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Heroes, a reason to watch NBC this fall

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It was probably done to show the limitations of her powers. After all, it'd be hard for the body to heal a wound if something is still stuck inside right? Faster healing =/= immortality
 

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She would have built her skin, bone, brain, nerves and everything else around the stick. Plus it was more dramatic for her to "die" and come back in the coroner's room.
That reminds me. Why in the world was her chest cut open, or just removed? Please don't tell me that they couldn't find the cause of death. That didn't really make much sense.

Please note that Rockettrainer posted his reply seconds before mine. I didn't mean to answer an already answered question.
 

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How was she special to them? She was as dead as everyone else is when they have a stick in their brain.
as for the excuse.....I don't want to think about where the chest might be now...fireplace....mantle....urgh...
How does stick in brain give you reason to cut off chest? That makes no sense. I know I just repeated myself but that is very pointless and annoying me now.
 

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How did they know?
I don't recall anybody, besides friend and dad, finding out.
She was a normal teenage girl to them. She wasn't regenerating until after they took the stick out, and by that time she was already chestless. Plus why did the coroner take it out then walk away before she woke up?
 

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I believe her chest was open because she was in a morgue, therefore an autopsy was being done on her. It's standard for a body to receive an autopsy after death even if the cause of death is blatantly obvious. She only started healing when the mortician removed the stick.
 

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After that where did the mortician go? He must have taken it out and run because she started moving almost instantly after it was out.
Also that is kind of wierd.......
morticians have wierd jobs.
 

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Er. . .so no one watched Heroes this week?

I have to say, this week's episode was a bit underwhelming. Niki's power is schizophrenia. . .kind of anticlimactic. The telepathic cop is now out of the picture (and he was a **** good character). And confusingly, the brother politician who thinks that Peter is a "liability" because of his quest to develop his powers is willing to put his entire political career on the line by having sex with a hot chick. What the heck?

The best part though, was future Hiro. Holy cow, future Hiro with black trenchcoat + soulpatch + perfect english + samurai sword is awesome. I'm actually hoping that the nuclear blast occurs, just so we can get future Hiro in action.

And according to future Hiro, Peter's going to get disfigured soon? "You look different without your scar."
 

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I don't think the cop is out of the picture. It's possible he's dead but I don't think he is. The guy who never speaks seems to have the power to subdue other abilities and possibly dive into others minds.

I think he was just "reading" his mind not killing him. It just seems unlikely to me that they would kill a character after only two episodes. But I could be wrong.

edit: Also, we don't know how far FHiro has come. Peter could get disfigure years from now. Or never if Hiro can change the past. But the fact that FHiro exist at all makes it seem like they won't succeed and will live in some kind of post-apocalyptic world. I actually didn't like seeing FHiro show up. Gave me this weird terminator vibe.
 

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Matt (the cop) is most likely still alive, but Mr. Bennet's "friend" does seem to have powers that are extremely potent. His powers do seem to allow him to neutralize Matt's powers, or least offer protection to those he chooses. It should be noted that Matt was able to pick up Claire's name from Mr. Bennet, so Matt's powers were probably still growing before the mysterious guy subdued him.

As for Niki and Peter, I wonder which one of them got taken by Mr. Bennet and his associate. It should be noted that the tattoo on Niki's back is the same symbol the mysterious guy is wearing around his neck. Perhaps a marker for those who have powers?

As for Issac's newest paintings, they show Claire in some sort of danger. Perhaps reprecussions for what she did? Or perhaps she is being chased by the mysterious man or Sylar? His eyes were all freaky.

Poor Hiro, his friend is a complete jerk. But future Hiro is all badass. Considering the future Hiro looks much older than his current appearance, it's probably at least 5 or so years...but what about the supposed explosion that happens that's shown in Issac's paintings? Maybe he'll tell about it?
 

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If you missed it, you guys can watch the full episode at the NBC site. It comes in six parts, but there's a small commercial inbetween each segment.
 

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Finally got to watch it!!! So happy! Can now read and respond.

