Hack Melee to improve lower tiers

[~GregDang!~]

No, this should not be done. I think the game is balanced as the way it is.

 

[smasher32]

Fixing crappy and useless moves wouldn't be hard though. Kirby's throws for example could be given higher knockback and become unbreakable (D-Throw NEEDS more knockback). The weird hitbox on his F-Smash could be altered to have all horizontal knockback. U-Smash could have the entire hitbox be KO-able. And Final cutter could be made like Brawl's in which it doesn't remove all of Kirby's jumps (and maybe more knockback). Give him better aerial movement, make F-air like Brawl's, and at least Kirby has more options.

Like I said, it'd just be nice to fix the blatant flaws of low/bottom tiers. Balancing them perfectly (or even close to it) is a pipe dream, but some garbage properties can be fixed.

If you gave Kirby all of that, he'd be broken tier >_>.

I'll stick with bottom tier, thank you very much.

 

[Stratocaster]

Lets hack Pichu and give it the KNEE!!!
First, we may have to give Pichu a knee to knee with.

Or maybe... we could give EVERY character the KNEE
And make Falcon's always sweetspot... and always kill
Falcon for God Tier
Also, when Falcon taunts, all other characters must immediately stop what they are doing, and dance, effectively showing Falcon their "moves"

 

[Emperor Mario]

The only thing I would change in melee is combine Mario and Dr. Mario and improve their/his recovery, he's not called Jumpman for nothing.

 

[puckgood]

@ Yeniths: Thanks!

I have a question.... why has everyone been successful hacking brawl but not melee? I never hear about changing melee (IT DEFINITELY DOESN"T NEED IT) but it seems odd that one seems more viable to hack. Any hackers out there willing to shed some light on the subject?

 

[The Immortal Sir NZ]

Well, i dunno, i would love to have characters like Mewtwo and Kirby have some tweaks to make them better but it would take plenty of tweaks. If they overshoot, they will be broken, if they undershoot, well congratulations you just made Mewtwo into a character in the top of the low tier. I think just basic things like increase in weight, no hurting yourself, not as much lag would work.

 

[Vulcan55]

loool The only melee tactic they have in brawl so far is wavedashing.

Now they have 64-style L-canceling.
o.O

 

[metaXzero]

If you gave Kirby all of that, he'd be broken tier >_>.

I'll stick with bottom tier, thank you very much.

Only thing he'd have broken is maybe F-throw Kirbycides. Otherwise, he'd be no where near broken.

 

[otg]

@ Yeniths: Thanks!

I have a question.... why has everyone been successful hacking brawl but not melee? I never hear about changing melee (IT DEFINITELY DOESN"T NEED IT) but it seems odd that one seems more viable to hack. Any hackers out there willing to shed some light on the subject?

We don't need to Hack Melee. This game is way more balanced than Brawl and doesn't need hacking to be playable.

 

[metaXzero]

We don't need to Hack Melee. This game is way more balanced than Brawl and doesn't need hacking to be playable.

Both Melee and Brawl are horribly unbalanced. Doesn't matter which is more or less balanced...

 

[Hyper_Ridley]

Well, i dunno, i would love to have characters like Mewtwo and Kirby have some tweaks to make them better but it would take plenty of tweaks. If they overshoot, they will be broken, if they undershoot, well congratulations you just made Mewtwo into a character in the top of the low tier. I think just basic things like increase in weight, no hurting yourself, not as much lag would work.

This.

Granted, there are probably a few "little" things we could tweak on Mewtwo/ Pichu. Maybe not to make them "perfectly balanced", but at least make them suck less.

 

[metaXzero]

Hey. I listed some non-broken improvements for Kirby.

Then again, alot of Kirby's moves were just wrong.

 

[Oracle]

Melee isn't horribly unbalanced. Didn't whats his face beat ken with yoshi, and someone else beat him with roy? I have yet to see someone beat M2K's meta knight with jigglypuff.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Melee's not as bad as some games but it's far from balanced.

 

[metaXzero]

It's better then Marvel vs. Capcom 2 at least. Isn't that one just 4 characters (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[puckgood]

We don't need to Hack Melee. This game is way more balanced than Brawl and doesn't need hacking to be playable.

*Hits head against wall* I KNOW that. Didn't you see the bit where I said, in big letters that anyone could read, (IT DEFINITELY DOESN"T NEED IT)? I was asking if there was some technical reason that brawl is more easily hacked. Okay? I DO NOT want to hack melee. It was an academic QUESTION.