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Data Happy Feet - Falco Video Thread

Metamoonstar

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I think a less cool down time def not auto cancel laser. (Even though I do pretty good with laser as it is) It would help a lot.

I just Uploaded a Falco combo video. It shouldn't disappoint lol. "Truth or Dair"
Hope everyone takes a peak, put a lot of work into it.
That was pretty good. I know it wasn't the focus of the video, but i really liked that song hahaha.
 

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I think a less cool down time def not auto cancel laser. (Even though I do pretty good with laser as it is) It would help a lot.

I just Uploaded a Falco combo video. It shouldn't disappoint lol. "Truth or Dair"
Hope everyone takes a peak, put a lot of work into it.
Nice video, you do really well with the lasers when ppl are offstage, but onstage they cant be used very effectively to zone ppl, some character even if they get hit by the laser they can just run a dashatack or grab you before the animation ends, the blaster is too dam slow!

P.S.: that side B spike on C. Falcon was epic!
 

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Nice video, you do really well with the lasers when ppl are offstage, but onstage they cant be used very effectively to zone ppl, some character even if they get hit by the laser they can just run a dashatack or grab you before the animation ends, the blaster is too dam slow!

P.S.: that side B spike on C. Falcon was epic!
Thanks! I typically use lasers in neutral if the other char is spamming, especially link, or for glory links lol it does need a slight buff, either start up or cool down.
 

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I have no idea who these are, but the perfect pivots from the Falco player was crisp; Falco vs. Shulk: https://youtu.be/Bh-nHbR2s38.

Kato's Falco vs. Hurl's Captain Falcon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoHZUHOX5o. Not much to say, but I would like more Falco players to use RAR Bairs... That might go with most characters, though, since RAR Bairs are awesome on characters like Dr. Mario, Luigi, Link, Toon Link, Ike, DK, Falco, Fox, Captain Falcon, and Marth and Lucina. I think you can frame trap using Bair to Fair with Marth and Lucina since they turn around and Bair has little end lag.

Commentators are bad to say the least, but whatever. Nedd's Falco vs. Styphony's Lucina and ZSS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Mt8qCZe74.

IceArrow's Falco vs. LordXaiver's Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z3E6hSoikc.

IceArrow vs. Craftis's Sonic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O4y6nNfNyE.

Domino's Falco vs. GameProdigy's Rosalina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Z63Tj_n2A. Might want to check the Rosalina MU discussion and learn more about this MU since this is probably Falco's most difficult MU. Reflector Void does knock Luma out and cause it to tumble, but the end lag won't let you act until frame 65. If you want to use it, you better hit Rosalina and Luma or somehow get Luma really far from Rosalina before using it. Side Smash also works, but it's slow. I bet Bair would work, but how Falco will land a small hitbox like that on a small hurtbox depends. Dash Attack probably works, but Falco's slow, so there's that. Dtilt and Down Smash would work if they could hit Luma while Ftilt might not. Not sure about Utilt, Nair, and Uair or the safety of Up Smash, Fair, and Dair. In this MU with any character, decide whether you're going after Luma or not. If you want to go after Luma before Rosalina, then do so. If you're going strictly against Rosalina, then focus on her. Don't hesitate.

And I think friendlies between Elle's Falco and Aww8badges's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TexZJOBjuHQ.
 

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Domino's Falco vs. GameProdigy's Rosalina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Z63Tj_n2A. Might want to check the Rosalina MU discussion and learn more about this MU since this is probably Falco's most difficult MU. Reflector Void does knock Luma out and cause it to tumble, but the end lag won't let you act until frame 65. If you want to use it, you better hit Rosalina and Luma or somehow get Luma really far from Rosalina before using it. Side Smash also works, but it's slow. I bet Bair would work, but how Falco will land a small hitbox like that on a small hurtbox depends. Dash Attack probably works, but Falco's slow, so there's that. Dtilt and Down Smash would work if they could hit Luma while Ftilt might not. Not sure about Utilt, Nair, and Uair or the safety of Up Smash, Fair, and Dair. In this MU with any character, decide whether you're going after Luma or not. If you want to go after Luma before Rosalina, then do so. If you're going strictly against Rosalina, then focus on her. Don't hesitate.
This might be the wrong place for this but I'm also discussing the match in the video somewhat. It seemed to me like Domino wasn't sure on what kills the Luma or what options to go for when trying to cover both. I think one of the worst thigs against Rosa is to try and maintain a hit box out as she can easily just wait you out and punish. I also feel like Falco is a character that needs to kill Luma as it will just get in the way most of the time and could turn a follow up attempt into a death on Falco.

