Golden Sun: The Lost Age (of) Mafia -Game Over! Indy Alex wins!

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Dont like ridiks jump , but maybe it's null.

 

[rid****ulous]

swiss is WL still scum(assuming you think this because of your vote) if kev flips scum?

 

[rid****ulous]

oh hello ninja. different heads. Kev worse then kantrip atm.

 

[KevinM]

"You cannot deny our ability, effectiveness or track records."

I will actually deny this to the ends of the earth having played in three consecutive games with Ryker where he threw the game for town.

I am not going to apply reason to a weak push it's simple as that.

I simply won't give any more light to your empty play, WL and Rake are the players I'm interested in.

For me it's a null that PJB/Orbo would hop on a wagon that Swiss and Ryker are in, they tend to follow the power players town or scum. However their weak reasoning of WHY they are voting for me is sort of silly.

Flipping at Swiss? Hardly, I don't flip in a mafia game, I don't react out of emotion, it's a shame he's on a wrong path but I'm not going to flip at him for it.

I was buddying him? We clearly have two different definitions of buddying, I wasn't piggybacking on any of his reads and in fact the only mention of Swiss I had made was that I wasn't scum with him in pregame. Good job trying to misrepresent my play there, that's actually a pretty scummy play.

In fact reading through all of my posts the only blatant buddying would come from Swiss applauding my reads, on this page and I don't blame him since they're most likely correct since I made them.

You trying to construe my play as buddying is a complete and total misrepresentation of what has transpired thus far in early game and pregame, in fact if anything a majority of this short game has seen me and Swiss at odds in our reads since I would go so far as to say this last page has been the most important minus my reads which again are correct.

"Would you say any of the players here are so stupid as to do something like what BW did in BIM, where there aren't suc h easy mechanical clears to get kev?
If so, who?"

You, RR, possibly Traveling Cat

Yes i'm serious, yes I think you guys could possibly be that inept.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

use a hydra excuse again and I will personally tunnel you to death

 

[KevinM]

Dont like ridiks jump , but maybe it's null.

Read what I said about the buddying then give me more then just a placeholder read.

Do you think it's a misrepresentation?

Or do you think they're simply just using buzz words incorrectly?

 

[rid****ulous]

For me it's a null that PJB/Orbo would hop on a wagon that Swiss and Ryker are in, they tend to follow the power players town or scum. However their weak reasoning of WHY they are voting for me is sort of silly.

Is it following a player if I agree with them? In Toonami none of the major players thought badwolf was scum, but I was pushing that through.

Flipping at Swiss? Hardly, I don't flip in a mafia game, I don't react out of emotion, it's a shame he's on a wrong path but I'm not going to flip at him for it.

Before you were saying stuff like "swiss wanna totem" It's not heavy, but it's there. Then when swiss gets on you, you start saying he'll throw the game after mentioning that he's smart.

I was buddying him? We clearly have two different definitions of buddying, I wasn't piggybacking on any of his reads and in fact the only mention of Swiss I had made was that I wasn't scum with him in pregame. Good job trying to misrepresent my play there, that's actually a pretty scummy play.

Different definitions.

You trying to construe my play as buddying is a complete and total misrepresentation of what has transpired thus far in early game and pregame, in fact if anything a majority of this short game has seen me and Swiss at odds in our reads since I would go so far as to say this last page has been the most important minus my reads which again are correct.

We dunno if those reads are correct yet. I wouldn't say your whole game has been buddying but it is there to a slight degree.

"Would you say any of the players here are so stupid as to do something like what BW did in BIM, where there aren't suc h easy mechanical clears to get kev?
If so, who?"

You, RR, possibly Traveling Cat

Yes i'm serious, yes I think you guys could possibly be that inept.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I don't think joker or orbo is so lackluster at mafia that they misuse "buddying".

Reading what you said, i'd agree it came more heavily then from swiss than yourself, so it kinda makes me feel like they just made a reason up to vote you.

I'm not sure they could misinterpret buddying, maybe they thought you not proverbially slapping swiss is in the face for it was telling. idk.

