Golden Sun franchise discussion thread

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

With the historical Isaac for Smash Ultimate thread about to close I think it'd be nice if we can have this thread as a way to keep the speculation going about whatever could lead to a future installment in the Golden Sun series and also just a great way to have somewhere to talk about this awesome franchise on this website. So gather forth adepts as we continue the talk about this beloved now 20 year old JRPG franchise and create more memories going forward.

You can also check on the latest developments, events and fanart through the Isaac's Allied Adepts Twitter account and r/GoldenSun

Spoiler: Links to past Isaac threads

Isaac for Brawl
Isaac for Smash Wii U/3DS
Isaac for Ultimate

 

[True Blue Warrior]

This is a great thread. Thanks for making it.

 

[N3ON]

Here's hoping the sun rises again sooner than later on a criminally overlooked series of Nintendo's. It's a testament to the series and the fanbase to have endured this far on little more than the dedication and hope, and yet still have a voice.

Much admiration for those who aren't going to give up until the games return and the series receives the attention it warrants, whether inside of Smash or not.

 

[Oracle Link]

I only played dark dawn and i hated all the points of no return in that game!

 

[Diddy Kong]

As I stated in the Isaac thread a good couple of months back, with the return of Advance Wars, I can very easily picture a return of Golden Sun happening. Both had similar big fan bases demand their return... And the Switch seems to gather strongly for both remakes, and RPGs, and remakes of RPGs. I think it's highly likely we'll see a remake of both the GBA titles at the very least.

 

[Pinguino21v]

I also have good hope, but I got disappointed more than once during the Smash Ultimate speculation. I'll believe in its existence once official.

 

[FlawedAI]

I could see a new Golden Sun coming out sooner rather than later, but I can't say when that "sooner" is. Hopefully it's within a year or so.

 

[ZelDan]

Howdy new Isaac thread.

And yeah, I really do hope we see Golden Sun arise at some point, ideally while it could still be relevant for Smash. Seeing stuff like Famicom Detective Club and Advance Wars come back give me some faith, but we will see I suppose.

 

[SonicLink125]

Howdy new Isaac thread.

And yeah, I really do hope we see Golden Sun arise at some point, ideally while it could still be relevant for Smash. Seeing stuff like Famicom Detective Club and Advance Wars come back give me some faith, but we will see I suppose.

Exactly this! If these games can come back after years of absence, Golden Sun definitely has a great chance to come back too. Especially now that Camelot has Tennis and Golf out of the way. They most likely been working on their new project by now.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Golden Sun is rad.

I own and have played every game.

I want more Golden Sun games.

That is all.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

Here's something new to look forward to! There is an animated versus series on YouTube called Smash Bracket and for 2022 they have Isaac vs Shulk. The reveal trailer they made is also pretty cool too, you can check out the other stuff they made as well.

 

[FlawedAI]

I love that they're adding Isaac but he wouldn't stop the boulder with the Psynergy hand

 

[dream1ng]

they said Golden Sun pic.twitter.com/CD1teqCPM9

— Jon Cartwright (@JonComms) October 26, 2021

At least one person at Nintendo remembers this series exists

 

[Kisae]

Hello everyone I didn't had the chance to say in the newcomer thread that it has been years of fun with all of you. Been here since Smash 4 Era and the lack of GS content back day was really hard. Then I went in the ultimate thread and was here for the rathalos Pic (remember I pointed that Link could be Isaac since he is silent protagonist, Marth is Like Garet with the "Fire" Emblem) and of course the girnch leak. All that to say even if I didn't believed in Isaac getting in I will still support GS and this thread is perfect to continue talking with all of you.

As many of you said I'm sure we will get something new with GS. Hopefully this will come sooner than later. Anyway count me in for being here ^^

 

[Geno Boost]

i just wanted to let you know you can vote a character for smash crusade
Having Isaac would be great there

Crusade's Community Character Wishlist is here!
Click the link below, vote for 2 Veterans and nominate 2 Newcomers, and submit your form.

Please note that this poll is to gauge player interest and will not directly determine character additions.https://t.co/YQJhrC4TQi

— Smash Crusade (@Smash_Crusade) October 27, 2021

I actually discovered Isaac file back in the old version of Smash crusade file mugs pictures which I had to look into alongside many others but I don’t know if Isaac is still under development since that version was older than 2015

 

[chocolatejr9]

I'm honestly more curious at what Camelot is working on next now that they've gotten Mario Golf/Tennis on Switch... I don't dare dream that they are working on Golden Sun.... but maybe? possibly?

— Stealth (@Stealth40k) November 24, 2021

Hm, can't help but wonder...

 

[Lenidem]

Hey ! Last week, I went into a shop and found Golden Sun : The Lost Age ! Now I have all the - alas so small - collection, and I will finally know what happens after this goddamn cliffhanger from the first game !

But before, I have to finish Resident Evil Zero and Dragon Quest XI...

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

I'm honestly more curious at what Camelot is working on next now that they've gotten Mario Golf/Tennis on Switch... I don't dare dream that they are working on Golden Sun.... but maybe? possibly?

