Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

[DuwangAnon]

I feel the Sword user argument is rediculous.
I mean sure there is a lot but it wouldn't be all that fun if everyone used their fists now would it.
However I wish he would put some different sword fighting styles in Smash they all seem to be European at the moment.
That's why I support Takamaru so much is because the possibility of his unique fighting style, a Japanese fighting style, this is also one of the main reasons I support Shulk, because of all the unique things the Monado can do.

What kind of style of swordplay does Shulk use, exactly? It appears, from the way he holds it, a modified version of kendo. Possibly.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

BTW, can I use that pic on Tumblr?

I don't see why not

 

[SilverSoul24]

I feel the Sword user argument is rediculous.
I mean sure there is a lot but it wouldn't be all that fun if everyone used their fists now would it.
However I wish he would put some different sword fighting styles in Smash they all seem to be European at the moment.
That's why I support Takamaru so much is because the possibility of his unique fighting style, a Japanese fighting style, this is also one of the main reasons I support Shulk, because of all the unique things the Monado can do.

If we got a Takamaru-using Shulk, thrown in with some Monado Arts and Future-Seeing mechanics, we'd be in business.

And imagine Shulk with a Beam Sword. The Force is strong with this one.

 

[Kikkipoptart12]

People who are against Shulk are usually the "too many sword users" people from what I've seen.
And that's dumb since his Monado is a freakin' hybrid lightsaber.

Edit: Sorry for that text wall.[/quote]
Too Ma E Swordz hurr derp derp

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Takamaru-using Shulk.

Not sure I understand that statement?
If you don't know Takamaru is the guy in my Avatar.

What kind of style of swordplay does Shulk use, exactly? It appears, from the way he holds it, a modified version of kendo. Possibly.

I'm not sure it doesn't seem like he has a style haha.
And that's what makes him unique he has his OWN style.

 

[SilverSoul24]

Not sure I understand that statement?
If you don't know Takamaru is the guy in my Avatar.

I'm not sure it doesn't seem like he has a style haha.
And that's what makes him unique he has his OWN style.

My mistake. >.< Tired brain is tired. But, yeah, Shulk is unique enough to warrant his position. Way more unique than Chrom would have been.

 

[Kikkipoptart12]

I feel the Sword user argument is rediculous.
I mean sure there is a lot but it wouldn't be all that fun if everyone used their fists now would it.
However I wish he would put some different sword fighting styles in Smash they all seem to be European at the moment.
That's why I support Takamaru so much is because the possibility of his unique fighting style, a Japanese fighting style, this is also one of the main reasons I support Shulk, because of all the unique things the Monado can do.

To Hell with the sword argument, I can have as many sword people I want! You don't see me saying there too many brawler and gunners in Smash.

 

[Link_enfant]

6/7 sword users, the other 30+ characters use fists/projectiles, people still complain about a new sword user. Why are people stupid ?

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

To be honest, I barely even consider him a sword user. I mean, yeah, the Monado looks like a sword, but it hardly functions like one.

 

[Banjodorf]

I mean, assuming he's in and works like we hope he will, he's going to have a few slashing attacks, but the rest of the time he's going to be firing off buffs and Monado purges.

But I always get pretty pissed at people who for some reason think it's Ok for most characters to kick and punch, and yet somehow it's generic when only 1/5 of the roster (If Shulk gets in, we'll have 10 total sword movesets if we keep MK, which we will.) actually wield swords, two are clones, and Nintendo is a company that loves high fantasy and swords.

Why is it such a ****ing surprise again?

Besides, Smash isn't Soul Calibur, does it really matter what their weapon is? If it's iconic, why shouldn't it be there?

I mean, to add to this, Robin's swordplay vs. Ike's is much more unique than Mario and Bowser's standard moves compared.

Marth/Lucina and Meta Knight play completely differently from eachother, and Pit's swords are more like big daggers. I'm actually find it hard to understand what a "generic swordsman" is in this game, and why Shulk, who's "sword" (It's more like a magitech energy blade) is unlike literally any other in the game, including Robin's goddamn lightning blade, would be the one to do it.

If anything is a "generic swordsman" in this game, it's the Mii Fighter, but they're Miis, it's what they ****in' do.

