Golden Sun: The Lost Age (of) Mafia -Game Over! Indy Alex wins!

[Swiss]

Kev speaks the truth. For the first time in perhaps two years I wake up and see good reads posted in a game

Vote wl

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[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Laundry, tell me about any read you got on Rake.

Definitely looks like you did.

Don't like Laundry already.

Vote Kevin

Why this vote?

 

[Kantrip]

Ruy are you actually scumreading me, if so why.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Just a lean right now.

Thoughts on Rake Kantrip?

 

[Swiss]

Vote WL

 

[KevinM]

Oh cool a wagon I like and a person who I can buddy for being good at the game to be lazy later and just pray that he's not scum.

Vote Washed Laundry

Swiss wanna totem at some point? Been Haloin like crazy lately doe

 

[KevinM]

If this Wagon doesn't hold I'm hopping back on Rake and never elaborating why

God I'm so good

 

[Boatchouli]

Laundry, tell me about any read you got on Rake.



Why this vote?

Well, since he neglected to answer me, I'll elaborate.

Mercy me though, I really don't like all this pregame stuff. Like i get it Like you guys want to go hard but Everthing is going to be fine. Really, it's much easier to get your reads like when everyone is present.

I really, REALLY don't like this Miller crumb.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I don't get the crumb, why not just outright claim it, since it's a lot better than learning later on a cop guilty. I know I was scum in wallgreens mafia fake claiming it but even as town that is the proper move.

 

[Boatchouli]

I don't get the crumb, why not just outright claim it, since it's a lot better than learning later on a cop guilty. I know I was scum in wallgreens mafia fake claiming it but even as town that is the proper move.

Crumbing it lets you waste a cop investigation still and stands to benefit only yourself. You only ever point it out in the event of a cop claim against you while keeping the option of never claiming it on the board.

 

[Boatchouli]

Hi Kev. Sift please.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Crumbing it lets you waste a cop investigation still and stands to benefit only yourself. You only ever point it out in the event of a cop claim against you while keeping the option of never claiming it on the board.

Coolio.

Thoughts on Laundry, I feel like he is posting...empty.

Hard to put into words. Something is off from his first entrance post when the game started. Thoughts on this?

Not seeing he Rake hate atm, nothing is screaming scum to me off hand.

Still leaning Kantrip scum over town, but I'm not sold on him being scum with my other picks in mind.

 

[Boatchouli]

Aight, I'm here for the moment.

Kantrip is really bad. Like, really, really bad. But his play is still scummy. I just am not completely convinced of his scumminess yet. I'm not playing the "let's find scummies before the game even starts" game, that's chibo-level horse****, but his actions in pregame are peculiar to say the least and fairly scummy.

That said, despite his weird inconsistencies in his actions, I do remember Kantplay being ****ty gambit guy from like a year ago so pulling a ****ty gambit and then panicking when it fails doesn't seem too out-of-character for him. It's not a pass for his play but it's definitely something to stop me from jumping straight on the lynch wagon.

Adumb's defense of it was horse****. "I've seen him do this as town all the time radarada he's badtown, ignore him" is bad and he should feel bad. Even if this is a dumb vs. scum case, he needs to flesh it out a lot more than he did and a few posts in pregame (I'mma keep stressing this guys, pregame means jack **** to me) are definitely not enough to make that call, not in a case like this. DumbA strikes again, I suppose.

I have no read on IR for it though. Typical Gheb is typical. Salt levels too strong with a strong dose of tunnel and he even cut the explanations for it. If that's not cookie cutter, I-haven't-changed-how-I-play-in-3-years Gheb, I don't know what is.

First, paragraph is legit.

Second paragraph is terrible and ruins the first paragraph because it removes all commitment to the read.

Third paragraph is hella legit. Adum probably has the single worst post in the game sans that miller crumb. However, I don't like the stress that pregame means nothing.

Fourth paragraph is dumb as ****. Shots at Gheb for no better reason than to empty chambers in his revolver.



I haven't had an issue with any of his other posts that I remember. This is the one that comes to mind when I think of WL. Overall, I don't like him, but at the moment, I would much rather kill Kev or kill Kantrip. If Kantrip flips scum, look at Laundry. If Kantrip flips town, look at Adum.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Gheb pushing me really hard is iffy to me.

Saying "you're the exception to this" is once more an insuffient explanation. Why is my push iffy? Why is the push of others not?

@Gheb: The reason I made all the yellow text shenanigans was to make people more likely to buy into the stance actually being real. I couldn't do it the exact same way I've been doing it every game. With 2 stances I call "jokes" and one I pre-face with THIS IS SUPER SERIOUS AND NOT A JOKE, the third stance will be likely to catch everyone's attention, by contrast.

