Halloween Party Mafia ~ Over! Who drowned bobbing for apples? Who won Best Costume?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Likely inactive until Saturday morning my time - GMT.

Not read thread but ctrl+f'd my name (scumslip amirite?). Lynch me and you lose the best player in the game (debatable Ryker, debatable).

I want J, Moth and Sang dead as of my latest whims. I forget my old posts but I'm sure they're right.

Just gonna let you know, I hate it when people throw this around and am taking this post as a scum tell.

 

[#HBC | J]

Soupa's attempt at being humourous fell extremely short.

2.5/10 It was pretty bad.

Also, if you know I knew that what I was doing was that thing, then why call me out on it when it was exactly what I did? Also you didn't "debunk" anything besides be a peanut gallery of agreeing/commenting to what I was saying so haha at that.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Okay, I've reed the thread, and first thing's first.

Request: Deadline Extension

We have no set path for toDay, and I do not want to scramble for a lynch, like we are at this point.

I feel like a couple of people haven't answered my questions yet. Soup and Swiss are two I think. J's responded to me so he's good.

Anyways, before I responded to anything toDay, I have to talk about EBR. Tbph, I had no idea rather or not they would be my final vote for toDay. They were my first because I wanted explanation from them for just what they were thinking with their Ran suspicion, because it seemed nonsensical to me, as already explained, and it still does. I appreciate that they helped to get the game moving, but that said, they have done absolutely nothing else so far this game. As soon as the pressure came on to them, they started to coast through the Day. I really do think that they are simply trying to ride off of their weight that they have, in the sense that they know no one will attack them for the very reason that they are Ryker and Kuzi. This is why I call everyone out to the challenge of having enough balls to vote for players I feel they fear.

They are a hydra, and thus have even less reasoning for inactivity.

I hear some people calling DH dead weight. Tis is true. DH has jumped on one an easy wagon and simply has left it to that. However, he has the benefit of being partially reed as dumb townie, which is why I would put EBR > him.

Ran lynch is dumb. Trying to kill Ran for simply having bad reads is dumb, which is what it appears a lot of you want him dead for. You guys seriously need to differentiate between someone being anti-town and actually scummy. The most legit piece of "evidence" against Ran is his scum slip, but I'm simply not fully convinced by that. Feels like a mistake a townie could make, and plus it just doesn't line up with the other things Ran is doing which makes me feel that he is a townie.

Speaking of Ran, Ran, you still haven't really answered my question. How is EBR's suspicion of you legit? He went way out of his way to plant suspicion on you. Also, maybe you can't see this from your pov, but, he definitely is also accusing you of something that, from his PoV, he could of seen you doing as a townie.

I will only vote Ran if there is literally no other option for toDay and we need a lynch.

Responding to stuff in another post, I just wanted to get important stuff out into a separate post first.

 

[#HBC | J]

Swords is speaking the truth w.r.t. DH/EBR. DH for me is being read as a dumb townie just getting the blunt of the heat because everyone is trying to pass the blame of the "If there is a scum bandwagonger it is DH!" which is like "....well aight then." It's not black and white. There is a grey area and the very person pushing Ran the hardest could be scum. Even with Sang's elaboration, it's more null to me then scum.

Are you guys really that afraid of Kuzi/Ryker? How laaaame to be afraid of them.

Request Deadline Extension

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soupa's attempt at being humourous fell extremely short.
2.5/10 It was pretty bad.

Also, if you know I knew that what I was doing was that thing, then why call me out on it when it was exactly what I did? Also you didn't "debunk" anything besides be a peanut gallery of agreeing/commenting to what I was saying so haha at that.

i got bored, i was gonna include a john madden joke along with a half-time show and whatnot but so much effort

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Da hell at you guys being afraid of us that much? How laaaaaame indeed. Goodness me, I just can't figure out why someone would be so afraid of a slot that has done nothing but ick.

js there has been nothing but bleck from that slot lately and that slot is probably dummy or scummy

Like seriously, there is so much ewwy stuff coming from them like goodness me it just so bleck js.

 

[Shadow Moth]

How about a real post, kuz?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I was about to make a post challenging a lot of people to wagon you to get you to talk, but I see you're here now. So, I'm going to assume a real good post with updated reads is on it's way, no?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you're supposed to prod dodge, cello.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

You know, they say that if Cello is not contributing, then Cello's probably scum. I think that's probably a good indication of their scumminess right there. =D

 

[#HBC | J]

Da hell at you guys being afraid of us that much? How laaaaaame indeed. Goodness me, I just can't figure out why someone would be so afraid of a slot that has done nothing but ick.

js there has been nothing but bleck from that slot lately and that slot is probably dummy or scummy

Like seriously, there is so much ewwy stuff coming from them like goodness me it just so bleck js.