When it comes to Void Reflector the thing that I like do do with it the most is use it on reaction to Rosa trying to just Jab with Luma to gain space or force you out. From the right position it will hit both and either knock Luma off stage or put it on the ground where a dash attack can just carry it off or further away. Also Void is a good tactic for Rosas who like to air dodge a lot as you can condition them that it's a safe option to avoid a follow up from Up Throw for example and just wait for them to air dodge and kick the Reflector as soon as they disappear and it should kill them fairly easily near the top given her weight. Something I didn't know until watching this match is that the custom star bit can actually be reflected. I just assumed that becuase of the normal ones it couldn't but I'll have to keep that in mind for a Rosa who just tried to depend on that over jabbing for space.

When it comes to moves that kill Luma, I think Falco is one of the best honestly. Dash Attack is amazing for killing Luma as it launches them up and away so Luma has to fall to a surface before it can act. Once I get them separated Dash Attack is my go to move either kill Luma or push it away to follow up with something else. Also Falco's Nair and Fair are good tools for follow ups in this MU because if you aim for the Luma and Rosa air dodges the Luma will extend the hit boxes which will make it so you can hit Rosa as she reappears. Another thing that I will do is F-Smash on the Luma with Rosa behind it to extend the hit box and potentially catch her trying to act too fast OoS.

Besides his attacks, his throws are amazing at either disrupting or out right killing the Luma. Down Throw is good if your decently close to the Ledge and the Luma is in front and close to you. Back Throw is good if your back is at the Ledge and Luma is behind you as it will catch it at more range then the others. Forward Throw is really good if Luma is in front of you but not close enough for Down as Rosa will hit it and knock it off. However, Up Throw is only good at disrupting the Luma and putting Rosa above you which could give you time for a Dash Attack or F-Smash to kill the Luma.

I think it's also alright to switch up targets depending in the situation. Like if you condition the Rosa that you just want to kill Luma and then go and chase her for a follow up it might catch her off guard. But yeah you cannot hesitate on which target you are going for as you can likely just miss both. And I say this as a person who got 2nd yesterday to a Rosa where I basically through away my chance to reset the bracket on hesitations, missing opportunities to kill Luma, or not capitalizing enough when Luma was dead. But imo I think Falco is one of the better character for dealing with Rosa.
 

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I have a feeling that Falco's multi-hit moves, Utilt, Up Smash, Nair, and Fair will all be assets against Ryu. Ryu not being overwhelmingly fast like Roy or having a lot of disjoints like... all the current DLC characters, but Ryu. Does help that Ryu, like Sheik, require a strong understanding him, other characters, and skill to use Ryu competently. So, Ryu and Falco will probably end up slugging it out against each other unlike say, against Captain Falcon where Falco has to deal with his speed or Shulk and dealing with range. Just a good old fashioned brawl between Ryu and Falco.

So, friendlies between Codeman's Falco and K-Hero's Ryu: Round 1 and Round 2. Codeman likes using B-reverse lasers it seems.
 

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Beans's Dr. Mario and Falco vs. Heavy's Ganondorf (Winners Bracket): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7DI1BJISo. Now I'm imaging Ganondorf with a Russian accent... In Soviet Gerudo, Ganondorf reads you. The Ganoncide mindgame in the second round was hilarious. Also, what are these Fire Birds? Beans's Fire Bird usage is wacky.

Beans's Falco vs. Samr's ZSS (Winners Semis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJNUvWOhgo. Less lasers; even one laser is dangerous when ZSS's Flip Jump is a ridiculous get out of jail card no to mention her raw mobility... Seriously, why is she fast in the air, the ground, and why does she have the third highest jump in the game excluding Monado Art? Hell, she even hits pretty fast compared to Greninja... DK running speed for Falco, please. Come on, Falco only has vertical "speed" and Luigi has a good projectile, so why not make Falco as fast as DK? :p

Beans vs. Heavy's Charizard (Loser Semis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CMVape4tA.

Beans's Falco and Villager vs. An's Samus and Zelda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxkM_FO92HI. Could have finished that round against An's Samus had he not Falco Phantasm too close to the ledge.