Matt is probably still alive, like someone said they can't kill him after two episodes. Plus he is on their banner for the show.
How many villains are their now? Syler, Daddy, associate and alter ego (she isn't very nice at least).
Speaking of her what does that shizepenny thing mean? why not just say alter ego?
The guy isn't good. He seems more concerned with the election than his brother, then goes around and gives the people a huge gun against him. Of course that whole thing was setup well.
It looked like she was running from something that was changing, morphing or growing. Weird. Why is Claire so important? I would think it would be the younger brother. I think he has leech like powers, like Rogue only with proximity not touch.
FHiro is awesome!!! Like I said, costumes and watchtower.
If he can just travel back years (now he is getting way too powerful) why not just go to each "hero" and fill them in? If it works out badly he just goes back to before he did it and tells himself not to.
They are going to be a very disfunctional team. Two of them have slept together, one slept with another's ex-girlfreind, one is still a teen and one doesn't speak english(not yet anyway).
Can't wait for Monday.....any minute now.....
In the preview it showed Claire with cuts and bruises. Does that associate just nuetralize all powers?
When did the younger brother ever paint the future?
 

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Er. . .so no one watched Heroes this week?

I have to say, this week's episode was a bit underwhelming. Niki's power is schizophrenia. . .kind of anticlimactic. The telepathic cop is now out of the picture (and he was a **** good character). And confusingly, the brother politician who thinks that Peter is a "liability" because of his quest to develop his powers is willing to put his entire political career on the line by having sex with a hot chick. What the heck?

The best part though, was future Hiro. Holy cow, future Hiro with black trenchcoat + soulpatch + perfect english + samurai sword is awesome. I'm actually hoping that the nuclear blast occurs, just so we can get future Hiro in action.

And according to future Hiro, Peter's going to get disfigured soon? "You look different without your scar."
yeah i seen that. future Hiro=ownage. as a matter of fact, that's about all I seen. heh. I saw the beginning. Freaky in the morgue where that girl was dead then she came back when the stick was pulled outta her head.
 

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I really like the show. It is very interesting so far, and hopefully it will stay that way.

Hiro is pretty awesome. I thought that it was cool when he stopped time and cheated at the roulette table to win some money. That was too funny. I'm still wondering just what Future Hiro has to bring to us. Future Hiro for Brawl! Lol.

The mom's power has me lost as of what she can do with it. I don't see any way of her controlling another side of herself.

About the politician's brother, he thinks that maybe he can only use the powers of other people when they are nearby. Seems like a nice power, but maybe it could have a downfall if he can't control it. For instance when he meets Hiro, he accidentally teleports to the future when the city is destroyed by a huge explosion.

What do you guys think of Mika (The son of the porn star)? I think that he has some sort power that they haven't let us know yet. Guessing by what I have seen so far, he is obviously a genuis.

As for the cop, I really don't hope that he dies. I agree with everyone and I don't think they would kill a hero so early on in the show.

I guess we can't know for sure what is going to go down, but I'm looking forward to the next episode. New episode airs in about 19 hours.
 

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About the politician's brother, he thinks that maybe he can only use the powers of other people when they are nearby.
That's what I thought. Notice how he was able to move while everyone else was frozen in the subway. I know that may just be Hiro's power, but there's a possibility.
I guess we can't know for sure what is going to go down, but I'm looking forward to the next episode. New episode airs in about 19 hours.
Nerd! No, I kid.:laugh:
 

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Nerd! No, I kid.:laugh:
No offense taken.

Lol, I just knew that when I posted that, it was around 1 o clock. I also knew that the new episodes air at 8 o clock on Mondays. So, I just put the 2 together and did some simple math.
 

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I think it's possible that Hiro can stop time to the point where he can do so without it affecting people he doesn't want affected. That way, he can take people with him to help him in such...sort of selective time stopping.
 

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One of my favorite powers has to be Isaac's though. It's an awesome idea to paint the future, but apparently he can't control it. Or maybe he just hasn't figured out a way to make the paintings come true unless he is drugged up on heroine. In the last episode, he said to his ex-girlfriend that he needed money for "painting supplies." He wasn't talking about oils and a canvas. Hahaha.
 

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Who watched the new episode? It was so awesome.

Nathan is so pimp! Not only did he have sex with Niki, but he can fly on command.

Hiro still remains the coolest character though. He looked mighty pimped out with that sword.

I think that they just proved that Peter can only use the powers of the people around him. 1. He was unaffected when Hiro stopped time on the train.
2. He was able to fly when he was around his brother.
3. He was able to paint the future when he was with Isaac.
That is enough proof for me. I believe that he is going to play the biggest role in saving the world because of his "copy" ability. Think of it, he should be able to use Sylar's power as well. It makes me wonder what he is capable of when all of the heroes are together at once.

