Golden Sun: The Lost Age (of) Mafia -Game Over! Indy Alex wins!

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Also, if Kantrip is the scummiest on your wagon, I am a bologna snadwhich, Inferno is 100x more questionable for voting you. Like wtf

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

don't like IR's 804 looking back at it, he's not really arguing against being scum, he's arguing against being scum with BSL.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'm thinkin' IR as well, but dere's somethin' dat don't add up. I'll jus' ask my question now since Adumb is pissin' me off.

When you look back at IR's play, IR was definitely leanin' on moving away from BSL and on to better targets. It was very clear an evident what he was doin'. But da question is, would IR be dumb enough to set up a connection like dat? Is IR actually scum wit BSL and set himself up for problems knowing all along dat BSL was claimin' somethin' dat wasn't even a real claim? Dat's way too risky! You guys really think dat IR would do somethin' like dat?

It's possible he's scum of another type. Look closely at his 804, he spends more time denying the connections between BSL and himself then trying to dissuade the other scummy feels about him.

Kind thinking maybe gheb is a different scummer , it'd make it easier to defend the BSL points becuase he could deny connections with BSL with the same vehemence as a townie.

I don't buy his claim, while Ridick was being tossed around a lot yesterday, I don't see the need to use that ability on him. Plu wasn't it only toDay that they became a stronger advocate of Ridick, I don't remember them being at all convinced D1, in fact IIRC IR did not like Ridivk at points(I'll have to check on this ) , but if this is the case, that ability use does not add up with the context of the thread going into n1.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Furio's right about a BSL + IR team not making a lot of sense. If his points don't convince you then please take a look at the whole "IR moving away from BSL" scenario and ask yourself if this kind of play doesn't make perfect sense for a townie: A player claims to have a Cop ability and two sources - Ryu and JTB who both know the flavor - confirm independently from each other that the ability, the name of the ability and the character name all add up with the flavor to a plausible claim. I think it's pretty fair to say that a townie who doesn't know BSL's alignment would've had all reasons to second-guess that lynch. It just so happened that Rake counterclaimed a few post after that but how were we supposed to know? The last thing you see happening in flavored games is a name getting counterclaimed. As it stands, that scenario makes perfect sense with townIR but makes none at all if you assume that BSL + IR are aligned.

I know what you mean but my main point remains untouched: he could've picked anybody he wanted to and it would still not be something to base a read on.

Assume my position in this for a moment: somebody tries to make it look like he's scumreading you, looking pretty fake in the process. Then it turns out that that player is a scumbag. Suddenly people start to think there's a connection between him and you and consider the possibility of you being scum together because distancing mightve been involved. Of course you know there's no connection at all because you've never actually had anything to do with it. All that happened is that somebody who happens to be scum pretended to read you as scum to make it look like you've been distancing yourself from him. Do you understand what it means to be in that position? What would your argument be if that were to happen to you?

Not feeling comfortable with any of what's underlined.

Now to the bolded section: Yes, but he chose you, that will always beg the obvious : WHY ? Not to mention, Washed almost dropped you or may have even swapped stances om you post leaving, he had no verifiable reason to do that in the context of where the thread was at the time, you had been more active so, the focus of his hatred was interacting more. But yet he doesm't do anything about you, in fact, if he did drop you, then your assertion of him baselessly scum reading you in order to appear it as distancing falls apart, Why would he stop doing so ? In a linear sense, it would be much easier for him to come in and keep hating you, but yet, it doesn't happen, so when I see that, I think it's now him trying to avoid being connected with you. But why would he need to do that ?

This is what is got me pondering, because I read the underlined and I get the distinct feeling you are a different type of scum than BSL, who just got unlucky and distanced from a partner he didn't have

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Rake leaning scum if IR is scum. His question on the last page that is pretty damn rhetorical smells like distancing and he is setting up to vote IR on this page without actually doing it yet. Cautious bussing.

wat

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

6. Anomandaris_Rake - Town. I've personally liked the direction that Rake has been going since the start of the game.

In what sense ?

 

[rid****ulous]

... Pretty sure I don't buy that.

 

[rid****ulous]

Ir does your power last more then one day phase and can it be used.more then.once

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

Oh come come.

A little analysis of Gheb's claim.

Gheb's "role" can be one of three:

1 Shot. Clearly not the case since used it N1 on Ridic.
2 Shot. See above.
Every night. Game would be broken.
Target one player and remains on them 'till either party dies. Claim explicitly says otherwise.

We're off to the gallows.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Inferno read based on the.past page and a half or so

jump was grimey, but It may have been dumb-*** town grimey, he's not far off with his Disney Mafia thing.

It is similar, in that game Gheb got called out for randomly choosing T-block from a TownSwords wagon and calling him scum, the read was senseless and baseless and gheb got all butt hurt and sad because people scum read him for it. In terms of Swords, he had been calling him town forever and a half (for points on Swords death ), he also did other things like randomly ask people he was scum reading to create wagos with him (his connections and attitude never lined up with his proposed reads)

Don't like how IR has focus fired Kantrip when Inferno's vote in context is worse fro my pov. Doesn't add up, doesn't feel like a real read.