 

[TTrain]

To be honest, I barely even consider him a sword user. I mean, yeah, the Monado looks like a sword, but it hardly functions like one.

There's more to the Monado than what meets the eye

@ Banjodorf
Ikr? It shouldn't matter what weapon everyone uses. It's their signature weapon.

Mario/Luigi use punches and fireballs, which are iconic.

Link/Toon Link use their sword/shield and their plethora of tools that help them on their journey (Ganon should be using his sword/magic, but nooo, Sakurai seems to like the "semi-clone to Captain Falcon" moveset)

Like stated before. Mostly everyone uses their iconic weapons. It shouldn't matter if it's a sword.

 

[Minato Arisato]

Wait, people have actually been complaining about Shulk because he's "just another swordsman"? Really? Oh man, that's just wrong...

 

[Banjodorf]

Wait, people have actually been complaining about Shulk because he's "just another swordsman"? Really? Oh man, that's just wrong...

It makes you want to slap a *****, it really does. But people are stupid. If it's not the "sword", it's "generic JRPG/anime character" which is just nonsense. Why do there have to be so many ignorant people in this world, that argue without actually knowing what they're talking about?

My philosophy is always "respect an opinion when it's educated", so this kind of thing always extra bugs me.

 

[AlvisCPU]

I think that, apart from people hating on sword users for no good reason, the people against Shulk haven't played Xenoblade. They have no emotional investment in him. For example, I've not played Golden Sun and therefore I'm indifferent to Isaac or Matthew (though based on what I've seen, they'd be cool.)

Us on the other hand, we've all seen his motivations, personality and how he gets around in a fight. He's very likable. So I think they don't *realise* just how different he is. He isn't just running round chopping things (though there is some of that,) the energy beams from his arts along with the Vision system is a HUGE drawcard for him.

It makes you want to slap a *****, it really does. But people are stupid. If it's not the "sword", it's "generic JRPG/anime character" which is just nonsense. Why do there have to be so many ignorant people in this world, that argue without actually knowing what they're talking about?

I know that feeling. I'm paraphrasing, but I once read someone saying Shulk shouldn't be in "because he's from an RPG like Final Fantasy and stuff and characters from RPGs don't fit in Smash Bros."
Well then, depending on your definition of RPG, we're gonna have to kick Earthbound, Fire Emblem, maybe Zelda series, (etc.)...

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I think that, apart from people hating on sword users for no good reason, the people against Shulk haven't played Xenoblade. They have no emotional investment in him. For example, I've not played Golden Sun and therefore I'm indifferent to Isaac or Matthew (though based on what I've seen, they'd be cool.)

Us on the other hand, we've all seen his motivations, personality and how he gets around in a fight. He's very likable. So I think they don't *realise* just how different he is. He isn't just running round chopping things (though there is some of that,) the energy beams from his arts along with the Vision system is a HUGE drawcard for him.


I know that feeling. I'm paraphrasing, but I once read someone saying Shulk shouldn't be in "because he's from an RPG like Final Fantasy and stuff and characters from RPGs don't fit in Smash Bros."
Well then, depending on your definition of RPG, we're gonna have to kick Earthbound, Fire Emblem, maybe Zelda series, (etc.)...

Perfect reasoning on your behalf AlvisCPU. (Not being sarcastic either)

Those are just half ******** quotes from Shulk haters that have no logic to back up their arguments.

P.S. Welcome to Smash Boards!

 

[AlvisCPU]

Perfect reasoning on your behalf AlvisCPU. (Not being sarcastic either)

Those are just half ******** quotes from Shulk haters that have no logic to back up their arguments.

P.S. Welcome to Smash Boards!

Thanks! I'm loving the photoshops here, I think I'll have to learn how.

And I'd like to say on a side-note, when I paraphrased that comment, I wasn't rewording it to make them sound dumb. That was literally the way they structured their argument.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Thanks! I'm loving the photoshops here, I think I'll have to learn how.

And I'd like to say on a side-note, when I paraphrased that comment, I wasn't rewording it to make them sound dumb. That was literally the way they structured their argument.

