Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

[Jdietz43]

John be my watson again, will you?

EE why did Glyph lie to me when I pointed it out in big bold letters and call me scum for something he did himself?

Explain why you want John back on the team now. Mrs. Hudson disagrees.

What did Glyph do.

 

[Detective Sherlock Hound]

@RR: That is one of the stupidest ****ing loaded questions I have literally ever seen, in the history of mafia.

spoiler alert I'm not answering it

Kiss my drunk ***.

Why is John scum after hkis post from the point he explode tp kme when he said "you sound like my mother" post screamed town ate to me and posts after that point were more prdufctive for me.

 

[John2k4]

Hey John you're a dayvig. One bullet, gotta be used right now.

Who. Why.

(gone for real now)

Orby.
Simply put he's the only real scum read I have now. JD's a "kill whenever" kind of read.

 

[Super Vegito]

John. What do you think about MurderBush?

 

[John2k4]

I haven't seen the shrubbery toDay, but He's town lean from yesterDay.

 

[Jdietz43]

Kiss my drunk ***.

Why is John scum after hkis post from the point he explode tp kme when he said "you sound like my mother" post screamed town ate to me and posts after that point were more prdufctive for me.

AtE is NOT a good reason to peg him as town, and he's done entirely nothing of note since beyond vote with no explaination... twice. Point me to a post where he has made contribution and we'll talk. Otherwise I'm going to keep pushing him.

PS: Oh god... go home Ryu, you're drunk. Don't try to play mafia right now lol.
From: Mrs. Hudson.

 

[Super Vegito]

I did it again. Bad MM! :<

Also, I would like to note that Veg apparently quick lynching inferno and attempting to lead another quick lynch makes me feel uncomfortable.

How am I leading another quick lynch?

I don't see how agreeing to one action being scummy means you have to lean scum on them. For instance: Your quick lynch was scummy, yet I had an overall null on you before night ended (falling from previous town read). Agreeing to one point being scum does not a scum read make. I was willing to put my vote on Inferno, however I could easily see why others might not be so confident and leave him null, especially after it was already decided.

His remarks regarding JTB's actions and John's behavior were of note. The rest not as much, just chatter and quick read responses. And I don't understand Gorf's post then if it's not a summary. His initial wave of posts was also not without merit, though slim. This is something I am not at liberty to say about John (therefore why I don't think he's the lynch for today based soley on his Inferno null read unless you can come up with something much more convincing). I'm also highly concerned of the fact that when you look back at the quotes originally condemning him, it's in fact you and Gorf doing it. I'm inclined to think this is no coincidence.


Confident in it, yes.

The underlined. He didn't even TRY to re-evaluate after agreeing. Since he was dead, he just let it go. That prevents us from getting a read on Orbo, meaning that's not protown to do. Especially when he is unproductive.

The bolded. Why were his actions regarding JTB and John's behavior of note?

What about the catch up did you like?

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About Meow Meow. How DO you get a read on her?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

What you posted makes Orby look like a scum.

I'll most likely vote for him in a few minutes when I finish checking some of his posts.

Suddenly plants shoot forth from John's ears and wrap around his mouth!

John has lost his vote for this phase!

 

[John2k4]

Suddenly plants shoot forth from John's ears and wrap around his mouth!

John has lost his vote for this phase!

What the hell?!

 

[Jdietz43]

The underlined. He didn't even TRY to re-evaluate after agreeing. Since he was dead, he just let it go. That prevents us from getting a read on Orbo, meaning that's not protown to do. Especially when he is unproductive.

The bolded. Why were his actions regarding JTB and John's behavior of note?

What about the catch up did you like?

I understand that, but I don't think it's a scumtell in this case. It could be, but I don't feel that it is. I see it as much more likely that he posted as null with mixed feelings as scared/bad town, then said "yes, it's slightly scummy" to your Inferno question while still leaving his read at null as he wasn't certain. Uncertainty is an easy quality to have as town, and based on people's opinions of Orbo he's about as experienced at this game as I am so I wouldn't put it past him to simply leave it at that. Had Inferno flipped scum, I'd be inclined to agree with you that it was more telling, but since he flipped town I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise in favor of more fertile scum-hunting grounds. Aka. John who has never made a good post, and voted twice despite this. Both times without his own reasoning.