 

[rid****ulous]

use a hydra excuse again and I will personally tunnel you to death

.-. seriously Rake. I just almost got us lynched over something like this.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

wouldnt say kevmo saying "wanna totem" is enough to be labelled as buddying.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Thinking maybe i need to go read over Kevmo.

Not feeling this push though.

Still think Furious non posting tigre is better

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Ridikc, why is Kevmo changing how's he's interacting swiss scummy, since it appears you seem to feel that way ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

*with, dammit one handed typing

 

[rid****ulous]

Kev's insulting the intelligence of the person who's attacking him. That is not scummy because?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

because it's Kevmo ?

 

[rid****ulous]

damn you and your baseless meta reads Rake.
/noharmintended

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

also, i never said it wasn't, although I kinda implied it, and you kinda missed the question.

I'll make it clearer: Why as scum , does Kevmo immediately start insulting / attacking the people reading him, given that he probably has enough brain cells to know he's be seen as scummy for doing so ? And why does he even need to change ? Is he scared his "buddying " wasn't working well enough ?

 

[rid****ulous]

I'll make it clearer: Why as scum , does Kevmo immediately start insulting / attacking the people reading him, given that he probably has enough brain cells to know he's be seen as scummy for doing so ? And why does he even need to change ? Is he scared his "buddying " wasn't working well enough ?

You got me there. I don't know why scum kev does it. I know kev's probably confident in himself enough to the point where he can do it as either alignment.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I can't believe i just slightly defended Kevmo, by using "it's Kevmo" reasoning.

I must be terrible at this game

 

[Raziek]

Spectators, I now have a Green Room QT, PM me for access.

 

[KevinM]

I can't believe i just slightly defended Kevmo, by using "it's Kevmo" reasoning.

I must be terrible at this game

LOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[rid****ulous]

oh the swiss adum hydra is working again.

 

[Raziek]

Once you have the hydra working, do me a solid and quote your posts, Adum/Swiss.

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

Password reset, woot.


Good ole mediocore WL, didn't we have this conversation like 50 times before? I seem to remember one of them being for the exact same player for this behavior. When are you gonna learn that mafia isn't scumhunting by the numbers?

You don't need to make a dumb or scum case for weak players the vast majority of the time because their weakness is exactly what makes them very readable. A weak town player makes different mistakes then a weak scum player, though the mistakes of a weak town player might be the same as the mistakes of a mediocore or strong scum player, if you know the player's relative skill it's usually a breeze. That's what makes weak players weak, they're easily readable.

Once you have the hydra working, do me a solid and quote your posts, Adum/Swiss.

Pregame too? On it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR is kev scum?

I'm thinking about it.

Most players around here don't claim miller right away and I can see this mudslinging as salt from League mafia and FF8 mafia where Ryker made game throwing moves.

I see intent not related to alignment which muddlles it a bit. I do not like how he is apporaching Swiss right here but I'm not sure it is from a scum perspective.

Still think Kantrip is my main pick, as light as it is.

Laundry is my #2.

Kevin is something I am thinking about, since I can see from a town PoV him making this move.

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

Kev speaks the truth. For the first time in perhaps two years I wake up and see good reads posted in a game

Vote wl

Unable to bold

Vote WL

In-game quotes:

Ryker, lynch?

I'll get swiss to convey my thoughts for now since we STILL don't have our hydra account and I wanna limit the confusion. I already see people referring to us seperately. Figured Raz would be pissed about either of us posting out of hydra without consulting him first but what's done is done.

That doesn't even attempt to navigate around half of what I said.

"You're read on me is wrong and you should feel bad." is empty content.

"It is the fact that you're wrong, hence I have to deal with this tiresome easy lane push from two vocal players who are once again trying to put the town into an early detrimental position." Is also empty content. Ryker and I play always to our factions advantage. You cannot deny our ability, effectiveness or track records.

You would help your situation somewhat, if you threw less mud and applied more reason.

You seem to be under the misguided assumption I detest you because you claimed crumbed miller.