You remember the dumbest arguments that Shulk detractors have, saying that Shulk isn't a Nintendo First Party character?

Well, show them this:

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=77749675&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch

This is Governmental Documented Proof (provided by the Government Itself) that shows Shulk is a First Party Nintendo Character.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Thanks! I'm loving the photoshops here, I think I'll have to learn how.

And I'd like to say on a side-note, when I paraphrased that comment, I wasn't rewording it to make them sound dumb. That was literally the way they structured their argument.

I've seen a lot of those types of arguments, not only for Shulk, but multiple other characters as well.
See, as a Takamaru supporter I always hear "Oh he's just another sword user" and it pisses me off when people don't have enough sense to research the character.
This is the same with Shulk and Isaac both whom I support either they are "swordsman" or "Genereic RPG character" it really makes me sick.
Glad to see so many people share my opinion on those subjects.
Welcome to SmashBoards by the way.

 

[Makrrrrrr]

Being a sword user is probably the stupidest counter-argument that non-Shulk supporters can give and come up with regards to Shulk being a playable character. Just by look alone can you see that Shulk will stand out among all the other fighters because he has a RED SWORD unlike any others that just look like normal variations of swords. Not to mention that it opens up and releases a laser beam, and it can see the future!

I could understand if they are going to downplay Shulk with reasons such as he is from a new franchise, or a niche genre at that and he is not popular to the general audience of Nintendo. But if the first thing that they will say to downplay Shulk is that because he is a 'swordsman', well their opinion is already invalid, because they have no idea that he is much more than that.

 

[TTrain]

You remember the dumbest arguments that Shulk detractors have, saying that Shulk isn't a Nintendo First Party character?

Well, show them this:

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=77749675&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch

This is Governmental Documented Proof (provided by the Government Itself) that shows Shulk is a First Party Nintendo Character.

^This is very interesting to read.

Hater: *whiny voice* Noooo, you stupid fanboi, Shulk ezent a first pardy chracter

Bronado: Yes he is you whiny *****!

Hater: Prove it you stupid fanboi!

Bronado: *shows them the government document*

Government says so. *****.

 

[Solfiner]

There's more to the Monado than what meets the eye

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I figure if a character is loved enough or would hype people then as long as they have something going for them beyond being a swordsman, it's worth Sakurais effort to make a unique moveset for them.

Of course who can say what Sakurai himself is thinking.

It's Sakurais job to go deeper than most people would, to see the merits of characters beyond their most obvious traits.

 

[Bosspon]

3AM.

Almost nobody on the thread.

Just got back home.

Time to party.

Yeah, let's do this!

I'm so alone

 

[JaidynReiman]

People who are against Shulk are usually the "too many sword users" people from what I've seen.
And that's dumb since his Monado is a freakin' hybrid lightsaber.

Edit: Sorry for that text wall.

Too Ma E Swordz hurr derp derp[/quote]
Too many swords is the stupidest excuse. Its not about "too many swords," its about adding sword users that can do new things. Chrom was skipped by Sakurai because he wouldn't do anything different from Ike and Marth (even if he "could" be unique). I don't know anything about Xenoblade, but I do know Shulk has abilities that would make him stand out.

 

[ZXMechonHunter]

I just typed a paragraph ranting about how stupid I think the "new franchise" argument is, but I just woke up and I can't tell if I sounded stupid or not. So I'll just simply say that argument is stupid.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I just typed a paragraph ranting about how stupid I think the "new franchise" argument is, but I just woke up and I can't tell if I sounded stupid or not. So I'll just simply say that argument is stupid.

I've brought it up in the past as the possibility that, because its new, it might not get as high of a priority as people are thinking. But I certainly don't think it denies entrance to a Xenoblade rep at all.

 

[Reila]

People who are against Shulk are usually the "too many sword users" people from what I've seen.
And that's dumb since his Monado is a freakin' hybrid lightsaber.

There can never be enough swords

 

[Random name is random]

Anyone want to do a Zanxus? (xanxus from the anime katekyo hitman reborn)

 

[Deleted member]

So I'm back guys.

Does everyone stopped to do weird memes due to the craziness caused by Gematsu's annihilation ?


In my side, I think I'll replay Xenoblade in order to feed hype even better.