The last two questions are one and the same. It's good because he's pointing out things he found, and having an opinion on them one way or another. One's that I can agree with and see the thought behind. It leads me to believe that he has a null on Inferno because he actually had a mixed read on him (he posted like 5 times before being lynched after all), and not just because it was a safe thing to do. Had he been determined to give out no reads whatsoever after the lynch was already passed he could have done so but did not.

 

[Jdietz43]

Ohman, ninja silence.

Chlora confirmed for Brawl.



In light of this I retract my current John pressure for a moment to rethink. (unless this is a scum gambit... then idk)

 

[MeowMonster]

How am I leading another quick lynch?

You seem to be pushing this Orbo thing enough to inquire the new kid on the block specifically about the subject.

Also, to answer the Orbo question from before, I find him to be a reserved, unproductive townee. From what I could get of his reads, they're safe, but not the "I need to protect myself" safe, more of the "I can't get much from what I'm being given atm" safe. I have doubts if I've actually reached the point you seem to be harping toward in my catching up, so if you have the specifics to give me, I wouldn't mind taking them.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Mod note: John is not silenced. He is merely voteblocked.

 

[Jdietz43]

Oh, ok.

Still.

 

[Jdietz43]

Re-reading Orbo's first wave of posts.

Hopefully someone else will be able to contribute soon.

 

[Detective Sherlock Hound]

Ok Jay ai'll stop til tomarrow.

 

[John2k4]

Ok Jay ai'll stop til tomarrow.

Sounds like a wise choice. =P

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Day 2 Vote Count 1


Jupiter's Biceps:
MeowMonster:
THE MURDERBUSH:
John2k4: Orboknown
Super Vegito: Orboknown
Detective Sherlock Hound:
Bardull: John2k4
Bananalama:
JTB: John2k4
Orboknown: John2k4
Gova:
Gorf:
Jdietz:

Count
Orboknown (1): Super Vegito,
John2k4 (3): JTB, Jdietz43, BarDulL,

Not voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline is Friday, March 23, at 11:59 PM EST!

 

[John2k4]

Hey Seph, I'm voteblocked.

 

[Super Vegito]

Alright JD. I still have a strong town read on you. I'll take your word for it. I don't feel it, but you do.

Unvote Vote: JTB

What do you think of JTB just voting without even giving a reason?

This VB also makes me wonder why John was vb'd.

 

[Super Vegito]

Also. Tell me HOW you can read Meowmonster please.

 

[Super Vegito]

You seem to be pushing this Orbo thing enough to inquire the new kid on the block specifically about the subject.

Also, to answer the Orbo question from before, I find him to be a reserved, unproductive townee. From what I could get of his reads, they're safe, but not the "I need to protect myself" safe, more of the "I can't get much from what I'm being given atm" safe. I have doubts if I've actually reached the point you seem to be harping toward in my catching up, so if you have the specifics to give me, I wouldn't mind taking them.

This was not something I would have wanted you to have missed. I said when you were done catching up, not now. You giving your opinion doesn't speed up the lynch.

 

[Super Vegito]

What the hell?!

John, why do you think you were voteblocked?

 

[John2k4]

John, why do you think you were voteblocked?

I was mulling that over in TF2, and got a headache from all the WIFOM it produced. :|

 

[Super Vegito]

Hmmm ok. Why do you have MurderBush as town lean btw?

What do you think about JTB? If you COULD, would you vote him?

 

[John2k4]

What do you think about JTB? If you COULD, would you vote him?

I think JTB is being strange right now for mobile posting a Vote on me, then disappearing.
I'd rather keep my vote on Orby for now if I could.

 

[Jdietz43]

Alright, re-read both his waves of posts. I can see what Gorf meant now, he was stating his opinion not mis-summarizing Orbo for a setup, that makes a difference.

I'm more open to the idea of Orboscum after the re-read, and I'm interested in what Banana has to say since he triple ironic-voted Orbo without answering back. I'm still giving him the benefit of the "I would've done it because I'm bad" read on claiming Inferno null (because it really is what I might have down as town in that situation if unsure).My personal read is still unhelpful town, but if push comes to shove I may not fight an Orbo lynch. We'll see.

Unvote for now. I want to see where this John voteblock is going/coming from. WIFOM, or scum. (or indy). I also want to see MurderBush's thoughts on this as he was the origin of the Inferno wagon now that he's flipped confirmed town.