You really need new material and stop with the just blatant attacks to how I talk. It's gotten old and now it's just showing how childish you are with your jokes.

Plus I've never said ewwy and wouldn't be caught dead saying that.

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Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[#HBC | J]

Agreed on if you guys are pretending to be Cello, you are doing an epic job as being him as scum.

Unvote
Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[#HBC | J]

Come oooon, you know what would really make my day? QL'ing EBR.

Unvote
Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Btw, I claim princess. I'll also CC whatever EBR claims just because.

I need more aggro and more ego!

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

No. Sit down. Shut the **** up. Stop playing like a ******.

Ryker doesn't have a power cord to his computer so he hasn't been able to be around and therefore we havn't talked. I try not to involve myself in D1 play anyway because I only taint tells that I look for when I read through the thread (however I'm actually feeling in the mood to play some mafia today and my other game is closed so I guess I'll actually do something) so the argument that I should be more on top of this game considering the players in the hydra is complete ****. That also carries over to giving other players free passes because they are known for acting stupid as opposed to us where we're apparently supposed to be on top of things all the time and thus are scummy when we aren't. Have you read Dgray man? Asdioh tried to knee jerk a scum read of WL for those same reasons and look what he flipped. When in that game did we become productive? End of D2.

I'm not excusing my inactivity, its a null tell, but if you're trying to make an argument that this inactivity goes against our meta and thus makes us scummier than other inactives then you're either very stupid or scum.

I have yet to actually read this thread yet though I've given it a good skim. Ran lynch is still where we are going and I have no idea why Sword is saying its a dumb idea. I disagree that the scummiest thing about Ran is his scumslip, though I don't like that all the same. You say his reads are backwards which, though true, isn't the main thing to focus on with his push. Its his reasoning for his reads. There simply isn't enough content in this game to warrant the reasoning he has given for some players and he is digging to find reasoning to make scum picks work rather than just stating what they have done that was scummy, even if there wasn't that much to comment on. For instance I disagree with his scum read on you in 218 because he is taking your dislike of my Ran pressure and using it to insinuate that almost surely knew that I was right and wanted to look pro-town by defending Ran instead of just speaking your mind. Instead of what he was reaching for, it could just as easily have been you just didn't agree with my Ran push and wanted to pressure me off it. However I find it interesting, and a town tell, that Sword is trying to emulate what I did in Kingmaker in trying to go after his largest scum read regardless of reputation. However I don't like that he's insinuating things about what our inactivity means in assuming ulterior motives. I explained above why using inactivity to explain why we're scum is dumb and we're no way trying to ride off our status, we're just not playing the game. Don't even try to stretch that.

As for 104

I'm not judging Ran's questions of RVS just on the surface level, I'm looking at the intent behind them. I still don't know what type of answer Ranmaru hoped to gain from asking specific people who they found the hardest to read as well as who people's rivals are. What townie intent is there found to knowing everyone's answers to those questions, ie, what does he plan to do with those answers. Nothing should be the apparent answer because there is nothing good you can learn from them. Ran being well, Ran shouldn't explain away why that's excusable. This exact same thing happened in DGray where JTB asked a question to Bardull with no pro-town direction behind it and it got explained away by JTB just being JTB and he freaking survived until D4.

As for scum not having communication until they discovered the true theme, where did you read that? Last I remember from the rules Nabe wouldn't disclose whether there was a lack of communication or not.

Ryker wrote that post but I'm assuming Swiss or J because he feels them to be the most competent players on the list, though J is probably the most free on this playerlist from my experience.

Soup is scum. His vote on me is absolute trash and he knows it. He admits in the post right before he votes me that he thinks that my vote on Ran is warranted in his own way but still thinks that it is more shallow than other people who he thinks have boarded with little reasoning. If he thinks our vote is warranted then how does he think its also shallow at the same time? There have been hop-ons to the Ranmaru wagon that had half the reasoning we provided. Literally the only reason for his vote on us over another player for his same reasoning is to try and show that he wasn't afraid to vote for a power player and had backbone. Not to mention his commentary in his 319 is absolutely terrible and reeks to all hell. That post literally has no inferences or deductions. It is just quoting the back and forth between J and Sang and throwing in sideshow commentary in an attempt to make it look like he's contributing. There didn't need to be an analysis of the interaction. If Soup felt so strongly that said interaction was TvT why didn't he just say that and explain his reasoning instead of making a large post full of nothing. Not to mention he's selectively applying tells to Sang that he isn't doing to J throughout that post which I heavily dislike.

@Scum: If you want to have any chance of winning this game then you best kill me toNight because I will be finding you toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm not voting EBR btw, show me validity to the wagon.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I got ninja'd by a post that is solidifying why I am not voting him.

Get off him and vote Ran.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Agreed on if you guys are pretending to be Cello, you are doing an epic job as being him as scum.

