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Glyph Muscles Proudly Presents: Mario Party 2 Mafia: Game OVER!

#HBC | Ryker

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I also didn't dodge the question, I answered it clearly as mafia shot Macman in my opinion due to game mechanics suggesting as such.
I have very clearly been implying that Marshy is the only player who would shoot Macman aside from possibly me or Kevin and I would only be doing it to frame Marshy. You, however, answer with a very ambiguous, "mafia."

You're spending your time discrediting me rather than responding to what I'm saying. As a matter of fact, you're going out of your way to avoid responding to what I'm saying.
 

#HBC | marshy

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bro we are cool outside this game dont get me wrong i dont hold grudges

but yeah this is just really bad

:phone:
 

#HBC | Ryker

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1. Lunar Disco Redheads (Glyph/Ryker hydra)
4. Ranmaru
5. July
6. Sworddancer.
7. Raziek
8. Marshy
9. KevinM
11. J
13. WashedLaundry

Here's the playerlist.

Again, the only person on it who I think would shoot Macman to frame a lynch is me because I'm the only person in the game who would push that lynch. That leaves you and Kevin as people who would willingly shoot Macman in this game.

I think Kevin is town.

I am town.

That leaves Marshy to be scum.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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July reached FOUR OUT OF FIVE VOTES required to lynch within the span of a couple hours of day start. That is ridiculous.

I didn't even know it had reached that point until July posted about it and Ran unvoted.
 

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Yeah, but I want to know why he wanted to quick hammer instead of waiting himself... to hammer like he said.

Unless you think he just randomly sets up quick hammers... for no reason???
 

#HBC | J

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I have very clearly been implying that Marshy is the only player who would shoot Macman aside from possibly me or Kevin and I would only be doing it to frame Marshy. You, however, answer with a very ambiguous, "mafia."

You're spending your time discrediting me rather than responding to what I'm saying. As a matter of fact, you're going out of your way to avoid responding to what I'm saying.
I didn't know you wanted names as to who shot Macman because I misunderstood the question.

Sheesh. You are so terribly weird this game. Trying to determine whether you are scum or not is insanely hard.

@Ran: I thiiiink I answered that but Marshy has been the main person to call Ryker out on his play this game and has been calling it terrible. I.E. Marshy is a threat to Ryker's thread control which would make Marshy a target for Ryker to attack like he is doing at the current time and like Ryker did to me in D1.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Yeah, but I want to know why he wanted to quick hammer instead of waiting himself... to hammer like he said.

Unless you think he just randomly sets up quick hammers... for no reason???
He sets up quickhammers so people will quickhammer.

Like, it's not hard. Either he's scum and wanted to end the day DAMN fast or he's town and he wanted to lynch his scum read. I'll say the former, he'll say the latter.
 

#HBC | J

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July reached FOUR OUT OF FIVE VOTES required to lynch within the span of a couple hours of day start. That is ridiculous.

I didn't even know it had reached that point until July posted about it and Ran unvoted.
Why are you making a big deal out of 4-5 votes on July? I mean you don't even explain really why you are commenting on the vote count but just doing it...to do it haha.
 

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Also I didn't even realize July was in hammer range either...

I'm glad I unvoted
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I didn't know you wanted names as to who shot Macman because I misunderstood the question.
I don't believe you.

Sheesh. You are so terribly weird this game. Trying to determine whether you are scum or not is insanely hard.
If I'm scum, I'm a daykilling SKiller, but since I pulled the trigger and nothing happened, that seems incredibly unlikely. Yet you want me ignored. That's so interesting.

@Ran: I thiiiink I answered that but Marshy has been the main person to call Ryker out on his play this game and has been calling it terrible. I.E. Marshy is a threat to Ryker's thread control which would make Marshy a target for Ryker to attack like he is doing at the current time and like Ryker did to me in D1.
For ScumRyker to attack. TownRyker can no longer throw around mislynches. It is getting dangerously close to LyLo which is that thing he's probably not going to live through without some more credibility through. Dat rampant paranoia.
 

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He sets up quickhammers so people will quickhammer.