This still doesn't explain anything. If the whole read was nothing but a joke anyway, why would you want that much attention drawn to it? And if you wanted people to buy into it you had no reason to "admit" it was a joke so soon - you already admited it after the very first call-out. Doesn't look like you wanted people to buy into it all that much if you don't even try to convince them.

 

[Swiss]

I really, REALLY don't like this Miller crumb.

This is of note.

Kev?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

The only thing worth any space in my notes is the fact Gheb went out of his way to point out how good a point Kevmo made, and then to add a tack-onish point , being "It's not what he's doing, it's how he's responding". Why did Gheb need to pat Kevmo on the back ? Obviously Kevmo knew he was making a good point, or else he wouldn't have made it.

Pointing out a good read as such an compounding on it to back my push up is "patting one's back" now? If that's the case then you can never agree with anyone ever without "patting his back". Also, if this is worth the space in your notes then I should probably remind you that nearly the same scenario came to pass in Ryu's Toonami Mafia where Kevin immediately spotted BSP as scum and IR immediately presented the case to support it, after seeing that Kevin was probably right. What you falsely interpret as Gheb "patting Kevmo's back" is simply both of them being actually good at this game in reality. That might look like "patting one's back" in the eyes of a mere mortal, I guess.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Laundry wagon is OK though. He feels kind of buddy-buddy towards Gheb which is akin to his play in upick Pokemafia. Ryu also has a point that his posts are empty. But Kantrip needs to die like now.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

But you haven't presented a case to support it.

The most you've done is add like, maybe 2 points to the Kantrip wagon that I can recall.

And sometimes, it takes a mortal, to slay a god.

 

[rid****ulous]

You see, this is my point.

I take this as both a joke AND a jab at my style because you have nothing to back it up.

Oh and I deffo did this in Dining Philosoper's too, that's where I was town and RR was scum (but tbh the pressure was still not a legit read, it's how he responds to it that matters)

So what did you get out of it this time? what did you expect to get out of it considering that you do it so often it's kinda lost it's shock value?

I'd like the people voting Kantrip to tell me why what he did initially is scummy over dumb, and how his immediate response strengthens that. In addition to why Kantrip needs to go to all this trouble ? Did he simply get caught out again, and needs to back track ?
I especially want Ri**** to do this.

Kantrip's not that dumb. It isn't the call out on Rr that's scummy, it's him trying to ease out of it when he got asked about it.

 

[rid****ulous]

swiss why so buddy buddy with kev?

 

[rid****ulous]

unrelated, rake should get on FB.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Can't, At work , waiting for file conversions to go through.

 

[rid****ulous]

Can you suffice me with your boat read then?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Don't have one.

 

[KevinM]

I crumbed miller because every time I've just outright claimed miller on D1 I've been scum.

Wasn't scum this time so wanted to do it cooler.

But I've never been good at crumbing, so I mean I just capitalized things... it was that or post some pictures of bread.

But yeah miller

Cop if you read this don't bother investigating me I'll just turn up guilty.

 

[Swiss]

But yeah miller

Cop if you read this don't bother investigating me I'll just turn up guilty.

Ryker, lynch?

 

[KevinM]

Oh cool Gheb is prob town this game.

Frozen sup?

 

[KevinM]

Ryker, lynch?

Hey look it's going to be the Swiss/Ryker continue to throw games show.

I didn't want to have to ignore both of you, I really thought better of you this game Swiss.. thought you could be somebody.. thought you could be a contender. BUT you're a nobody.

 

[KevinM]

Aight, I'm here for the moment.

Kantrip is really bad. Like, really, really bad. But his play is still scummy. I just am not completely convinced of his scumminess yet. I'm not playing the "let's find scummies before the game even starts" game, that's chibo-level horse****, but his actions in pregame are peculiar to say the least and fairly scummy.

That said, despite his weird inconsistencies in his actions, I do remember Kantplay being ****ty gambit guy from like a year ago so pulling a ****ty gambit and then panicking when it fails doesn't seem too out-of-character for him. It's not a pass for his play but it's definitely something to stop me from jumping straight on the lynch wagon.

Adumb's defense of it was horse****. "I've seen him do this as town all the time radarada he's badtown, ignore him" is bad and he should feel bad. Even if this is a dumb vs. scum case, he needs to flesh it out a lot more than he did and a few posts in pregame (I'mma keep stressing this guys, pregame means jack **** to me) are definitely not enough to make that call, not in a case like this. DumbA strikes again, I suppose.

I have no read on IR for it though. Typical Gheb is typical. Salt levels too strong with a strong dose of tunnel and he even cut the explanations for it. If that's not cookie cutter, I-haven't-changed-how-I-play-in-3-years Gheb, I don't know what is.