Beans vs. Samr (Losers Finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdAkJm5Kcc. Seriously, less lasers, jaysus. If we had Fox's Blaster end lag, sure, maybe 2 lasers would be safe. His Fire Bird usage, especially for recovering makes me feel like it might be a safer option since Falco Phantasm doesn't have a hitbox on Falco... Then again, Fox and Falco players have been reliant on Fox Illusion and Falco Phantasm and too predictable with their recoveries. Brawl Falco's Phantasm had lower startup and I think it traveled as fast as Falco Phase while Fox's I'm not sure, but it might have been "stronger" or a safer option in Brawl than in Smash 4. Really need to use those Melee angle recoveries with Fox and Falco instead of autopiloting with Illusion and Phantasm.

Beans's Falco, Captain Falcon, and Kirby vs. Smash G0D's Falco, Rosalina, and Kirby (Grand Finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PwlyyjHtAE. Falco and Kirby dittos in grand finals! One thing that Smash G0D does that I wished more players should do with Falco: RAR Bair more, especially with D-throw followups. The players that do this often is Ally who doesn't even main Falco, ZeRo who also doesn't main Falco, TKBreezy who once again, does not main Falco, SmashG0D who probably doesn't main Falco, and Cyro.
 

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My falco vs Max Ketchum's Falcon (Winners finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ1PKMzX7W8

I feel that my biggest mistakes in this match were just a lot of input errors. A lot of times I would've had the kill but I used bair too early and only got the sourspot.

Also as falco does anyone know how I'm supposed to DI falcon's dthrow? I've noticed that ding down at early percents sometimes works because of how fast he falls, but I've noticed at higher percents that if I do that I end up getting combo'd hard by a nair to something else.
 

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My falco vs Max Ketchum's Falcon (Winners finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ1PKMzX7W8

I feel that my biggest mistakes in this match were just a lot of input errors. A lot of times I would've had the kill but I used bair too early and only got the sourspot.

Also as falco does anyone know how I'm supposed to DI falcon's dthrow? I've noticed that ding down at early percents sometimes works because of how fast he falls, but I've noticed at higher percents that if I do that I end up getting combo'd hard by a nair to something else.
Bair's clean hit only has 2 active frames which isn't a lot compared to say, Captain Falcon's Uair which has 7 active frames? Captain Falcon's Uair is frame 6-12 if I remember correctly. Anyway, Falco's Bair's clean hit is from frames 4-5 and the sour-spot is 6-11. In a way, it's like jab, but with the power of a Smash. This makes it a really strong punish, but you have to be really precise. Maybe a future patch can give it 1 more active frame like his Dair. :awesome:

As for Captain Falcon's D-throw, I don't really know since I'm on a hiatus until I have a Wii U. BltzZ, Cyro, and Gamegenie might know. I'm going to assume DI'ing away from him doesn't do much when he can sprint towards you, but that might not be a problem if you're near the ledge while DI'ing towards him could allow him to setup a Uair. Maybe above him or downwards?

The rest of your matches were uploaded as well; Eshura's Falco and Pit vs. TOJoe's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMASsSMrx1A.

Eshura's Falco and Lucina vs. Max Ketchum (Grand Finals Set 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0ByO_1toE. Any reason why Lucina instead of Pit or whoever against Captain Falcon or was it just the usual switch to a different character?

Eshura's Falco vs. Max Ketchum (GF Set 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8NiFIb5mDo. 4 Falco Phantasm spikes and 3 of them killed and a Dair spike. That's 5 kills using spikes. This ain't Melee, this ain't Brawl, and this ain't PM! What the hell is going on!? :laugh:
 

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Bair's clean hit only has 2 active frames which isn't a lot compared to say, Captain Falcon's Uair which has 7 active frames? Captain Falcon's Uair is frame 6-12 if I remember correctly. Anyway, Falco's Bair's clean hit is from frames 4-5 and the sour-spot is 6-11. In a way, it's like jab, but with the power of a Smash. This makes it a really strong punish, but you have to be really precise. Maybe a future patch can give it 1 more active frame like his Dair. :awesome:

As for Captain Falcon's D-throw, I don't really know since I'm on a hiatus until I have a Wii U. BltzZ, Cyro, and Gamegenie might know. I'm going to assume DI'ing away from him doesn't do much when he can sprint towards you, but that might not be a problem if you're near the ledge while DI'ing towards him could allow him to setup a Uair. Maybe above him or downwards?

The rest of your matches were uploaded as well; Eshura's Falco and Pit vs. TOJoe's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMASsSMrx1A.