Like, it's not hard. Either he's scum and wanted to end the day DAMN fast or he's town and he wanted to lynch his scum read. I'll say the former, he'll say the latter.
Ok, makes sense. BUT now that you say that...

July wasn't his scumread... He wasn't really enthusiastic about it until that point, that was why I was asking him that. D1 he said he had an opinion of July but never really gave it. Yet I don't think she was because he wasn't all that confident about it.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Why are you making a big deal out of 4-5 votes on July? I mean you don't even explain really why you are commenting on the vote count but just doing it...to do it haha.
What the flying FUCK!? Are you saying that you think having a player at L-1 when there has been zero discussion on the flip and there is a player exploring an avenue that has not been brought up previously! Hell, four players have yet to even ****ing post.

Is that okay?

There was no warning in reaching L-1. All it would take is one of the slots who hadn't posted to vote based on yesterday without reading the thread and the day phase is over.


But J says, "What's the big deal? What are you even doing with that?"
 

#HBC | J

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I don't believe you.
Too bad? Haha there is nothing else I can say besides the fact that I read the question wrong. I also don't really get the point of trying to guess who exactly would have killed Macman considering he was not the towniest and actually was looking scummy in the twilight phase of the game yesterDay. The way you want me to answer is the obvy answer of, the vets would want to kill Macman. I.E. Marshy/KevinM, inflating your reasoning for MarshyScum.

Ryker said:
If I'm scum, I'm a daykilling SKiller, but since I pulled the trigger and nothing happened, that seems incredibly unlikely. Yet you want me ignored. That's so interesting.
Could be a JoAT with a one-shot DK ability. It's not limited to just DK-SK, yet again I want you ignored because your reads don't seem real and seem just faked-fluff that you are coming up with at the seat of your pants. Until I actually see some analysis, I stand by want I said.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Too bad? Haha there is nothing else I can say besides the fact that I read the question wrong. I also don't really get the point of trying to guess who exactly would have killed Macman considering he was not the towniest and actually was looking scummy in the twilight phase of the game yesterDay. The way you want me to answer is the obvy answer of, the vets would want to kill Macman. I.E. Marshy/KevinM, inflating your reasoning for MarshyScum.
Inflating.

You're implying that you disagree with that. I want your analysis of who did it. I don't want to sit here and watch you dance around the subject.



Could be a JoAT with a one-shot DK ability. It's not limited to just DK-SK, yet again I want you ignored because your reads don't seem real and seem just faked-fluff that you are coming up with at the seat of your pants. Until I actually see some analysis, I stand by want I said.
You've seen NK analysis. How about you interact with it instead of pretending it isn't there.
 

#HBC | J

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What the flying FUCK!? Are you saying that you think having a player at L-1 when there has been zero discussion on the flip and there is a player exploring an avenue that has not been brought up previously! Hell, four players have yet to even ****ing post.
Ya know, the same could be said for poor EE's death at the beginning of the game with literally no discussion haha. Also since when are you an advocate for more discussion, you are usually the first, if not the actual advocator for QL'ing your scum-picks and you have never before had a problem with someone being at L-1. The problem is, its not someone you agree to being lynched so far. YesterDay there was a great deal of discussion revolving around July that also brought players like myself/Ran/Swords into a discussion about that slot and a connection to possible WL too. July can be at L-1 while you still explore Marshy.


Ryker said:
Is that okay?
More than okay imo. =P

Ryker said:
There was no warning in reaching L-1. All it would take is one of the slots who hadn't posted to vote based on yesterday without reading the thread and the day phase is over.

But J says, "What's the big deal? What are you even doing with that?"
I stand by what I said. Again, the hypocrisy of why you are getting so heated is very not TownRyker because you are reaching for reasons to get mad/angsty and I don't see why.
 

#HBC | J

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Inflating.

You're implying that you disagree with that. I want your analysis of who did it. I don't want to sit here and watch you dance around the subject.
Continue on to the next part then. ^^

J, what is your read on KevinM?
Null, no posts to really delve into and most of his responses have just been there and not really doing anything. Reminds me of RG mafia though.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Yeah it could be said for EE's death, except, EE's death didn't end the day phase. One could also say that EE's death means jack **** right here.