Plus were is the read progression ? I'm not sure IR's reads have moved in any visible matter beyond jumping into the Ridick-town boat, I have to agree with what Scylla said on this. What's with calling me null ? That read is baseless now. Feels like he's afraid to comment on me but why ? I think he can't afford to call me town in this instance, it makes him too vulnerable to admit it. And if I was scum with him, the connection would be so blatant and Gheb is not dumb to think that people wouldn't see him sitting on me and go : Hey look, connection.

Feeling like that may be the entire reasoning IR is totally avoiding taking a solid stance on me. My slot reasonably by now should be one or another.

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

Rake; see QT.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

k.

Also, culdn't we test this +1 thing like, right now ?

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

..and mislynch Ridic?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

wouldnt the vote count show he needs +1 ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

like we'd get to 5 and he'd be at l-2 not l-1 ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

wow i do not have my brain turned on today.

IR any final words before I end this ?

 

[rid****ulous]

Unless the claim is bs and I get mislynched

 

[Inglorious Retards]

I don't know whether the votecount will show it or not but I doubt it.

But yeah, my role is definitely confirmable. Get Ridic to the amount of votes required to lynch and see what happens. If the lynch actually happens then you can lynch me toMorrow with no hesitation - I wouldn't even argue against it at that point anymore. On the pro side of things, if Ridic doesn't get lynched then it confirms my ability as legitimate and since such an ability would be break the game in lylo if it was in the hands of scum it'd clear me. You either get a confirmed townie in the process without losing Ridic or you lose Ridic and get my lynch toMorrow. IT's win-win for town to go for it. I'm not really concerned about this because it's clear to me that Ridic won't die anyway and I'd be glad to have this nonsense with people pushing for my lynch over with.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

And yes, I can use the ability every Night.

wow i do not have my brain turned on today.

IR any final words before I end this ?

I'm town and it can be proven. What more do you want?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Ir does your power last more then one day phase and can it be used.more then.once

Don't see why it'd last more than 1 Day phase.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

every night seems kinda...broken

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

And yes, I can use the ability every Night.



I'm town and it can be proven. What more do you want?

Whoa, slow down here Ghebbycakes.

How does proving your (manipulative) role make you town?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

hmmmm.

I'm not feeling comfortable testing this that way at all.

Assuming your BSing we give you an extra nightPhase. Me no gusta

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Scylla with the greatest f ninja's

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

*EBWOP:

*of

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Also, if you guys *still* think I'm scum just take a quick look at my wagon:

Inferno jumps on it for the most worthless of reasons.
Ryker nudges the wagon with the thinest basis ever after not doing **** all game.
Ryu has been pretty sceptical of the wagon and then randomly agreed with it all of a sudden.
Ridic has never made clear why he supports the wagon.
Kantrip has been OMGUSing me all game and used any opportunity to discredit me.

Where's the pro-town intention behind any of that? Like, there's so much scum on this wagon it's ridiculous that anybody doesn't realize that S&C is the only player who actually has his reasons to push this lynch.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Whoa, slow down here Ghebbycakes.

How does proving your (manipulative) role make you town?

It'd break the game in lylo if it were a scum ability. Learn to read.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Assuming your BSing we give you an extra nightPhase. Me no gusta

So rather than giving a townie the chance to clear himself you'd lynch him because of one Night phase that he *could* use if he were scum? Wow.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

every night seems kinda...broken

Stop being full of BS. That is nowhere near broken.

 

[Scylla & Charybdis]

It'd break the game in lylo if it were a scum ability. Learn to read.

Quoting this.

You heard it from the scumteam first, folks.

Hammer.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Or it could save a scum mate in lylo with 2 scum teams

 

[rid****ulous]

And yes, I can use the ability every Night.

That seems.. Overpowered. ev

Also, if you guys *still* think I'm scum just take a quick look at my wagon:

Ridic has never made clear why he supports the wagon.

called me town, then says I've never supported the wagon when i said why i did and then implies I'm( as part of the wagon) scum for it. Rake can hammer imo.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Vote: Inglorious *******

 

[Inglorious Retards]

You guys are amazingly terrible at this game.

Inferno / Kantrip are probably scum with BSLslot
S&C and Rake might be indy siblings or something.

 

[rid****ulous]

See y'all in D3. IR actually town?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Congrats on being absolute *******. You've wasted your chance of letting a TOWNIE CONFIRM HIMSELF.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

See y'all in D3. IR actually town?

You're so very hopeless. Have fun getting played by Swiss / Rake.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

not buying it.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

If you were only neighbors with Swiss you'd be more mistrusting of each other.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Also, idgaf if you buy it or not. If you lynch a townie who has a confirmable role without thinkig this through after being wagoned by at least 3 scummy slots you don't have to wonder if you throw the game [if you're town].