Eshura's Falco and Lucina vs. Max Ketchum (Grand Finals Set 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0ByO_1toE. Any reason why Lucina instead of Pit or whoever against Captain Falcon or was it just the usual switch to a different character?

Eshura's Falco vs. Max Ketchum (GF Set 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8NiFIb5mDo. 4 Falco Phantasm spikes and 3 of them killed and a Dair spike. That's 5 kills using spikes. This ain't Melee, this ain't Brawl, and this ain't PM! What the hell is going on!? :laugh:

wow only 2 frames? Explains why I miss it so often.

As for the lucina switch, I just wanted to try it out since it was grands and I had two sets to beat him (it's only a 1 dollar entry weekly, so what's to lose?). Lucina was my sole main for the first 4 or 5 months that the game was out , and I've always enjoyed using her in the falcon matchup because they both juggle each other so hard, and lucina has them gimps. I've played quite a few game with max in friendlies and my lucina would go *roughly* 50/50 with him, so I figured it was worth trying.
 

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Is it just me or all the Falco's in California, East coast or Texas man I need to hit up one of you guys in person to grind with soon.
 

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@Rizen is this you? Procyon's Falco vs. Rizen's Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsMCbOMdMUw.

Online friendlies of sWiTcHeRoO's Falco vs. Xanthan's Shulk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKDImSVJ6TM.

Smash or Die Young #6's stuff is getting uploaded. Haven't watched any of it, but I'll have my thoughts later - just have something on my mind right now. Larry Lurr's Falco vs. Cruncho's Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc5y9Ppxquo.

Cyro's Falco vs. Angbad's Diddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ5CKRDh5nU.
 

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Larry and Cyro's Falco are inspirational lol. #LowTierHeroes
 
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Larry and Cyro's Falco are inspirational lol. #LowTierHeroes
Since there's still some more uploads, I really want to see Cyro's match against VoiD, so I hope it gets uploaded if it was on stream. Apparently Zigsta mains Bowser, so I guess all those matches against Xadrin paid off, huh, Cyro? :p
 

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Since there's still some more uploads, I really want to see Cyro's match against VoiD, so I hope it gets uploaded if it was on stream. Apparently Zigsta mains Bowser, so I guess all those matches against Xadrin paid off, huh, Cyro? :p
My set vs. VoiD wasn't streamed, unfortunately.
And yes! I was actually talking to Xadrin about that, haha.
 

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Thought I'd share some of the replays I found in my Wii U:

Falco ditto vs Domino:

Smash Ladder vs Falcon:

Let me know what you guys think, I'd appreciate it
 

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Apparently Boss still plays Falco from time to time. He pulls out Falco in the 2nd match of Anvil Smash #8's grand finals, but doesn't do too well. Still, if you want to see Boss's Falco and how Falco kind of works against a Pit, go ahead; Boss's Luigi and Falco vs. BrianYDG's Jigglypuff and Pit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BonPC65S3aU.

Cyro's Falco vs. hcfwesker's Pac-Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr40KThrL3c.

Domin0's Falco vs. Lex's Little Mac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLgQryhjJE8. Yeah, Falco Phantasm not having a complete hitbox is really shows in this MU. Aiming for the ledge or making sure your opponent can't follow is what Falco needs to do. I wonder if Fire Bird can work better against Little Mac if you intend to land onto the stage?

Eshura's Falco vs. Fezz's Captain Falcon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkD9ihqG4I. Game audio's desynced.

Eshura's Falco and Pit vs. SSB100's Random (Losers Finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbQ2bJNif8o.

I don't know what weeklies these are or who the The Zen Room's supposed to be, but some Falco gameplay; Rstevoa's Falco vs. HTLR's Luigi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdskcw_adM. The anti-climatic B-throw from Luigi... Luigi seems all right so long as you don't go ham which Falco can't really do well. Playing patiently works for Falco considering how fast and hard he hits. Trapping Luigi in Nairs and Fairs might be better than trying for Bair walls since people can't act out of those moves unlike rapid jabs.

Rstevoa vs. Fuzyll's Yoshi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjLlW7HWBGs. Yoshi's Up Smash covers an entire platform. Yeesh...

P·PW's Falco vs. Alan's Marth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-2iLPzlSI. Good usage of Up Smash to catch Marth's ledge getup option at 1:00. A2ZOMG's mentioned that before and BltzZ mentioned using Utilt to do that instead.