— Stealth (@Stealth40k) November 24, 2021

Hm, can't help but wonder...

Yeah Golden Sun is the most likely pick for their next project, they've expressed wanting to make RPGs again as recently as 2017 and the success of Metroid Dread and existence of Advance Wars Reboot Camp, plus the success of JRPGs on Switch does help it's prospects.
Emily Rogers did say this at the start of the month so you guys can ponder on what the future will be

Industry insider Emily Rogers recently had this to say about Golden Sun and Nintendo's current position on it. Take any rumor with a grain of salt of course. Worth noting is since Golf and Tennis are out of the way Camelot does have some time for GS currently so we'll see-IVA🌞 pic.twitter.com/4QJY6sP1ul

— Isaac's Allied Adepts ☀️ #GoldenSunday (@IsaacAdepts) November 18, 2021

 

[dream1ng]

Yeah Golden Sun is the most likely pick for their next project, they've expressed wanting to make RPGs again as recently as 2017 and the success of Metroid Dread and existence of Advance Wars Reboot Camp, plus the success of JRPGs on Switch does help it's prospects.
Emily Rogers did say this at the start of the month so you guys can ponder on what the future will be

Industry insider Emily Rogers recently had this to say about Golden Sun and Nintendo's current position on it. Take any rumor with a grain of salt of course. Worth noting is since Golf and Tennis are out of the way Camelot does have some time for GS currently so we'll see-IVA🌞 pic.twitter.com/4QJY6sP1ul

— Isaac's Allied Adepts ☀️ #GoldenSunday (@IsaacAdepts) November 18, 2021

Well the inference here seems to be that despite Nintendo still caring about GS, they're keeping Camelot on Mario sports games since they're lucrative. Emily appears to be implying a new dev would have to take the reins of GS, which would mean that Camelot's next project isn't likely to be that.

If you want to look at the parallels to Dread and AW, new devs are leading those games as opposed to those who originally handled them.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Well the inference here seems to be that despite Nintendo still caring about GS, they're keeping Camelot on Mario sports games since they're lucrative. Emily appears to be implying a new dev would have to take the reins of GS, which would mean that Camelot's next project isn't likely to be that.

If you want to look at the parallels to Dread and AW, new devs are leading those games as opposed to those who originally handled them.

So then the question becomes who would be the ones to do the honors..?

 

[dream1ng]

So then the question becomes who would be the ones to do the honors..?

After Wayforward doing AW, who knows.

I just hope, should the time come, it's a dev with a strong enough track record. Nintendo's oversight helps but GS can't afford any more setbacks.

 

[SPEN18]

Interesting comments there if true. One would think that some kind of arrangement would be workable where another company works on GS but the Takahashis have some creative control. In such a scenario I wouldn't be too concerned about who is doing most of the dev work.

 

[Kisae]

If Live A Live managed to come back, even being a real niche game, then there is no f... way that Golden Sun won't come back.

 

[SPEN18]

If Live A Live managed to come back, even being a real niche game

Well, it's a Square game so not really the same situation. We're in somewhat uncharted waters here where both Golf and Tennis have already been made by Camelot for the most current hardware, and that hardware might still have a few good years left, even. We'll have to wait and see what Camelot's next project is going to be.

 

[Kisae]

Well, it's a Square game so not really the same situation. We're in somewhat uncharted waters here where both Golf and Tennis have already been made by Camelot for the most current hardware, and that hardware might still have a few good years left, even. We'll have to wait and see what Camelot's next project is going to be.

Yes I know it's à Square Game but à game that never released out of Japan and a very niche game jus comes out in a few months. This and the comeback of Chrono Cross too makes more and more evidence that GS will come back one day. I'm sure of it

 

[dream1ng]

If Live A Live managed to come back, even being a real niche game, then there is no f... way that Golden Sun won't come back.

It was hard enough to get Metroid back, and we haven't had a new DK game in like eight years... Nintendo isn't the best company to be equating to others.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

Well at the very least we know there is a market for lesser known RPGs getting remakes since we've gotten quiet a few in the last couple of years and Nintendo is on a streak with bringing back dormant IPs with the reveal of Mario Strikers in this direct. In my eyes Golden Sun returning is just a matter of time

 

[dream1ng]

Well at the very least we know there is a market for lesser known RPGs getting remakes since we've gotten quiet a few in the last couple of years and Nintendo is on a streak with bringing back dormant IPs with the reveal of Mario Strikers in this direct. In my eyes Golden Sun returning is just a matter of time

Square has certainly been putting in work on the Switch. Almost like the preceding four gens didn't exist.

 

[Kisae]

It was hard enough to get Metroid back, and we haven't had a new DK game in like eight years... Nintendo isn't the best company to be equating to others.

I get that and agree. But if Nintendo brings back Advance Wars after quite the same time he went missing like GS, Front Mission came back also, The World Ends With You got a sequel after +10 years more of silence. Then we have Live A Live releasing for the first time worldwide and with a remake after almost 30 years !!

I mean ok Nintendo keeps Camelot working essentially in Mario Sports games. But with all these rpgs and even others like Klonoa making his come back too. There is definitely no way one day Golden Sun doesn't receive the same treatment.

