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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.For the love of goodness, I said the exact same thing about Marshy and you call me scummy for it? Please tell me this is not the case. =/
Still reading the post storm.
Have you ever thought that, despite his ******* D1 shot, he's the only play who I even remotely trust right now?Ryker, what do you make of WL's basic cookie-cutter views of yours and insistent buddying of your slot? I feel like he is just trying to get on your good side with his over-the-top way of pushing your scum-reads as well and is trying to reach for reasons to make himself seem original on the wagons that have been presented to himself.
What? What? Way to just subtly spin what I'm doing into a scummy light, yo.What makes you of a July-WL connection to do the way WL is trying to subtly diffuse the July wagon? He is the only one to speak up thus far of the July case not having merit and actually the first to call it reaching because none of Swords/Ran/and even July herself called the case reaching.
>extremely fakeThis is actually where I can see the point to where WL is scummier than July because she at least responds to posts and actually tries to see the others PoV in the argument while still giving her defense. WL just tries to find a way to discredit the argument and inflate it into a show of "OMG U SO SCUUUUUUUUUUMMY" without actually providing much reasoning behind his suspicions. His posts come across as extremely fake, especially when talking about his J/Marshy/July posts. I do not get his JulyTown read where he is okay with her not being in the lynch pool. I also find his suspicion of Swords unprecendented and I don't get why he finds him as scum. He says because of Swords weird hop onto WL when he was actually like the main proponent to WL's wagon and his suspicion of Swords seems invested in a bit of OMGUS.
I dislike Ran's approach to this game and I feel like he's off on some of the things he's done but as a whole I don't find him scummy. I just dislike what he's doing.@laundry 544: you dont like ran? what dont you like about him?
Alright, lemme explain why it caught my eye:@ washedlaundry 559: "Your opening posts were the only thing in the game that did not involve LDR/EE/Mentos. It's odd and, like I said, against the grain of the game (LDR's shot and Mentos' reaction to it, then analysis of Mentos' reaction). Rather than embroil yourself in it, you simply just elected to **** off into your own world.
Yep, that's not shady in the slightest, no ****ing way."
**** the grain of the game. this town has ****ed up in so many ways already so not rolling with the general poor direction of the town is...well if thats scummy then i gladly accept my entrance into bizarro world. as for "****ing off into my own world" yeah more like "exploring other avenues while ee/mentos/ryker circlejerk" see how easy it is for me to frame that ****
Fine, feel free to. As shady as it is, I can understand it from you after Math Blasters.btw just wanna say the hate on the july wagon is dumb. when quickwagons form early in the game its often all/mostly protown players who are taking action to kill who they believe to be scum while the scum just let the game stall
I don't particularly even like delving into the WIFOM but I understand it and am okay with it. It's possible that you're telling the truth. It's possible you're doing this because it could incriminate KevMo and get that M/L. I like that it's limited the option to you two though.gonna split up the next few posts for the sake of digestion
iight so to start off understand that i am 13 hours ahead of you all (est) so obviously im often sleeping while yall are active in this game and vice versa. on top of that i have 11 hour work days and spend a lot of free time with coworkers and trying to maintain my relationships with friends/family back home. i understand im under pressure right now but try to see things from my angle in that when yall are hyper posting like you were at the beginning of this day phase i may not be around so this information is just to dispel future "lol marshys lurking" garbage (which i dont even do as scum but whatever). also since i usually post from my phone while yall are active (as evidenced by my earlier posts) its hard to respond to everything til i can get to a computer. i can get to a computer every day tho so just understand while i WILL be active i might kind of look like frozenflame in that yall might be waiting on a post/response from me but i dont have the proper timezone/internet access to be complete in my responses. anyways
lets analyze rykers thought process that me or kevin would likely be top candidates for killing macman. i actually can understand this from rykertown and am going to be frank in stating that macmans death (why would anyone ****ing kill him) made me look at kevin. before the day ended you can see that i quoted macmans statement of "kevins probably scum" and switched my vig choice from macman to laundry because that comment made me deeply second guess my hate on macman. macmans got a good kevinscuMdar and im often wary of kevins buddying (he does this regardless of alignment) me cuz im usually content to let him stay around til later in the game. he likes to bus his buddies anyway
why i have little (im not cocky enough to say NO motive) to kill macman and why kevin would
