Good Lucas Side Charecter?

[-Annet211-]

I main lucas, and was wondering who would be a good lucas side. There may have been another topic in the past like this, I think I had seen one. Anyway. Please give me some ideas.

 

[Kinzer]

Meta Knight.

...Erm... I dunno?

 

[Levitas]

Welcome to smashboards ^_^

You want someone that has a good matchup on marth, metaknight, DK, and G&W as a priority. Marth and metaknight are probably your best bets in that regard.

 

[Irsic]

Snake is a pretty good secondary since he deals with your bad match-ups pretty well.

I use Diddy Kong.

 

[S.D]

Peach <3

D3 is another that covers Lucas' bad matchups well.

MK and Snake obviously too...

 

[heytallman]

I use ROB....the only one of the five that ROB has significant trouble with is Game and Watch, and MK, of course, but lots of characters have that weakness.

I'm trying to learn Marth just for the Game and Watch matchup....lol

 

[lil cj]

Pikachu, MK, Marth, and Kirby
are good choices

 

[c3gill]

The thread I started asking the same thing.

I thought about it for awhile and tried a bunch of people out, and decided on Diddy Kong / Falco. But like lots of people say, you just have to play around and figure out what works for you.

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

I was told before that Marth and MK are probably the best choices.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

MK
Snake
Marth

i'm sure you get it by now.

 

[FireKirby7]

Luigi seriously pwns Snake and DK IMO.
In Luigi vs. G&W, you can DI up out of his turtle and Fire Jump Punch him. XD

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

Luigi seriously pwns Snake and DK IMO.
In Luigi vs. G&W, you can DI up out of his turtle and Fire Jump Punch him. XD

Isn't Luigi at a disadvantage against DK?

 

[FireKirby7]

Isn't Luigi at a disadvantage against DK?

*Checks Luigi and DK boards* *shrugs*

If you're thinking DDD, then yeah, he has a infinite on him..... Don't know about DK though.

Just ignore me. I'm just saying stuff..... >_>

 

[Er!ckLZ]

ness?

ness is like Lucas..

KIND OF.

 

[lil cj]

Ness isnt a good second for Lucas
Their too similar and have the same bad matchups
The point of a secondary is to deal with the matchups
your main cant handle

 

[Makai369]

i would definitly say Marth

 

[Luur3]

I use Diddy. He handles the tough matchups pretty well for me

 

[PhoenixAlpha]

I use Lucas as my secondary. That is all.
I get to practice my deadly matchups constantly here, so
I just try to deal with it >_>

[on topic]
if I had to pick a second it would probably just be MK, but it's no
fun if you make it that easy
[/on topic]

 

[Chuee]

MK or Marth are your best bets.

 

[CallerID3]

Imo just go who with you're good with. If that doesn't work, just go MK, Marth, or Snake .

 

[Exce L]

MetaKnight or Marth would probably be well for Lucas's bad matchups.

 

[lil cj]

ZSS is a great secondary for Lucas
She takes care of all of the Deadly 4
G&W(60-40), DK(60-40), Marth(50-50), and she can handle MK pretty good even though the matchup is 40-60

She can also handle some of Lucas' 40-60 matches too
like Peach and ROB

Ive been using her alot lately and her play style is similar to Lucas
so its not too hard to pick her up if your a Lucas main

 

[MeLL0W]

I personally have Zelda, Peachy, Fox, and Meta Knight as other characters I can use.
Zelda is my other main with Peach Fox and MK being Secondaries.

 

[heytallman]

In addition to using ROB as a secondary, I am now going to start learning Snake. He is actually really really fun to use!

 

[Super Shadow Brawler 99]

I would have to say Snake. He has good regular attacks and also has some pretty good distance attack. I use him a lot and make a last minute win most of the time.

 

[Kazz@]

I use G&W and I find that it works very very well. It shortens Lucas' 20-80 Matchup to a 50-50 with G&W. I find that nice. Also, MK is a bit better.

 

[Irsic]

Yeah....those matchup numbers are wrong. It's in G&W's favor, but by no means is it 80-20.

 

[Chuee]

Yeah....those matchup numbers are wrong. It's in G&W's favor, but by no means is it 80-20.

so lucas vs G&W isnt 80-20?????????????????

 

[lil cj]

so lucas vs G&W isnt 80-20?????????????????

imo its 65-35

 

[OniTheWolf]

I use Toon Link. he feels so much like Lucas IMO.

 

[Chuee]

imo its 65-35

wtf

It seems worse than that.

• Beats PKF with bucket
• Beats PKF with turtle
• Outprioritizes all of our aerials
• Destroys our PKT recovery
• Plus he has a lot of good counterpick stages like cruise
• Up-B beats our Dair (I think)

The only advantage I can think of is that we beat him on the ground but G&W hardly stays on the ground at all
=/

 

[Irsic]

You need to learn that match up better, as turtle only beating PKF from a very specific angle.
He can't up-b WHILE being daired.

Turtle is annoying and strong, but it IS spaceable.

And believe it or not, GaW has a lot of laggy attacks, they just don't look laggy.

 

[Sosuke]

Can't Lucas DI out of turtle and Dair G@W?

 

[:mad:]

If Lucas DI's out, he'll just Dair straight down from the momentum and suffer some landing lag.

 

[actionblackbird]

I like how no one mention the fat man .

I would suggest Wario or tripple D for the win.
just don't get chain grabbed if you plan to use Wario.

 

[Super Shadow Brawler 99]

I think it depends on the skill of the player rather than the character picked. A good Lucas player good probably do well against someone who has no skill with G&W. Or maybe the other way around, either way some skill is required.

 

[Levitas]

Even if that's true, it's anything but a "the best player wins" scenario.

even on the ground, G&W has an advantage with longer range tilts. He can wall lucas pretty hard.

 

[heytallman]

just don't get chain grabbed if you plan to use Wario.

Lucas mains should already be doing this lol.

 

[Chuee]

You need to learn that match up better, as turtle only beating PKF from a very specific angle.
He can't up-b WHILE being daired.

Turtle is annoying and strong, but it IS spaceable.

And believe it or not, GaW has a lot of laggy attacks, they just don't look laggy.

Someone said that G&W's up-B cancels aerial approaches. I think it was a commentator at COT4. A G&W player did that to me once.
Old Matchup numbers are confusing me.