Edit: Part 4 of Muru's Falco vs. Baselarde's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Otjg3QhA3A. It's kind of one-sided... I think Baselarde was having a bad day or decided to goof off for these matches.
 
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I've barely recorded any matches this month, gonna play a bunch of offline and for glories and see what footage I can scrape together. TBH collecting amiibos have been occupying my time. It all started with finding a Ness at gamestop when they were supposedly unicorn status. My friend flipped out I said eh whatever, he then told me about how rare the earlier ones such as Lucario Fox Captain Falcon etc have gotten and how much people pay for them.

The fox one bothered me I remember back in December fox was everywhere I didn't think anything of it and bought one and opened it, used him a bit and said i cant wait for falco. Soon it got out of hand lol thanks to craigslist I've been able to get my hands on Ike, Fox, Lucina, Pit Meta Knight, Jigglypuff, Greninja, Lucario, Shulk, Rosalina, 2 Ness's, Megaman etc all within the last 2 weeks. Getting my hands on a Wii Fit Trainer tomorrow, I CANT STOP! lol I really need Marth, Robin, Cpt Falcon Villager and Falco (december), then I'll feel at ease.

Edit: Some offine friendlies
Falco(BltzZ) Vs Mewtwo/Lucario(Ghost): https://youtu.be/Ih5mqmuPhcE
 
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reflex played some inspiring falco matches this past weekend i'll link em here if he doesn't when the videos are uploaded.
 

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This was the online tournament with Dabuz; Cyro's Falco vs. Raffi-X's ROB and Pit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEK2JbZYbQg. The Gyro stage spike was hilarious. Jab edgeguards? Okay, that should be looked into. I hear Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance music. Also, did you really beat Keitaro in dittos at EVO? :p

Cyro's Falco vs. FullMoon's Greninja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZuC1i4-bc. FullMoon's a member here, but he lives in Brazil. I'm not sure how everyone's connection is, but hit him up if you want to learn about Greninja and Lucas. Cyro, you could have survived that Hydro Pump kill in the 2nd round if you went left or diagonally down instead of up, but that would take some serious quick reaction. It doesn't help that Falco's Fire Bird leaves him moving extremely slow after it...

I'm going to assume either Cyro vs. Ven's match hasn't been uploaded yet or it's not going to be uploaded which is kind of a shame since you don't see a lot of Falco vs. Zelda or, well, Zelda much at all. It might be on twitch, though, but I don't know. Challonge link: http://challonge.com/BLGS4_11.
 

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This was the online tournament with Dabuz; Cyro's Falco vs. Raffi-X's ROB and Pit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEK2JbZYbQg. The Gyro stage spike was hilarious. Jab edgeguards? Okay, that should be looked into. I hear Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance music. Also, did you really beat Keitaro in dittos at EVO? :p

Cyro's Falco vs. FullMoon's Greninja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZuC1i4-bc. FullMoon's a member here, but he lives in Brazil. I'm not sure how everyone's connection is, but hit him up if you want to learn about Greninja and Lucas. Cyro, you could have survived that Hydro Pump kill in the 2nd round if you went left or diagonally down instead of up, but that would take some serious quick reaction. It doesn't help that Falco's Fire Bird leaves him moving extremely slow after it...

I'm going to assume either Cyro vs. Ven's match hasn't been uploaded yet or it's not going to be uploaded which is kind of a shame since you don't see a lot of Falco vs. Zelda or, well, Zelda much at all. It might be on twitch, though, but I don't know. Challonge link: http://challonge.com/BLGS4_11.
Haha, and yeah I did. My friend told me he gave me a shout out on his stream which is pretty cool!
I also played FOW in a first to 5 ditto set on his stream. They were pretty close, it went to game 9 and he beat me 5-4 (We both played a little weird) :p

FullMoon is definitely a great player, but I believe the input lag was messing with both of our play. I tried to angle the Fire Bird towards the stage, but it didn't register.

My set vs. Ven wasn't streamed, unfortunately. Loser's bracket doesn't get screen time except the finals and semi-finals.
 

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Little bit more of me, this is around my best playing about a week ago, at the least.
What do I need to do diffrent? Beucase I really can't tell what I did wrong. But I still failed.
Well I agree that you played pretty well. But give DK an inch and he'll take a mile with his damage output and knockback, especially with customs. All it takes is few critical mistakes to lose a stock to DK, really. So focus on minimizing them, especially at kill percents.
One thing you didn't do well at all though was edgeguard. Raul recovered onto the stage for free way too many times. Custom DK may be hard to edgeguard, but you can at least read his ledge option (which was jump like 90 percent of the time) and punish accordingly (in this case, bair).
 

