Grab cancelled dash attack.

[BluePeachy100]

Has anyone considered using this as a mindgame?

 

[TresChikon]

I believe it varies the range of the grab in case the opponent was trying to pivot it or WD backwards to avoid a JC grab.

Can you explain the mechanics? I'm not sure how it works.

 

[DRD]

I've never heard of this

Teach me plz

 

[Strong Badam]

usually useful w/ sheik and the like. you cancel your dash attack w/ z. commonly referred to as "boost grab." run, dash attack and then hit z immediately, kinda as if you were JC grabbing except Y is A.
gives more range than a dash/jc grab but has more ending lag. i don't use it. amusing w/ the Mario's though, since they make sounds, and if you delay it enough the sound for Fox/Falco's dash attack will come out too before you grab.

 

[BluePeachy100]

I thought most people would've been expecting a dash attack, especially at close range. I doubt many could react THAT quickly, unless they were already in the middle of trying to attack you.

As for Mech. they've basically already been explained. If you miss.

Haruhi: Take your punishment!

 

[MarkLoo]

you mean dash attack cancelled grab

 

[BluePeachy100]

No, the grab cancels the dash attack.

 

[TresChikon]

Well yes then, it's just another variation of a grab. Just like JC and dash grab it has its application. Perhaps you want more range, or are pretty sure that it won't miss and just following up a combo. Or to trick people who like to CC your dash attacks.

 

[BluePeachy100]

Oh, true. It works wonders against CCs.

 

[Dogysamich]

Random History lesson:
It actually has a name, it's called grunt grabbing. It's one of the old terms that got dropped because of meta/lack of usefulness, etc etc.

Yes, the inputs are the exact same as boost/lunge grabbing for sheik/fox/any other character that uses it (i hear peachs use it to? Because they running grabs have the same frames as their standing grabs. Random trivia for anybody who cares)

It works because, as you should know, doc ALWAYS makes a sound when he does a dash attack. (Same concept that goes behind the edgeguarding trick that's probably been overlooked on this forum time and time again).

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Use:

If you really want to use it against somebody that is CCing, i mean I guess you could. I realistically dont see why you wouldnt just JC grab (seeing as JC grab is faster and safer anyway).

Realistically, the only use for grunt grabbing is if somebody has a fast reaction and reacts to sound, with sound availible.

"Dogy, that's a pretty specific critera." Yeah, that's why it's not useful. For it to realistically work (as intended), your opponent has to shield/cc/do-something-that-keeps-then-inplace specifically because they hear "woo".

Think about it: if your opponent thinks you're going to dash attack but isnt THAT fast on reaction (or doesnt know that subtle of a detail), it doesnt matter if there's a sound or not, they're going to be in shield anyway. If they think you're going to grab, they're going to move and a sound is going to stop them. If they cant hear the **** tv to begin with, you cant use this at all. XD

 

[Strong Badam]

dogy you're forgetting it's major use
for lols.

 

[Vulcan55]

I always make sure I can hear the TV before a match.

 

[Desh]

Peaches just use normal dash grab when cg'ing and stuff.

 

[Grunt]

Random History lesson:
It actually has a name, it's called grunt grabbing.

F*ck yeah!

 

[mars16]

Tes I'v performed this before, Its easy to use on characters like Mario but not Sonic becuase he has a fast Dash attack.

 

[TemPesT-]

grunt grabbing is so fun with doc and mew2 :]