It seems as though the cop (his name escapes me) has a hard time controlling his power at times. He was really freaking out in the convenient store, but he did save some lives from that crook.

It looks like Claire's power is causing trouble. Lol.
 

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Niki... doe she even have a power? Is her mental state given to her by her husband? Oh, I guess the explosion is garanteed to come from a bomb now. I was hoping for a super ability.
 

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As was said, Peter's power is obviously the ability to use others. I hadn't thought of what he could do if they were all together.Nathan is freakin' awesome. His power is more advanced than I thought it would be.

I'm not sure if Peter can use Sylers power though. In the painting Claire looked pretty dead and Hiro did say they had to save her. Syler's pretty powerful if he can kill her.

The next episode showed Nikki's husband coming through the wall which explains how he got into Brodys room so fast and how he escaped the handcuffs. So he can alter minds and phase through objects.

I really liked tonights episode. It's hard to speculate on what will come next because your not given many clues. I'm not even sure if Claire's dad and his "assosciate" are "bad guys" anymore.

edit: Of course she has a power. Did you see her knock that guy through the wall? If super ninja murder moves weren't considered an ability super strength should be.
 

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Sylar doesn't have to be powerful to kill the cheerleader, the football player did it by accident. Unless it was a permanent death, in which case I'm not sure if that was what the painting depicted.

I am curious about Nikki's husband's powers. Can he really phase through objects like handcuffs, or did he simply trick everyone into thinking he had them on? That would also explain him coming out of the wall. He made Nikki believe he wasn't there when he actually was.

Edit: I'm also starting to suspect Claire's father as being a goodguy.
 

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It seems Mr. Bennet does genuinely care for his daughter, though his intentions for protecting her are more likely for his own best interests. I'm still curious as to what he and his friend did to Matt. Speaking of which, the mysterious man's powers seem to involve both super power supression and the ability to erase memories.

It looks like Peter can copy almost anyone's power, but it appears to happen automatically and requires no trigger (i.e. no heroin).

And the paintings...insane to say the least. Looks like Sylar will be making an appearance agin real soon.
 

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I think he can be considered the "good guy" in that maybe he has good intentions, but in trying to accomplish them he gets too dragged into them and does evil things. I mean, he has his own telepath (who mysteriously listens to everything he says) and so far he has taken in every hero by force.
 

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Nothing too exciting plot-wise, but it was a pretty solid episode all around. Except for that part where Ando met Niki. . .the whole "I watch pr0n and I came from Japan to meet you IRL" was a bit disturbing and unnecessary.

But otherwise. . .wow. I just kept laughing my *** off when Nathan flew away from Claire's dad and the black guy who tried to capture him. Way to completely screw over their capture plans. And he's apparently good at fistfighting too. . .the flight + fight scene has now officially launched Nathan to the "best character" list.

Hooray that Matt (telepathic cop) is still alive, and putting his powers to good use to boot. With his newfound powers, he now has the ability to stop robberies, mend stagnant marriages, and pleasure women, all in the same day. Go Matt.

And the way it looks, Claire's dad may not actually be evil after all. The way he talked to the quarterback about Claire made it sound like he was more accepting and tolerant of superpowers than your average villain would be.

Here's hoping we see more Sylar soon. Probably not next episode, since we have to watch Niki and DL fight.

EDIT: Hmmm. . .are we supposed to be using spoiler tags? If so, then my post has some spoilers in it. >_>
 

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I don't want to get ahead into thinking Mr. Bennet is a good guy or not. Remember that one of the reasons he might be pissed is because Claire is valuable to him, not just as a daughter, but as something else which has to do with her powers.

Now, I'm not too sure what it is he wants with each of them. He took the cop and erased his memories. Okay?

There might be a connection to Sylar, but then again, if there were, the cop would be dead - his head would be sawed off and his brain gone by now. We'll have to wait and see.

I'm surprised no one is discussing what was actually painted by Peter. Look at Claire - her head is sawed off, with blood all over the floor - the same exact image Hiro saw in the future with Isaac.

Now the whole premise of the show is that humans are gaining these powers because of one important organ - the brain. Each "Hero" has these powers because they can indeed use more than 10% of their brainpower. It seems that the only way to kill Claire is to take her brain, which makes perfect sense - now she can't regenerate because her brain isn't connected to her body.

But I wonder what Sylar wants with Heroes' brains. It makes me wonder if he somehow absorbs each power into himself to make him even stronger, kind of like Orochimaru wanting to steal other ninja's jutsu (lol naruto reference). Having Claire's power would make him invincible.
 