im assuming ryker believes that macmans killer was either me or kevin due to our past history in playing games with each other. but yeah when ive been scum against macman as town i usually dont kill him til way later in the game and/or just buddy mad hardbody. here:
m3ds harry potter: i admit this isnt the best example cuz macman was fairly new and a weaker player at the time. i killed him n4 and we didnt interact with each other all game. he suspected me here and there but they were never very strong at all and were just mentioned in passing. he was not a threat
mafia tournament sleepover: **** i actually killed him n1 here what a terrible example! nah not really because the kills blatantly differ (if you look from the perspective that im scum in this game which im not but hey since im apparently being considered as a play right now ill go indepth as to why i wouldnt kill macman) in that he was actively scumhunting (voting and fosing my scumbros all daily) and bashing the terrible d1 lynch there. he was a THREAT. here...he was lurking and content to let the mentos wagon go while not reading the thread
wonderland mafia: this is around the time that macman improved leaps and bounds in mafia...**** i killed him n1 here too. well that was cuz of the same reasons as above and he basically confirmed himself town by spearheading (again not doing that in this game) the lynch against my scumbuddy riddle. so yeah i killed his *** n1 but there is an obvious reason as opposed to this game
tv-allstars: i buddied him all game and kept him around til endgame. very different strategy than what scummarshy would be doing here
scum wars: i buddied him all game and kept him around til endgame. very different strategy than what scummarshy would be doing here
down n dirty: i didnt interact with him much all game and kept him around til endgame. very different strategy than what scummarshy would be doing here
so yeah. usually i buddy him and then just kill him at least in the newer games weve played together. he posed no threat to me OR my potential scumbuddies in this game (he never voiced suspicions against me and just listed some people hedve been content with lynching) which were the only reasons i killed him in those earlier games. he was also obvtown in those earlier games and while i admit i was the main person pressuring him this game i think its pretty clear that no one in this game thought he was obvtown
now lets look at what happens when kevin is scum and macman is town
monster mafia: kevin keeps macman around til mylo but macman deduces that he is the final scum. so macman catches him there
scum wars mafia: kevin is some ****tyass role (lol sorry tom) that basically enables my kill choices. kevin didnt have sole control over mafia kills so this game is null but am putting it here for the sake of completion
batma(n)fia 2: macman harbors suspicions against kevin from pretty early on in the game and pushes his lynch. so macman catches him again
unintended consequences mafia: macman catches kevinscuM again and helps lynch him d3
one piece mafia: most of yall cant see this but basically macman was scum and kevin was an sk. macman gets lynched before he could do anything
good times
anyway i think its obvious which of us wouldve killed macman
Kevin had just posted, and was still viewing thread.@ raziek 253: why did you specifically ask kevin this question here?
Yeah, I'm not going to think of scum teams much without scum flipping.Oh gross, I just realized that KevMo/J/Marshy could be a thing.
J, are you serious? Get back on July. WL isn't a play ToDay man.Ryker, what do you make of WL's basic cookie-cutter views of yours and insistent buddying of your slot? I feel like he is just trying to get on your good side with his over-the-top way of pushing your scum-reads as well and is trying to reach for reasons to make himself seem original on the wagons that have been presented to himself.
What makes you of a July-WL connection to do the way WL is trying to subtly diffuse the July wagon? He is the only one to speak up thus far of the July case not having merit and actually the first to call it reaching because none of Swords/Ran/and even July herself called the case reaching.
This is actually where I can see the point to where WL is scummier than July because she at least responds to posts and actually tries to see the others PoV in the argument while still giving her defense. WL just tries to find a way to discredit the argument and inflate it into a show of "OMG U SO SCUUUUUUUUUUMMY" without actually providing much reasoning behind his suspicions. His posts come across as extremely fake, especially when talking about his J/Marshy/July posts. I do not get his JulyTown read where he is okay with her not being in the lynch pool. I also find his suspicion of Swords unprecendented and I don't get why he finds him as scum. He says because of Swords weird hop onto WL when he was actually like the main proponent to WL's wagon and his suspicion of Swords seems invested in a bit of OMGUS.
His last post didn't even address what I'm talking about which is more than important to him. I don't know if he's covered it elsewhere. As of now, he can go before Marshy.Yeah, I'm not going to think of scum teams much without scum flipping.
Also, if J/Marshy flipped town, I'd lynch July right after wards, not Raz. That's if we lynched one of those two. I'm re-reading to decide who'll go ToDay.
But tell me, why are you voting KevinM tho? What did you see?
Fine, but later. I'm on Campus right now.Raz, sit down and play the game. If you're not ****ing scum, work with me and read this damn day phase.