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Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the plan.

Also da hell at you not spelling our name right. Thats just so ick. Don't refer to this slot as Nymph, call us Larxene!!!!!!

Oh but then you cheated and town won

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Come oooon, you know what would really make my day? QL'ing EBR.

Unvote
Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Btw, I claim princess. I'll also CC whatever EBR claims just because.

I need more aggro and more ego!

You aren't good enough to play like this so I suggest you stop before everyone loses what little respect they currently have for you.

 

[#HBC | J]

That's the plan.

Also da hell at you not spelling our name right. Thats just so ick. Don't refer to this slot as Nymph, call us Larxene!!!!!!

Oh but then you cheated and town won

Looow blow with the last line. Like that wasn't even needed.

Stop playing like a ******? I'm only doing what is considering "good" play by DGames which is to personally attack the person you are attacking pluuuuus showing that ego>>>logic!

Your SoupaScum read is weird and doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

 

[#HBC | J]

You aren't good enough to play like this so I suggest you stop before everyone loses what little respect they currently have for you.

Thank you master of mafia for telling me how I should have fun playing a game! ^^ I'll be sure to take it into consideration. I'll also be wary that people take how I play in one game personally enough to lose respect for my character.

But coming from a player who isn't good enough to pull it off either, kind of hypocritical. Especially when they actually try to play this way for realz.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Looow blow with the last line. Like that wasn't even needed.

Stop playing like a ******? I'm only doing what is considering "good" play by DGames which is to personally attack the person you are attacking pluuuuus showing that ego>>>logic!

Your SoupaScum read is weird and doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

Actually it was needed. Someone needs to put you in your place.

And my SoupScum read makes plenty of sense. You've pretty much pointed out the same thing I saw in 322 yet instead of correctly diagnosing it as scummy you said "so haha at that." He didn't debunk anything, he just gave sideshow commentary.

 

[#HBC | J]

Now Kuzi, do something that ISN'T trying to attack me personally and get people to not listen to me by ad-homineming me. Demoralizing me is not going to help you in the long run besides your own personal game of boost that ego of yours to "prove" that your better than me.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Thank you master of mafia for telling me how I should have fun playing a game! ^^ I'll be sure to take it into consideration. I'll also be wary that people take how I play in one game personally enough to lose respect for my character.

But coming from a player who is the only one good enough to pull it off either, kind of makes sense. Especially when they actually try to play this way for realz.

Good. At least J know when to tactically satiate me.

 

[#HBC | J]

Actually it was needed. Someone needs to put you in your place.

I beg to differ. Someone needs to put you in YOUR place simply because of the blatant disregard you have for any other players that isn't in like that locker room bro-gade you have with the troll patrol.

I'm tired of playing games with people who have ultimately changed the way DGames from the past of just having fun to something that is competitive and personal.

You can "put me in my place" but it's a whole lot of nothing because I don't care for your opinion.

And my SoupScum read makes plenty of sense. You've pretty much pointed out the same thing I saw in 322 yet instead of correctly diagnosing it as scummy you said "so haha at that." He didn't debunk anything, he just gave sideshow commentary.

How is sideshow commentary scummy? How is this different from your normal Soupa?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Now Kuzi, do something that ISN'T trying to attack me personally and get people to not listen to me by ad-homineming me. Demoralizing me is not going to help you in the long run besides your own personal game of boost that ego of yours to "prove" that your better than me.

Demoralizing you is the sunshine in my day and you have no right to take that pleasure away from me.

Pretty sure the majority of 334 had nothing to do with you so you can stop with the "EBR hasn't posted anything of value yet" push.

 

[#HBC | J]

Demoralizing you is the sunshine in my day and you have no right to take that pleasure away from me.

Pretty sure the majority of 334 had nothing to do with you so you can stop with the "EBR hasn't posted anything of value yet" push.

Nah, I'm pushing you just to push you. Problem?

And other reasons but revealing them =/= fun yet.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Can both of you knock it off?

 

[#HBC | J]

Can both you knock it off.

Can you give us good reason to not continue this? What if we are both gaining reads off each other by making this more personal because that's how I can read Kuzi better based on the way he responds to my mockery of his horrendous playstyle?

RR, you've been sitting on the sides not doing much after your Ran push early game. Can you give me a scum-read or two? You say you don't want EBR lynch and won't be lynching him, why is he soooooo super town when even he says his actions have been null?

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Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!

Forgot about that.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Working on that.

If that is how you do it fine, but I don't see what your getting at here.

 

[#HBC | J]

EBR/Swords/Soupa/Ran, opinion of RR based on his posts during our back and forth.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

I beg to differ. Someone needs to put you in YOUR place simply because of the blatant disregard you have for any other players that isn't in like that locker room bro-gade you have with the troll patrol.