It was your reaction, hence why I quoted specifics, which read false intent. Please attempt to analyse words and information before making illogical and derogatory statements, it will be somewhat tiring to have to deal with you also.

"Cop if you read this don't bother investigating me I'll just turn up guilty."

Is riddled with false intent. You know that the cop, if in existence, will read this. And you've claimed miller, of course you'll appear guilty. Why are you stating such things? Because it makes you seem reasonable, valiant almost. That post is nothing but an attempt to salvage townie points.

Vote Kev

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

Have you seen the average townie player on SWF?

I've seen them investigate clears. Why wouldn't I implicitly state not to investigate a wasted investigation.

Hell just look at BIM and look at those cops.

You're read on me is wrong and you should feel bad.

You seem to be under the misguided assumption I detest you because you're pushing a vote on me.

It is the fact that you're wrong, hence I have to deal with this tiresome easy lane push from two vocal players who are once again trying to put the town into an early detrimental position.

Question Kev, why the crumb it rather then outright claiming it?

 

[Furio Tigre]

Hey look it's going to be the Swiss/Ryker continue to throw games show.

Dis a serious sentiment? What games have dese guys thrown?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Rajam's final fantasy where a foolish Razker claimed an inno on obvious scum Kantplay, then shut down my lynch of obv scum Inferno 5 posts later with : no this isn't the time for that.

 

[Furio Tigre]

Still think Furious non posting tigre is better

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

that is amazing.

die faster plz.

~<3 u Bardull

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Murderbush (Raziek/Ryker) Led multiple mislynches and town kept following along for the ride. Zen D1, Swiss D2, Joey D3, they shot me, I was scum, N3 but still it was too late and they stonewalled on Inferno and KreativeWizKids who was part of the faction with JTB.

League mafia Ryker shot town OS because he didn't like how he handled D1 with Gova, even though almost all of town thought OS was town and was correct on a bunch of reads.

Kevin got really mad after FF8 when it was game #3 where Ryker/Ryker Hydra played leader and made all the wrong calls, Mario Party 2, League, FF8.

Only reason I'm not scum reading Kevin is me trying to figure out his mindset outside of this to intent.

 

[Furio Tigre]

More people should vote where I am, but I guess that can wait

die faster plz.

Din realize youse was actually serious wit' dis, but youse actually bin talkin' me up every other post. Why? I don't owe youse money, you got me confused with someone else if that's why.

 

[KevinM]

Question Kev, why the crumb it rather then outright claiming it?

Two reasons

Everytime I outright claim miller I'm scum just trying to outplay town from D1 and think it fun.

And two had it not been pointed out I could bait a fake cop or track claim later if scum tried to get cute and use my crumb from earlier as a point.

More so reason one, in fact Ryker can attest to reason one because he's been scum with me and the first question I asked him on the phone (after dropping hella money baller swag style) was if I should just claim miller. There are also I believe two games where I've just claimed miller in my first post TMNT being one of them I'm sure.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'z jus don like teh cut'v yer jib.

You'z zeem cont-tent tooz sitz and wait in'tead of terking dat leadin' role wit what I's associatez youse wit.

 

[Furio Tigre]

For real though, should I give a damn about pregame or are you all gonna be intelligent about it for once.

When did you get dis attitude? Youse ain't always bin like dis.

 

[Furio Tigre]

Do you feel your forced attempts to play to a character will, in any way, limit your ability to play the game to the best of your ability?

Does your character ever limit your play?

 

[Furio Tigre]

I'z jus don like teh cut'v yer jib.

You'z zeem cont-tent tooz sitz and wait in'tead of terking dat leadin' role wit what I's associatez youse wit.

Youse don't actually think dis.

• It's bin less den 24 hours since dis game started. I's here now, ain't I?
• Youse bin talkin' about me since pregame. So youse not even basin' dis obsession on my play.
• I ain't bin a leading man in mafia fer ages. Not since before you were even here. An' again, none a' us bin in more den the 2-4 hours, so I ain't sure how youse formed an opinion a' my play at all.

 

[Kantrip]

Vote kevinm

 

[rid****ulous]

Swiss and Tigre reads kantrip?