My stance on the matter is a completely irrelevant deflection unless you intend on pushing me as scum. Do you think I'm scum? Stop dancing around that too. But yeah, I've QLed people. You know when? As mafia, I contributed to it in Math Blasters. As town with a specific ability that allowed me to steal abilities in UTrick'd 2. As town where my second scum read would live and possibly never get lynched while I might die afterward in Final Fantasy Tactics Mafia.

Do NOT stretch my meta to try and justify ANOTHER PLAYER!



July being at L-1 two or more days into the phase is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from July being at unannounced L-1 within a few hours without a chance for anyone to come forward and help. Hell, KevMo could come out with a track guilty or Laundry could be replaced with a Watcher bingo and they would never have had a chance to act.





You are not town J and both of you will die.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I stand by what I said. Again, the hypocrisy of why you are getting so heated is very not TownRyker because you are reaching for reasons to get mad/angsty and I don't see why.
Mad/angsty Ryker is committed Ryker. You've found him. Congrats.
 

#HBC | J

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Thing is Ryker, I am town, you are just not smart at this current game of mafia.

Fine then Ryker let's move on from this, why don't you wanna lynch July? I've asked you this twice now and I want your read on her. Also what do you make of Swords jump on the July wagon after I was announced not dead to your gambit?
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I've seen NK analysis, by players who don't know that NK WIFOM is bad to delve into because of the sole purpose it is WIFOM. I've seen games lost based on NK WIFOM being an added reason for the lynch. I'm not pretending it isn't there, I'd just rather not touch it with a 16ft pole. I'd rather go for things that are actually concrete instead of the conspiracy theory of "The vets had to have killed Macman, it's only logical." When its not logical at all.

In fact, using your logic. A couple of non-vets could have killed Macman in order to present the current dilemna you face yourself in of trying to lynch Marshy purely based on Macman being NK'd. You have no evidence to suggest that Macman was killed by Marshy just as much as I don't have any concrete evidence that someone like July would have killed Macman.
They could. Did they? Do you honestly suspect that anyone on the active player list aside from the three players I named would set that up?


WIFOM is bad when it's wrong. Bad players should not use WIFOM. I am not a bad player and I can use WIFOM to make my educated guess.

Now play the game. Tell me who on that player list aside from the three players I named would shoot Macman to set up that dilemma.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Thing is Ryker, I am town, you are just not smart at this current game of mafia.

Fine then Ryker let's move on from this, why don't you wanna lynch July? I've asked you this twice now and I want your read on her. Also what do you make of Swords jump on the July wagon after I was announced not dead to your gambit?
I don't want to lynch July for two reasons.

Both you and Marshy want to lynch July and July reached L-1 unannounced and very quickly. The former is stronger than the latter.

I will not give you my read on July. What will you do about it?

Swords jump is irrelevant. He is town.
 

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KevinM reminds me of RG Mafia/ Bingo Mafia. Basically he reads as lazy town to me. (This may be induced because of meta, so we'll see how that goes)

Ryker, why do you have KevinM as town? Do you think he'd spoonfeed a lil more if he were scum?
 

#HBC | J

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Yeah it's too late to deal with this. I'm heading to bed and will deal with Ryker later.
 

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Stopped playing because I stopped giving a ****. Walked in, ******* shot already and immediately following that up was a guy OPENLY SAYING he did not want to play and then a case based on me that was weak, HIGHLY-OPINIONATED AND VERY MUCH SPUN TO A SCUMMY LIGHT, and terrible. And people bought it. Gog I hate you all this game.
 

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Actually, screw it, I'm back in.

vote: marshy

In Michigan, we go harder than Russians and wilder than Africans.
Alright. I want stances bro. I know you'll have to read up, but you have time.

And you must comment on July/J/Swords, and why you voted Marshy.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Die, J.

@Ran - He's Kevin. He doesn't post much, but, against popular opinion, he doesn't lurk. He provides you information in his posts. His stance on Mentos was solid as was the way he handled it. His reads have not offended me and I consider him good enough to read based on how well he reads the game.
 
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