I'm tired of playing games with people who have ultimately changed the way DGames from the past of just having fun to something that is competitive and personal.

Nope. Pretty sure that it's just my dislike of you, because you're the only one whose playstyle make me want to throw things into walls and punch lampposts. I literally don't have a problem or make it personal with any other player, but your constant need to put yourself on a moral highground above others pisses me off (and others off) to no end. That and, despite this, you also try to preach and say you aren't actually cocky makes you the biggest hypocrite this side of dGames.

If you're cocky, like us, at least woman up and come to terms with it. That or have the results to back it up.

But thats enough bashing, back to the game.

How is sideshow commentary scummy? How is this different from your normal Soupa?

TownSoup doesn't make one lined sideshow commentary. Ever. He takes something and goes with it, often for a long time rambling different thoughts off about it most of them inferences. He literally took your interaction and didn't analyse it (you said yourself that he didn't debunk anything) and just gave it right back to you with some meaningless commentary.

TownSoup wouldn't have made that post in the first place. He would have said he liked the interaction and he thought it was TvT and would have given reasoning with it.

 

[#HBC | J]

How about a real post, kuz?

Hooooow about a real post from you eh? You've hidden for a bit then come in to poke at EBR to post a real post? Are you hiding your real post from us? Is Swiss still your strongest scum-read? What do you think of Sang? Whaaaat about this EBR wagon? By the tone of this post, you seem to dislike them.

Tell me which wagon you would join out of Ran/EBR if the lynch was limited to just those two? (it's not exclusive but run through the hypothetical with me)

I miss Gova btw.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Can you give us good reason to not continue this? What if we are both gaining reads off each other by making this more personal because that's how I can read Kuzi better based on the way he responds to my mockery of his horrendous playstyle?

RR, you've been sitting on the sides not doing much after your Ran push early game. Can you give me a scum-read or two? You say you don't want EBR lynch and won't be lynching him, why is he soooooo super town when even he says his actions have been null?

Unvote
Vote: Erupting Burning Ryker!!!

Forgot about that.

wtfamireading.jpg

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Hooooow about a real post from you eh? You've hidden for a bit then come in to poke at EBR to post a real post? Are you hiding your real post from us? Is Swiss still your strongest scum-read? What do you think of Sang? Whaaaat about this EBR wagon? By the tone of this post, you seem to dislike them.

Tell me which wagon you would join out of Ran/EBR if the lynch was limited to just those two? (it's not exclusive but run through the hypothetical with me)

I miss Gova btw.

Did J just make a post that I like?

Oh my god J just made I post that I like.

Getting appropriate picture h/o

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why are we not lynching Ran?

 

[#HBC | J]

Nope. Pretty sure that it's just my dislike of you, because you're the only one whose playstyle make me want to throw things into walls and punch lampposts. I literally don't have a problem or make it personal with any other player, but your constant need to put yourself on a moral highground above others pisses me off (and others off) to no end. That and, despite this, you also try to preach and say you aren't actually cocky makes you the biggest hypocrite this side of dGames.

If you're cocky, like us, at least woman up and come to terms with it. That or have the results to back it up.

But thats enough bashing, back to the game.

I'll get to you later because it's not important to this game but this is just wrong, like all of it. It's like you don't even know me at all. Then again, it's you we are dealing with.

TownSoup doesn't make one lined sideshow commentary. Ever. He takes something and goes with it, often for a long time rambling different thoughts off about it most of them inferences. He literally took your interaction and didn't analyse it (you said yourself that he didn't debunk anything) and just gave it right back to you with some meaningless commentary.

TownSoup wouldn't have made that post in the first place. He would have said he liked the interaction and he thought it was TvT and would have given reasoning with it.

BS on he doesn't make sideshow commentary ever. You do realize he did most of that just to try and make fun of me and a little bit of Sang?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Courtesy of Meadowsizzle.

 

[#HBC | J]

Did J just make a post that I like?

Oh my god J just made I post that I like.

Getting appropriate picture h/o

IMO, just lighten up and play a more carefree and not come into the opinion of dredding a game with me, then you will realize you like a lot of my posts.

Why are we not lynching Ran?

He's town?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

BS on he doesn't make sideshow commentary ever. You do realize he did most of that just to try and make fun of me and a little bit of Sang?

BS on your BS. When he's town all his commentary includes inferences and scumhunting. Show me a town game where he just gave the post back to you with meaningless analysis. Last time I remember seeing that type of post from him was Gurren Lagann.

 

[#HBC | J]

BS on your BS. When he's town all his commentary includes inferences and scumhunting. Show me a town game where he just gave the post back to you with meaningless analysis. Last time I remember seeing that type of post from him was Gurren Lagann.

You better be lucky I'm considering using meta for one of my last games. I'll go do some research since you know Soupa the best but I could swear this is just one of his antics like normal.