Paragraphs 2-3 are super wishy washy bull****. It's justification for a lynch without trying to be responsible for the lynch.

Paragraph 4 is just talking about meta without making a read, calling someone like Adum, dumb is just playing to the players you know think he is weak. I don't understand it, especially when you have him hydra-ing with a player considered good at the game. Also the pregame means jack**** seems like an odd thing to keep stressing. I'm gonna go read your posts in that after this.

Last paragraph also worthless fluff. Literally worthless.

 

[KevinM]

Meh only thing of note in WL pregame is that he jocks on Gheb's nuts for talking about Kantplay's backtracking on what he said. He also asked if Pregame is going to be worth reading this time, and then when RR gets called out by Kantplay tends to go nuts in RR's defense. I'm not sure what to make of that.. Could be null and he was honestly frustrated or could be a scum move where you try and play town champion and clear townies to get them in your pocket.

 

[KevinM]

Also one last thing before I leave, Swiss I would think you'd be a lot better at this game but if you honestly need the how to of claimed millers. If you HONESTLY think they're lynch worthy, lynch your secondary choice, vig the Miller.

BUT OMG HE'S DIRECTING NIGHT ACTIONS CLEARLY HE MUST BE SCUM THAT HAS A REDIRECT BECAUSE I CAN'T EVER FATHOM I MIGHT NOT BE CORRECT

Nah B just do what I say easy peasy games.

 

[Boatchouli]

Hey look it's going to be the Swiss/Ryker continue to throw games show.

I didn't want to have to ignore both of you, I really thought better of you this game Swiss.. thought you could be somebody.. thought you could be a contender. BUT you're a nobody.

All day long, Swiss.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I'll get swiss to convey my thoughts for now since we STILL don't have our hydra account and I wanna limit the confusion. I already see people referring to us seperately. Figured Raz would be pissed about either of us posting out of hydra without consulting him first but what's done is done.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Woah.

Ryker and Swiss agreeing.

The world is ending

 

[Swiss]

Also one last thing before I leave, Swiss I would think you'd be a lot better at this game but if you honestly need the how to of claimed millers. If you HONESTLY think they're lynch worthy, lynch your secondary choice, vig the Miller.

BUT OMG HE'S DIRECTING NIGHT ACTIONS CLEARLY HE MUST BE SCUM THAT HAS A REDIRECT BECAUSE I CAN'T EVER FATHOM I MIGHT NOT BE CORRECT

Nah B just do what I say easy peasy games.

You seem to be under the misguided assumption I detest you because you claimed crumbed miller.

It was your reaction, hence why I quoted specifics, which read false intent. Please attempt to analyse words and information before making illogical and derogatory statements, it will be somewhat tiring to have to deal with you also.

"Cop if you read this don't bother investigating me I'll just turn up guilty."

Is riddled with false intent. You know that the cop, if in existence, will read this. And you've claimed miller, of course you'll appear guilty. Why are you stating such things? Because it makes you seem reasonable, valiant almost. That post is nothing but an attempt to salvage townie points.

Vote Kev

 

[KevinM]

Have you seen the average townie player on SWF?

I've seen them investigate clears. Why wouldn't I implicitly state not to investigate a wasted investigation.

Hell just look at BIM and look at those cops.

You're read on me is wrong and you should feel bad.

You seem to be under the misguided assumption I detest you because you're pushing a vote on me.

It is the fact that you're wrong, hence I have to deal with this tiresome easy lane push from two vocal players who are once again trying to put the town into an early detrimental position.

 

[rid****ulous]

Hey look it's going to be the Swiss/Ryker continue to throw games show.

I didn't want to have to ignore both of you, I really thought better of you this game Swiss.. thought you could be somebody.. thought you could be a contender. BUT you're a nobody.

Why you flipping at swiss at the mere mention of him finding you scummy when you were all buddy with him earlier? Dislike. Unvote Vote Kevmo

Woah.

Ryker and Swiss agreeing.

The world is ending

Why is this a bad thing?

 

[rid****ulous]

Hell just look at BIM and look at those cops.

Would you say any of the players here are so stupid as to do something like what BW did in BIM, where there aren't suc h easy mechanical clears to get kev?
If so, who?

 

[Swiss]

That doesn't even attempt to navigate around half of what I said.

"You're read on me is wrong and you should feel bad." is empty content.

"It is the fact that you're wrong, hence I have to deal with this tiresome easy lane push from two vocal players who are once again trying to put the town into an early detrimental position." Is also empty content. Ryker and I play always to our factions advantage. You cannot deny our ability, effectiveness or track records.

You would help your situation somewhat, if you threw less mud and applied more reason.

 

[rid****ulous]

RR is kev scum?