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The whole premise of the show is that these changes are genetic, nothing has been said that they use more than %10 of their brain power.

You might be onto something about Syler gaining others abilities. But he was already shot and he simply got back up. Why would he need Claire?
 

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You're right. I probably just assumed this since Mohinder mentioned it in his lecture at the beginning of the first episode:
They say that man uses only a tenth of his brain power. Another percent and we might actually be worthy of God's image - unless, of course, that day has already arrived.
Then he suddenly goes into the human genome project, the special abilities, and about human's true potential.

But doesn't it make sense that these powers come from being able to use more brain power than usual? It ties in with why Sylar is stealing their brains.

As for your second question, Claire ultimately has a much more potent healing ability than any other Hero we've seen so far. If you really had to think about it, a gunshot is nothing but a mere scratch to someone of great power - but Claire's healing ability would render more powerful attacks useless, and decrease downtime from a few days to a few minutes. A person like this can go on for days even in some of the most dangerous situations. If we had to compare it to Wolverine's own healing ability, someone with this power can live longer than the average human - perhaps decades more.

Claire is obviously the most important catalyst in the story:

Save the cheerleader, Save the World.
Hiro pointed her out for a reason, and I truly think it has something to do with her powers. If I'm correct about Sylar stealing powers, then Claire is indeed an important part of the story.

Another crazy theory - Sylar = Peter from the future???

...Nah.
 

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I don't think Sylar gather's others abilities; he stopped bullets and floated away (he floated, didn't he?). To me it seems he has telekinetic powers, not some pastiche of others. Maybe he's just crazy. Whatever happened to just being crazy?

On a side not, Zarona, who is that guy in your signature? That wink haunts me...
 

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For the most part, I agree with WoZ on this. Mohinder did mention that maybe if we were able to use more than 10% of our brain power, then we would grant certain abilities that are not known to man. That does make a lot of sense of why Sylar has the ability to erase or steal people's brains.

We can never know for sure what is going to happen, but I do want to see Niki fight DL.
 

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This show is awesome, I'm waiting for the new Episode. And I agree with anybody saying Hiro is the awesomest lol. He's so cool, he's just like an anime character.
 

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The whole premise of the show is that these changes are genetic, nothing has been said that they use more than %10 of their brain power.

You might be onto something about Syler gaining others abilities. But he was already shot and he simply got back up. Why would he need Claire?
I'm thinking Sylar might just want to absorb everyone's powers so that no one can use their abilities against him. If he really is Patient Zero, then it implies that he already has almost everyone's powers already to some degree. Maybe he eats the brains of his victims to amplify his powers? If Sylar is somehow connected to the nuclear explosion, then Claire would be the only one who safely brave any danger and stop it. Stop Claire and there is no hope.

I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but check out the online comic. It provides interesting backstory and connections between the episodes.
 

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I thought the same thing about Claire being the only one who could live through something deadly and this is the reason they have to save her.

I don't think their powers are tied into the brain because Claire died rendering her brain useless. She came back when the stick was removed ,which tells me that her power is automatic and does not require concious thought. Thus not being related to an increase in brain power.

Crazy theory-Sylar-Peter from future?: I don't think so. If he was FHiro could have killed him and saved them all.

It will definately be interesting to see what happens when Peter meets up with the others. How would he behave around Nikki or the man who works for Claire's father?
 

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I don't think their powers are tied into the brain because Claire died rendering her brain useless. She came back when the stick was removed ,which tells me that her power is automatic and does not require concious thought. Thus not being related to an increase in brain power.
That's not true. The brain is always the last organ to die out. Just because the body isn't functioning anymore doesn't mean her brain still can't function. Death of the body =/= death of the brain. In fact, doctors don't consider patients dead until they know for sure that the brain itself is dead, despite the body being lifeless.

Speaking of which, Conscious thought =/= brain power. There is, after all, subconscious as well, which could in part help in her overall healing ability as well. The brain gives the body natural instincts to survive - you don't control adreneline pumping into your body when you need to run from a predator. Your brain automatically tells your body to do so. For Claire, her healing ability happens to her naturally, but only through the subconscious act of the brain.
 

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This show is freaking sweet, and it just gets better every episode, lo lthis is without a doubt my fav. new show of the year...
Save the cheerleader... Save the wolrd... PWNAGE!
 
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