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Good Player Fund for Dark and Roche to go to Genesis 2, MSU, or Apex 2012

Brookman

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I'm not sure what this thread is about but my post count needed a +1.
L oooOOOOOOoooOOOOOooo L;

these guys are from chile, right? Well, why don't we let their local ssbm community fund their trip to the U.S. Things used to get done on a local level like that all the time. I remember when Cort wanted to go to OC2, half of CT funded that trip.

If these guys really wana come over to USA and place top 5 (although I sincerely doubt that will happen) Their own local community should champion them. Let the proof be in the pudding.

If he comes in and upsets on hbox/m2k/pp/hax/mango/ who ever/ then maybe we can talk about this. You know? Maybe next year or something @ Rom 5

If any one deserves a "good player" fund I would wager that player would be Armada.
 

Brookman

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actions per minute do not have a direct correlation with victories per tournament-bracket.


let's look at Armada's VPT and compare, just as an example.
What's that you say? It's skewed because peach is not a space animal? OK!
Let's also look at PP's VPT!

I'm not saying he's bad, I'm not saying he doesn't have potential. I am simply doubting his ability to place top 5 (read: in money) at an event as competitive as pound 5 was. I would love for his community to fund his trip and I would love even more if he proved me wrong. Really, I would.


Really, I'm all for moving extremely fast in this game and if that is what a tourament came down to I think that maybe this guy would have it. . . at least half of the time.
 

Brookman

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ICY, sorry I never got around to playing my matches I've been doing a lot of reading and only really take breaks to troll.
 

BigD!!!

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do these donation things get paid back if people win?

if people are donating with the expectation theyll get paid back, then they should donate to someone that will win

but if they arent expecting to get it back, then it would make more sense to donate to somebody that isnt going to win enough money to pay for their ticket anyway, especially if its somebody that they would be excited to see play against players they know?

if armada gets donations to get to a tournament, then he wins $1000, he goes home $1000 richer not having spent anything. meanwhile, all the rest of us get our own jobs to get to a tournament and dont win any money, so we're out the plane ticket and get no prize money

i dont really understand donating to somebody who leaves with $2000 or something every time he comes here

im not saying dark and roche need this more than anyone else, but i dont see why armada/machdash/anybody else needs it even as much as they do

lastly, as stated by others before, roche and dark had no intention of going to genesis 2 until like a million dudes said "yo we'll donate and get you guys to genesis 2", so dont hate them

im under the impression that this stuff doesnt get paid back though, if it does then disregard this post
 

Tee ay eye

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^^somebody seriously needs to look at his apm for that video looool
who cares?

your APM is less than 100 when you're getting *****

But it is directly proportional to manliness and awesome.
let's pay out the **** to see someone who is likely to not make it to semis in bracket. GET HYPE

yes, they get paid back if people win. or, at the very least, that's how HMW's good player fund works. axe won a few hundred from the CGC they flew him out to, and he paid back the plane ticket and kept the change.

i think the point of the good player fund is to get people out there who wouldn't be able to afford a trip out there/wouldn't be willing to risk a few hundred dollars on something like that. i think it's to generate more hype matches rather than keeping players in their own regions. dashizwiz wouldn't have gone to CGC without the GPF, axe wouldn't have gone to CGC without the GPF, and jman wouldn't have gone to DGDTJ without the GPF.
 

The Star King

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if armada gets donations to get to a tournament, then he wins $1000, he goes home $1000 richer not having spent anything. meanwhile, all the rest of us get our own jobs to get to a tournament and dont win any money, so we're out the plane ticket and get no prize money

i dont really understand donating to somebody who leaves with $2000 or something every time he comes here

im not saying dark and roche need this more than anyone else, but i dont see why armada/machdash/anybody else needs it even as much as they do
Well, Armada was GOING to pay back to the people who donated, but then there was no prize money for Pound V. It's not his fault.

I agree, though, and that's why I'm against Dark going. He's not even that good.
 

PB&J

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i thought people wanted dark to come..whats with all the change now..i think he would **** most of us actually..
 

MasterShake

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People can watch Dark's tech skill vid anytime and still watch pros at Genesis 2 get off on Fox. Doesn't really seem to be skin off anyone's nose if Dark doesn't go. Would it be nice? Yeah. But if he wants to go I'm sure he can find a way in the next 4 months.
 

Beat!

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I think a lot of people would've donated if it hadn't been for the Pound V "disaster". Because of that, a lot of other funds were started, and people donated to them instead.

Poor timing, basically.
 

darkoblivion12

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I believe that apex would be a better idea to donate towards. But I think it should wait a little bit. This thread showed up at the wrong time, but it is good to know that all the preparations have been made so that those 2 players can get here.
 

Roche_CL

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yeap, probably we won't make it to july with the money

i have a question, does anyone has donated yet?
because my paypal account its still at 0 xDD, i just wanna make sure cause i've never used paypal before.

and as BigD said

"lastly, as stated by others before, roche and dark had no intention of going to genesis 2 until like a million dudes said "yo we'll donate and get you guys to genesis 2", so dont hate them"

thats the truth :3
 

PB&J

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Huh, i guess..if get this amazing buddy pass deal from my friend from delta has..u guys still can come so dont give up yet
 

Эикельманн [РУС]

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i thought people wanted dark to come..whats with all the change now..i think he would **** most of us actually..
Right. Because most of us are, hmmm, what's the word?




Oh, right, it's bad. Yes, we're mainly bad. Think about the bigger picture. Honestly, I feel Dark is too busy focusing on having fun to be a serious player and think. He focuses almost 100% on tech skill, which would leave no room for thinking, or being a smart player. Dark is very hyped now due to his interesting combo video, but that is in no way worthy of a paid trip to the USA. That treatment is reserved for the best of the best. If we did this for him, or "Roche", we would place him on the same level as PC, Shiz, or M2K.

Think about it.
 

PB&J

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M2k thinks that dark is very good,so do other great players..people just dont know how to judge people's skill when they are technical
 

Mew2King

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Evan I said he is extremely good skill wise. I don't know if he's great winning-wise, and intelligent strategy for fighting. I am not saying he doesn't have the potential to be, but you shouldn't be saying things in a way that make it seem like I said something else.

also im a bit jealous/bummed that armada got like a billion dollars donated to him cuz of 1 bad incident that happened to him but ive had countless thousands cheated from me both at p5 and like 4 other nationals but ive never been donated to. I mean I'm not saying I'm expecting it, it just seems kind of gay and unfair, as not getting paid in general is unfair especially when you rely on it and clearly won/deserve it, as is blatant favoritism.
 

finalcloud13

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Well Armada had a good friend that stepped up and created the fund for him, so he's lucky to have a friend like that above all. From what I've seen I also think Armada isn't the type of person that would complain about anything if the tables were turned, which kind of also makes people want to donate to him more.
 

Mew2King

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i actually started the fund for him to come to P5 originally (this was back then I was teaming with Jman though, just to help him out). That logic is stupid tbch. If something extremely gay happens, that person has the right to complain it if affects their life heavily. If it only happens one time that's one thing (for most people, p5 was the first time they got screwed, so they can easily be more forgiving, as I would have been if it was only my first experience with it) but having been victim to something like this 5 different times I can never look at it the same again.
 

finalcloud13

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Maybe you can start a fund for yourself. I wouldn't donate to it - I don't donate to any of the funds - but perhaps others will.

And I am sorry to hear you got screwed so many times, but you complaining about it kind of makes it sound like the community is obligated to donate to you when they didn't even have anything to do with you getting screwed those many times in the first place.
 
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