 

[foolssigma]

I just finished another run of Xenoblade and jumped back into FE Awakening to fuel my Robin hype. Does anyone have some suggestions for games to play in the future that are similar to Xenoblade? I know of some, but it is always nice to hear other people's opinions and create a log of games to play if I need a new one.

 

[Reila]

I just finished another run of Xenoblade and jumped back into FE Awakening to fuel my Robin hype. Does anyone have some suggestions for games to play in the future that are similar to Xenoblade? I know of some, but it is always nice to hear other people's opinions and create a log of games to play if I need a new one.

Final Fantasy 12 is similar or so they say (I never finished it).

 

[Creo]

I just finished another run of Xenoblade and jumped back into FE Awakening to fuel my Robin hype. Does anyone have some suggestions for games to play in the future that are similar to Xenoblade? I know of some, but it is always nice to hear other people's opinions and create a log of games to play if I need a new one.

You can't go wrong with the Xenogears and Xenosaga games, if you haven't already played through those (PS1 and PS2). The current team at Monolith Soft was behind those in their Square days, and Xenoblade Chronicles (as well as Xenoblade Chronicles X) definitely has its roots coming from those titles.

 

[ZXMechonHunter]

Final Fantasy 12 is similar or so they say (I never finished it).

I only ever played the demo disc that came with Dragon Quest 8, and it does play a bit like Xenoblade, albeit a bit more clunky.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I remember reading a comment on another site once that said Shulk shouldn't be playable because he doesn't look like a Nintendo character.

Yes really.

 

[ToonAdri]

I think shulk is a secret character,and maybe he is reveladed in august.

 

[AlvisCPU]

You remember the dumbest arguments that Shulk detractors have, saying that Shulk isn't a Nintendo First Party character?

Well, show them this:

[link]

This is Governmental Documented Proof (provided by the Government Itself) that shows Shulk is a First Party Nintendo Character.

Wow, you don't mess around! I'm totally going to post this the next time I see it.

I just finished another run of Xenoblade and jumped back into FE Awakening to fuel my Robin hype. Does anyone have some suggestions for games to play in the future that are similar to Xenoblade? I know of some, but it is always nice to hear other people's opinions and create a log of games to play if I need a new one.

I've not played the other Xeno[games] unfortunately, but Xenoblade's a spiritual successor to those, so that'd be a good place to start. I can enlighten a little more on Relia's Final Fantasy XII comment; the battle style is similar. Battle is auto-attacks, enemies free-roam, "flee" is literally running away. If you think of auto-attacks as having a "charge time" between subsequent attacks, you'll be pretty close to what this is. All your special attacks just have longer charge time but maybe with an MP Cost. I stopped playing at 200+ hours with almost 100% (bosses, anyway. Omega Mk. XII slaughtered me and Yiazmat is the endurance battle of the century.) Story could use some work and it's not as polished as Xenoblade, but there's a LOT of content.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I'm upset we don't have a pic of Shulk using Takamaru as a weapon yet. This thread is letting me down.

 

[foolssigma]

Thanks guys. As much as I love Xenoblade, I haven't played earlier Xeno titles and will definitely give those a look. I hate to admit this, but I've never played a final fantasy game before although I have watched some lets plays. I'm planning on playing 7 and 4 at some point though since everyone raves about those. I've also been meaning to play a Tales game but for whatever reason I never do.

Shulk looks like a Nintendo character.... Never heard that one before.

I still think Shulk will be revealed next month since as far as I can tell, he is the most popular newcomer choice for Japan and a great way to build additional hype leading into the 3ds launch.

 

[Kevandre]

I'm by no means meaning anything by this and I know absolutely nothing about Shulk or Xenoblade (Except for ROBOTS), but for whatever reason I feel like Robin's reveal hurts Shulk's chances somehow. Maybe it's the slight visual similarity. Maybe it's the Gematsu thing.

I do feel like we probably should have seen him already though. A rep from a new franchise being in the game, usually one of the first shown off. But we're talking about Sakurai so I dunno he probably has like kumquats playable instead

 

[Reila]

Shulk's design is far different from male Robin's, though. The major similarity is the color of the hair.