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This was the online tournament with Dabuz; Cyro's Falco vs. Raffi-X's ROB and Pit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEK2JbZYbQg. The Gyro stage spike was hilarious. Jab edgeguards? Okay, that should be looked into. I hear Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance music. Also, did you really beat Keitaro in dittos at EVO? :p

Cyro's Falco vs. FullMoon's Greninja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZuC1i4-bc. FullMoon's a member here, but he lives in Brazil. I'm not sure how everyone's connection is, but hit him up if you want to learn about Greninja and Lucas. Cyro, you could have survived that Hydro Pump kill in the 2nd round if you went left or diagonally down instead of up, but that would take some serious quick reaction. It doesn't help that Falco's Fire Bird leaves him moving extremely slow after it...

I'm going to assume either Cyro vs. Ven's match hasn't been uploaded yet or it's not going to be uploaded which is kind of a shame since you don't see a lot of Falco vs. Zelda or, well, Zelda much at all. It might be on twitch, though, but I don't know. Challonge link: http://challonge.com/BLGS4_11.
I love 3 stock matches. You really see players adapt and change styles and the ability to comeback. Nice uses of up tilts and rar bairs by @ Cyro Cyro
 

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I have no idea who these are, but the perfect pivots from the Falco player was crisp; Falco vs. Shulk: https://youtu.be/Bh-nHbR2s38.
Don't know these japanese players but their patience is pretty inspiring- I watch boxing regularly and the pacing felt that way as opposed to the normally "rushed" tempo of a typical smash match.

Not sure if this has been noted elsewhere but I just checked the frame data and found something interesting:



Falco has the smallest difference between running and walking speeds in the game.
 

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Don't know these japanese players but their patience is pretty inspiring- I watch boxing regularly and the pacing felt that way as opposed to the normally "rushed" tempo of a typical smash match.

Not sure if this has been noted elsewhere but I just checked the frame data and found something interesting:



Falco has the smallest difference between running and walking speeds in the game.
This is a consistent thing for Falco since Melee where some people thought his walk might actually be faster then his run.
 

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Don't know these japanese players but their patience is pretty inspiring- I watch boxing regularly and the pacing felt that way as opposed to the normally "rushed" tempo of a typical smash match.

Not sure if this has been noted elsewhere but I just checked the frame data and found something interesting:

Falco has the smallest difference between running and walking speeds in the game.
wait is short hop u -air auto cancel or something?
 

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This is a consistent thing for Falco since Melee where some people thought his walk might actually be faster then his run.
Though in melee his slew of options made walking a more niche choice, wavedash covered practically both ends of the spectrum there and SHL was just godly
 

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wait is short hop u -air auto cancel or something?
It has lower landing lagg than nair, its really good to start combos and score a upair to bair kill. Its not safe on block but if you cross up your opponent with it then he will have a hard time punishing it since it has low landing lag.

This is a consistent thing for Falco since Melee where some people thought his walk might actually be faster then his run.
This is actually verry good to know, now im thinking of using walking a lot more, this will allows Falco to throw any moves faster.
 
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Gasp I got some recorded footage of my Falco from a Tuesday Local that I go to from time to time and we just got our new stream up. I got 5th outta 32 people could did better in a winners match that i lost but choked oh well.

http://challonge.com/farewelljarell

Well anyhow here's the vid.

The match ends around the 10 minute mark and then another recorded match happen which got mixed with this footage.

EDIT: There was a duplicate of the vid so had to repost it after the first one got deleted.
 
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Now that you can upload matches to Youtube I'm gonna start posting here more.
 

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Rice's Falco vs. 1Up's Luigi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdlzF92jZtw. Fantastic, Rice plays Fox, Marth, Greninja, Yoshi, Mario, Dr. Mario, Falco, and I think I'm missing some others... Captain Falcon maybe? That's 8 characters Rice plays pretty well.

This was pre-patch, but whatever. Critique TKBreezy's Falco; TKBreezy vs. Lime's Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8__RY7Daw. Falco's startup... Is among the quickest in the game... Just wanted to point that out. Anyway, at 5:33, TKBreezy could have done a rapid jab ledge cancel, but I don't know if he's aware that Falco can do that.
 
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