Be it next year, next console whatever.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Well, Clemps did a review of the first Golden Sun, so I figured I'd share it. Note that there's a good bit of swearing and adult humor, so I'm just gonna post a link to the video, just to be safe.

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[Isaac: Venus Adept]

We've been nominated for *two* Game Music Remix Awards! https://t.co/AePEU3n2VQ

Best Music Video: Prologue (Book One) #GoldenSun
Best Symphonic Cover/Remix: Adventure Awaits! A #SeaOfThieves Medley

Vote for us for Listener's Choice! (Vote Golden Sun🌞) https://t.co/vasvdXRy7E

— Virtual Video Game Orchestra (@VirtualVGO) March 26, 2022

Our friends at VGO were nominated for their awesome Golden Sun 20th anniversary tribute they released in August, do them a solid and give them a vote (it's Prologue Book One)

Here it is if you haven't seen it already, it's fantastic stuff!

(EDIT- THEY WON!!!)

 

[dream1ng]

So SMTV has passed a million units in five months, making it the best-selling in the series, up from the previous best of, I believe, 600k. That's always great to hear when a franchise exceeds itself.

But it's such a bummer to see other, often nicher or unproven JRPGs find success due to the Switch effect and have Nintendo ostensibly just sitting on their hands with GS. There's such a thriving ecosystem for JRPGs on Switch, if there was to be any time to roll the dice on the IP again, it'd be in these few years.

Unfortunate. :/

 

[Guynamednelson]

So SMTV has passed a million units in five months, making it the best-selling in the series, up from the previous best of, I believe, 600k. That's always great to hear when a franchise exceeds itself.

But it's such a bummer to see other, often nicher or unproven JRPGs find success due to the Switch effect and have Nintendo ostensibly just sitting on their hands with GS. There's such a thriving ecosystem for JRPGs on Switch, if there was to be any time to roll the dice on the IP again, it'd be in these few years.

Unfortunate. :/

Well it might be getting some good news

The library of GBA games they've tested for this thing is massive. Tested is the key word; doesn't mean they'll all actually launch on the service. Yellow = in the rom folder at some point but not in the leaked build.

There's one other game with evidence of being tested though- https://t.co/QQDBDcdAZp pic.twitter.com/lGSB4Mg7Gt

— MondoMega (@Mondo_Mega) April 18, 2022

...it's better than nothing I guess

 

[dream1ng]

Well it might be getting some good news

The library of GBA games they've tested for this thing is massive. Tested is the key word; doesn't mean they'll all actually launch on the service. Yellow = in the rom folder at some point but not in the leaked build.

There's one other game with evidence of being tested though- https://t.co/QQDBDcdAZp pic.twitter.com/lGSB4Mg7Gt

— MondoMega (@Mondo_Mega) April 18, 2022

...it's better than nothing I guess

Yeah, I'm sure GS will be part of the selection when GBA arrives on the NSO (and GS2 will follow sometime after). I just wonder when it actually will touch down, because I'm sure this has been Nintendo's intention for a while, so I don't think this leak necessarily reflects an imminent drop.

Hopefully September, when they typically add new systems to the service, brings GS. Not holding my breath for sooner.

 

[Kisae]

Well I'll be happy if it's true ( and it seems to be) but also a bit pissed also that it's only the virtual console...with all we have seen and everything GS just finally being a NSO game...meh.. like someone said above, seeing the switch being one of the best consoles to sell Jrpgs a lot. GS returning only this way would be sad as f.. Well we'll see.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

Well it's cool to finally see signs that Golden Sun is on NSO but it just puts us back in the same position we were in the Wii U era in that regard. On the bright side the larger Nintendo audience can now give the game a try which is a plus in getting more people into the series. Regardless the main goal should still be getting a full fledged modern installment in the series to really count as a true revival.

Also I'm doing another #GoldenSun20 for the 20th anniversary of the Lost Age which will take place on June 28th. Of course the usual, get some tributes ready and share it around

Attention all Golden Sun fans! #GoldenSun20 is back once again on the 28th of June to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Golden Sun: The Lost Age!

Remember to post your tributes with the hashtag at the times below. Share as much as possible! pic.twitter.com/mYi2Hibjhp

— Isaac's Allied Adepts ☀️ #GoldenSunday (@IsaacAdepts) April 19, 2022

 

[Diddy Kong]

If anything, the GBA app launching on Switch with Golden Sun means that if we get another Golden Sun, it might not even be a remake but a sequel to Dark Dawn.

If only...

 

[Jibunzo]

After many moons, I came back... to see the speculation threads were all closed!

But, it does my heart good to see this topic here. Supporting Isaac in Smash since Brawl's announcement in 2005... and it shan't stop.

Today feels like a Sakuraba-listening kind of day.

 

[Oracle Link]

I only played Dark dawn i really have to play golden sun 1 and 2 sometime!

 

[SPEN18]

I only played Dark dawn i really have to play golden sun 1 and 2 sometime!

Well, you're on the clock if you're wanting to snag them off Virtual Console.