 'royal' conspiracy behind the attacks, and there were other things and even movies based from those kinds of stories, including "A Study in Terror" and "Murder by Decree" which both had Sherlock Holmes in it and followed the royal conspiracy theory. A later story by someone else was even called Sherlock Holmes and the Royal Flush. I'm not making this up, you can look it up.
And do you know who the last victim was that made the character even more infamous due to 'getting away with it' and never having been caught? Mary Jane Kelly. Of course, she was featured in some of those stories and movies. Now, besides Joker having a knife, there's no direct connection with jack the ripper, but his codename was still jack, and then we find about a Jane, and now a Doyle connected with Arsene. And the thing is, Doyle is supposed to be with the detective side, not with jack, so just like the name change for sherlock in the Arsene works, something's been reversed here too. (Or we could also put the funny idea that instead of it being Leblanc that stole the fictional name, it's Arsene who stole the author's name.)
Now I need to get into persona 5 spoilers to add a bit more
If youve watched or played the game, you know that there's another 'reversal' that happens, where someone who's supposed to be a good person is actually not, and the thieves are actually 'good'. Some of the themes are flipped, which is something cool that can happen in works that use stories that already exist for inspiration. Jack is still pursued by the detective, but it's different, and we dont know much about jane, but she could be another flip of the role being victim to jack somehow, or even one of the detective.
So, you can take it as you will, I'm just sharing it because I think it's interesting and maybe possible those were actually themes that were either inspired in the background for some characters, or flat-out involved in the new p5r game, for one because of the codenames but also because it's called The Royal.
I'm really just putting the ideas there, there might be more to it, or it might just be very loose connections, or not much at all. In any case I hope it's at least enjoyable to think about.
It's a very interesting observation and makes me think even more that Jane wouldn't be thrown to the wayside.What do you think?
The last one with the Miis is making me wheeze holy crud.
He still has a bunch of recycled Ryu animations, his model is an edit of Ryu's, and while he walks/runs faster he doesn't have different weight, air speed, etc.
Yeah, the Mii one is pretty hilarious. I imagine you really liked the first pic, considering your icon and all.
With what was found on the website regarding the dlc section, I think echo dlc could be likely
Right, I kinda forgot about that for a bit. Do you have a link to that post? It would be a great mention for the Jane thread.
P3, P4 and P5 are their most popular mainline games and presented as a trio most of the time.
I think you know by this point what answer this entire thread will give you, so just don't. Please.