If you are, keep going, you're in line to die.
There is a really key difference in this game and those.gonna split up the next few posts for the sake of digestion
iight so to start off understand that i am 13 hours ahead of you all (est) so obviously im often sleeping while yall are active in this game and vice versa. on top of that i have 11 hour work days and spend a lot of free time with coworkers and trying to maintain my relationships with friends/family back home. i understand im under pressure right now but try to see things from my angle in that when yall are hyper posting like you were at the beginning of this day phase i may not be around so this information is just to dispel future "lol marshys lurking" garbage (which i dont even do as scum but whatever). also since i usually post from my phone while yall are active (as evidenced by my earlier posts) its hard to respond to everything til i can get to a computer. i can get to a computer every day tho so just understand while i WILL be active i might kind of look like frozenflame in that yall might be waiting on a post/response from me but i dont have the proper timezone/internet access to be complete in my responses. anyways
lets analyze rykers thought process that me or kevin would likely be top candidates for killing macman. i actually can understand this from rykertown and am going to be frank in stating that macmans death (why would anyone ****ing kill him) made me look at kevin. before the day ended you can see that i quoted macmans statement of "kevins probably scum" and switched my vig choice from macman to laundry because that comment made me deeply second guess my hate on macman. macmans got a good kevinscuMdar and im often wary of kevins buddying (he does this regardless of alignment) me cuz im usually content to let him stay around til later in the game. he likes to bus his buddies anyway
why i have little (im not cocky enough to say NO motive) to kill macman and why kevin would
im assuming ryker believes that macmans killer was either me or kevin due to our past history in playing games with each other. but yeah when ive been scum against macman as town i usually dont kill him til way later in the game and/or just buddy mad hardbody. here:
m3ds harry potter: i admit this isnt the best example cuz macman was fairly new and a weaker player at the time. i killed him n4 and we didnt interact with each other all game. he suspected me here and there but they were never very strong at all and were just mentioned in passing. he was not a threat
mafia tournament sleepover: **** i actually killed him n1 here what a terrible example! nah not really because the kills blatantly differ (if you look from the perspective that im scum in this game which im not but hey since im apparently being considered as a play right now ill go indepth as to why i wouldnt kill macman) in that he was actively scumhunting (voting and fosing my scumbros all daily) and bashing the terrible d1 lynch there. he was a THREAT. here...he was lurking and content to let the mentos wagon go while not reading the thread
wonderland mafia: this is around the time that macman improved leaps and bounds in mafia...**** i killed him n1 here too. well that was cuz of the same reasons as above and he basically confirmed himself town by spearheading (again not doing that in this game) the lynch against my scumbuddy riddle. so yeah i killed his *** n1 but there is an obvious reason as opposed to this game
tv-allstars: i buddied him all game and kept him around til endgame. very different strategy than what scummarshy would be doing here
scum wars: i buddied him all game and kept him around til endgame. very different strategy than what scummarshy would be doing here
down n dirty: i didnt interact with him much all game and kept him around til endgame. very different strategy than what scummarshy would be doing here
so yeah. usually i buddy him and then just kill him at least in the newer games weve played together. he posed no threat to me OR my potential scumbuddies in this game (he never voiced suspicions against me and just listed some people hedve been content with lynching) which were the only reasons i killed him in those earlier games. he was also obvtown in those earlier games and while i admit i was the main person pressuring him this game i think its pretty clear that no one in this game thought he was obvtown
now lets look at what happens when kevin is scum and macman is town
monster mafia: kevin keeps macman around til mylo but macman deduces that he is the final scum. so macman catches him there
scum wars mafia: kevin is some ****tyass role (lol sorry tom) that basically enables my kill choices. kevin didnt have sole control over mafia kills so this game is null but am putting it here for the sake of completion
batma(n)fia 2: macman harbors suspicions against kevin from pretty early on in the game and pushes his lynch. so macman catches him again
unintended consequences mafia: macman catches kevinscuM again and helps lynch him d3
one piece mafia: most of yall cant see this but basically macman was scum and kevin was an sk. macman gets lynched before he could do anything
good times
anyway i think its obvious which of us wouldve killed macman
Ran, get interested in Kevin. My PoE leaves him and Marshy to be confirmed as at least one scum if not both, which also makes sense given that they chose less threatening Macman over the other one of the two.Mmm, I'm not convinced. I'm not interested in Kevin until this J/Marshy/July situation is situated.
