Grab hits help recover stale moves like any other move?

[gr8ape]

Am I correct?

meaning, 3 grab hits + the throw itself can actually give back the whole killing power to a diminished move? (or almost)

 

[Tenki]

Yes.

If pummels become stale (and they do), then they should also help recover other moves' placement on the stale moves list.

Though, I've heard rumors that things like holding A for jab combos or pummelling too fast won't count on the stale move list. I haven't tested them myself but I'm inclined to believe that that's not true.

 

[Nintendevil]

dumb/old question but do moves refresh after 7 or 9 moves =D

 

[Remzi]

dumb/old question but do moves refresh after 7 or 9 moves =D

The game restores the last 9 moves.

 

[fissionprime]

Am I correct?

meaning, 3 grab hits + the throw itself can actually give back the whole killing power to a diminished move? (or almost)

shouldn't it be obvious? Pummels are a separate attack from the throw so yes they do refresh.

 

[ArcPoint]

Not all of them. Things like Wolf's pummel only refreshes up to 1 pummel, something that could be related is that only the first grab pummel does 1%, the others do less than 1% damage.

 

[Adapt]

wolf/lucario/samus's pummels only refresh multiple times if you don't do them as fast as possible.

I dunno why this is, but I tested it a long time ago.

 

[ColinJF]

If a move combos into itself then the whole combo only counts as one entry in the stale move queue.

Here is the data on which grab attacks combo into themselves:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5393749

Note that this is also a consideration for using quick tilts and such as well.

 

[Omit]

I didn´t know this nice question = D

 

[Dragoomba]

So basically if you use the same move over and over... it will replenish another stale move if it reaches 9?

 

[El Raspa]

Hello, I have a silly question...

with some input that makes a few hits (for example Snake's Nair), will the move count like 4 hits or like 1 hit for the replenish?

 

[Mr.Victory07]

Hello, I have a silly question...

with some input that makes a few hits (for example Snake's Nair), will the move count like 4 hits or like 1 hit for the replenish?

It counts as 1 hit.

And not all pummel hits count, because they CAN miss(as in they have hitboxes)

 

[gr8ape]

in any case, moral of the story is if one of your killing moves is diminished and opponent is in ko percentage, get a grab in +pummels

 

[Genos]

But make sure they're slow if you have combo pummels.

 

[YagamiDark]

Normally I grab pummel my opponent or beat on my bike / the stage to replenish my moves.