Glad that Isaac was confirmed to be a AT very early so we where put out of our misery, unlike say the Geno fan base.
Well, actually I was glad he wasn't revealed to be an AT until the last Direct before base was released; that way all the visibility from speculation really helped his long-term chances. But the first few DLC characters made it very clear that Isaac is more of a base game addition than a DLC one (bar a new GS to promote). So in that sense the band-aid was ripped off early in the DLC cycle, but personally I wasn't taking the AT as a hard disconfirmation for DLC; he was just always gonna be considered unlikely for DLC regardless of the AT.
I do think Ultimate was the best bet for Isaac though.
Without EiH and with a normal crop of newcomers, yeah, he would have had a fantastic chance even with the current state of the series. But with a very limited number of unique newcomers in base and all the vets to bring back, he unfortunately wasn't as high in perceived popularity as Ridley or K. Rool (even though at least with K. Rool I think some other characters like Isaac, Dixie, etc. were just as worthy in terms of other merits).
I doubt Smash is gonna have such a huge roster again soon for the next couple of games, and there's still nothing new under the sun in terms of a new entry for Golden Sun, and frankly am losing hope for it. We'll get the GBA games on Switch, and that's that, and honestly... I guess that's fine too. The GBA games where the best entries anyway, and it'll feel good to play the games again after such a long time, so I really won't complain.
Well, a lot of things could end up happening in terms of the roster size, but as I've said in the general speculation thread, I don't think they'd try to sell us anything with a smaller roster than, like, base 4.
As for a new GS, these last however many years of the Switch's lifecycle might be the best chance of it happening, with Golf/Tennis out of the way and no confirmation of what Camelot's next project is going to be. If we get to the next console without GS, however, then things get more precarious as Camelot will likely be motivated to a get another fresh batch of sports games out. Hopefully they made enough on the Switch iterations that they could take a bigger risk with an RPG.
The GBA games on NSO will help the visibility of the series quite a lot, just as the VC releases used to do, though for me personally it doesn't do much as I am content to play them on my Wii U (and am more of a home gamer these days, which makes the portability less of a draw).
I doubt Camelot is ever gonna be up for the task anyway. I mean, in all honesty, why would they if they consistently can make Mario games? Mario is the biggest brand in gaming, it's a huge honor, and they seem to love making these games. The classic RPG game remakes seem to be entirely covered by Square, so unless Nintendo pays them to make a remake of Golden Sun, am not really seeing it as a possibility for the Switch anymore. And again, why would they if they can remake their own huge library of classic RPGs?
Fair points. It is questionable whether Camelot would ever have the resources to justify a big JRPG over the Mario-branding sports titles (although this is why several people have suggested having another studio work with Camelot on a hypothetical new GS). I also am in the camp thinking Square doing GS is pretty outlandish as a possibility. The main things that can help, though, are them having a strong urge to make a full-fledged RPG (which they might have, based on various interview comments that have popped up over the years) and continued shows of the demand.
But it is also important to consider, yeah, what to do if the series is indeed just done. In such a case where, for example, Camelot straight up says they won't ever make another GS, I'd still be asking for Isaac in Smash. Thankfully, Isaac's longstanding history of being on the Smash speculating map has legitimized him as a fan pick/candidate, so a lot of the work has already been done. For now, however, no such statement from Camelot or Nintendo is out there and so IMO the best course of action for GS fans would be to keep pushing both for a new game and for further Smash representation.
the first games where very ambitious it seems Camelot was ordered to make such titles purely cause Nintendo lost access to previous big IPs as Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, and it's no wonder Golden Sun has some nods to these games
Somewhat of an inaccuracy there. Camelot had a history with RPGs through Shining Force prior to GS, and their passion for the project was one of the reasons the game got so big it had to be split into two! I don't think the original conception for GS just boils down to Nintendo ordering Camelot to help them replace FF and DQ support.
I honestly doubt Golden Sun would be able to compete with the bigger RPG IPs accessible to Nintendo in the modern age
Also a fair point except in the relatively unlikely scenario where Nintendo is able to get another, bigger studio to help Camelot make GS. Idk if GS necessarily has to compete with the likes of FF and DQ, though, and I don't think Xenoblade levels of success are completely unattainable even with a smaller budget than the Xenoblade games typically have.
honestly, it's fine like this, it happens, and am glad to be able to play the first two games whenever the GBA app launches for the Switch.
It is a relatively unpopular opinion among GS fans to just be content with the series being finished. But to an extent I agree that if the series is just done, then I could be okay with that, though as I said I would still like for GS to be properly recognized for what it did with a full PC in Smash and would continue pushing for that.
the only IP am actually worried about falling off is Donkey Kong
Well, hopefully all the year-plus-long rumors of a new DK game end up amounting to something real. But it has been a while and you're right that DK is worth more than late-lifecycle filler. A big new DK game
is the sort of thing, however, that could help keep the Switch afloat for a few years longer, as it has more potential casual draw than most other titles Nintendo could release at this juncture; in that sense bigger series like DK helping the Switch last longer could indirectly give GS a longer window.