I know you aren't asking me, I'm telling you I don't want to lynch Raz before July.
I have only skimmed Marshy's post btw, I'll read it further later. I'm going to play minecraft.
I was wrong, tbh. I thought he was town and the first post you made on the subject was enlightening.heres a question for ranmaru/ryker (dont care to read your posts anymore scumlaundry): why the **** do you guys think kevin is protown? lets please take a look at his posts. im skipping his first few posts which were just confirmation and a declaration of vla
I mentioned myself previously for the benefit of other players, but I didn't actually think you'd give me that much credit. Yeah, I could've done it, but I didn't and I will GLADLY throw myself into the circle of you, me, and Kevin and say there's at least one scum there.ryker 577: i put july at -1 cuz i dont care if she dies and dont feel like waiting half a week for kevin to post
"Do you really think that anyone currently alive other than you and Kevin would kill Macman with the threat level he presented?"
i could see you doing it but youre not a play today. i dont dispute that me or kevin being the killer is rational. laundrys been my favorite choice since d1 and i hate the fact that his ****ing wagon failed for a protown player. still wanna kill im
10 points from Gryffindor.and now everyones following ryker despite a 1-shot vig being completely null in terms of alignment with a poor d1 shot and pushing a mislynch and now pushing me when im not scum
i agree that hes not a play...today. but i mean ****
Laundry reads well to me and, while he agrees with me, he looks at the game in a very similar way as I do, so when I point things out, I expect him to agree.Ryker, what do you make of WL's basic cookie-cutter views of yours and insistent buddying of your slot? I feel like he is just trying to get on your good side with his over-the-top way of pushing your scum-reads as well and is trying to reach for reasons to make himself seem original on the wagons that have been presented to himself.
You know what? I trust his opinion on it and asked him to keep going. J, NOTHING about that case jumped out at me as remarkable enough to bother remembering going into Day 2. That is a VERY bad sign for your case. The people you have backing it are yourself (scum), Ran (with his blinders), and Swords (hit or miss). Those are the opinions I value least on the playerlist, which is interesting given the player composition.What makes you of a July-WL connection to do the way WL is trying to subtly diffuse the July wagon? He is the only one to speak up thus far of the July case not having merit and actually the first to call it reaching because none of Swords/Ran/and even July herself called the case reaching.
I do not see WL-July as scum without both KevMo and Marshy being town. However, I haven't been as sure on something in a long time. If one of them is scum, then there's you and MAYBE ONE OF THEM! That doesn't mean that the other of them or Raz can't be scum.This is actually where I can see the point to where WL is scummier than July because she at least responds to posts and actually tries to see the others PoV in the argument while still giving her defense. WL just tries to find a way to discredit the argument and inflate it into a show of "OMG U SO SCUUUUUUUUUUMMY" without actually providing much reasoning behind his suspicions. His posts come across as extremely fake, especially when talking about his J/Marshy/July posts. I do not get his JulyTown read where he is okay with her not being in the lynch pool. I also find his suspicion of Swords unprecendented and I don't get why he finds him as scum. He says because of Swords weird hop onto WL when he was actually like the main proponent to WL's wagon and his suspicion of Swords seems invested in a bit of OMGUS.
No. We have him, he can sit. If I don't push Marshy/KevMo, then the July wagon has the potential to kick off again and it will be nigh impossible lynch both of them.Hey Ran/Ryker, put your vote on J. He needs to die today.
Go guzzle gasoline and then jump headfirst into a dumpster fire, J.
Gorf, do these two deadlines overlap or is one held after the other?Alright guys. I thought I'd explain the changed mechanic of this game in this post so it's totally clear. There will be two deadlines this game: one for the typical vote, which will last 10 days, and one that lasts 5 days. The one lasting 5 days is going to be in place in order to hold everybody's once-per-Day agent role. Everybody will have the ability to send any other player an anonymous letter through the moderator, so prior to the deadline, you must send your letter in the following format, as well as the recipient.
Ah, true, lost my wits for a moment. Not only that, should you die, I lose my chance on getting marshy or KevMo whereas J can be lynched amongst July, Ran, and I.No. We have him, he can sit. If I don't push Marshy/KevMo, then the July wagon has the potential to kick off again and it will be nigh impossible lynch both of them.
J is a dead man walking that a light breeze could knock off balance.
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DUMPSTER FIIIIIIIIIIIIRESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds good to me.I have faith that you'll get one if we lynch J today. I don't have faith that you'll get both should it be necessary.