Also. Tell me HOW you can read Meowmonster please.

We chat and play games all the time together, so I'd most likely know what is and isn't her actual thoughts. Plus we think a lot alike. So far this is normal stuff.

 

[MeowMonster]

But you also failed to mention any other scummy things or people that I could have and perhaps should have noticed, giving me this sort of "maybe Orbo's the only one that matters atm" giving me a kind of skimmy attitude towards any other subject. Over-analyzing? Perhaps. Relevant? Probably not. I like to say things that come to my mind anyway.

Also, me giving my opinion does not directly speed up the lynch, but, by highlighting the subject, you could certainly be trying to get another to jump on the choo choo Orboo train and see how far you can get it to ride before it runs out of coals. It seems to me that Orbo was simply an easy target and someone tried to take advantage of it before it went away.

 

[John2k4]

Plus we think a lot alike. So far this is normal stuff.

Good. Scum need to know how to think alike to be successful in these games.

 

[MeowMonster]

my last post was also @SuperVegetables before my browser crashed thrice.

 

[John2k4]

Hey MeowMix - any comments on this voteblock?

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

vote: John

Voteblock was the straw that broke the camel's back. If town has a day ability that voteblocks someone, there's no way in hell they'd use it on John, especially not right now when a vote block doesn't do much of anything at all. I think we're all in agreement that its a scum ability, right?

So why John? Best I can figure, its to make him look like he's someone scum wants not voting. But then you'd have to wonder:

-Isn't there way better options than John to use it on?
-Why throw the power out there NOW, when if you kept it secret til closer to the end of the game it could be a MASSIVE gamechanger (suddenly town loses one of their votes, and can't push through a lynch scum doesn't support).

Thats damning enough for me, but also John's reaction just does not look like TownJohn to me at all. I see a TownJohn being confused and wondering why this is happening, not 'what the hell. Plus his most recent comment livetopic was so generous to provide me with just is gross as all hell. He's eager to draw people's attention to it and get their opinions on it, but what the hell could you expect to get from it on the surface level? 'Someone wanted John to not vote'. That's it.

Lets get this wagon train going.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Oh, another possibility is that scum picked John hoping to get the reaction I just posted.

But then they've outed one of their abilities to get a mislynch on JOHN. John had plenty of pressure on him already, that wouldn't make any sense.

So in short, scum is desperate to save John and is trying to throw us off his scent.

 

[JTB]

Alright JD. I still have a strong town read on you. I'll take your word for it. I don't feel it, but you do.

Unvote Vote: JTB

What do you think of JTB just voting without even giving a reason?

This VB also makes me wonder why John was vb'd.

I apologize for my activity, I really am trying to keep up and get a firm grasp on everything that's happened, but I just get information overload and don't want to attempt it again for a while. But seeing as the Day is going to end soon, I'm going to make sure I'm up to speed before the Night.

Kuz, I did an ISO on john and I don't like him at all. He points out posts from other players that doesn't imply he thinks they are scum or town, nor does he act on his scum reads. 351 in particular doesn't sit well with me because he uses the excuse of the game only being open for 12 hours as an excuse to not have a read on anyone when there was plenty of content to get a read from.

In addition to that, his scum stance on Gorf is gross, but what is really odd is this:



He's made it clear he thinks Gorf is scum here abd here, but the only person he's voted this game is...Inferno? And even for the Inferno vote, I can't find why he voted him in the first place, he just jumped on.

As far as who can read him the best in the game, I would assume it's RR from his early posts, but John's play has been mad scummy and it doesn't take much to see it.

I'm going to read through the bardull-ryker/inferno quick hammer again as I had just skimmed it on my phone earlier.

And his posts toDay aren't helping at all.

What you posted makes Orby look like a scum.

I'll most likely vote for him in a few minutes when I finish checking some of his posts.

Second sentence gives the impression that John is looking at Orbo with the assumption that he is already scum and just looking for an excuse to vote him.

John, I want to know exactly which posts you were checking and what about them made you vote him.

If Orby isn't the play, I'm more than willing to have JD gone. Please.

@Barbell - do and read Orb's posts. I did that before lacing my vote, bro.

Demonstrates that John isn't willing to put in the work to lynch Orbo. Second part at Bardull shows that John isn't throwing in his reasoning for voting Orbo and making Bardull look for it himself.

Orby.
Simply put he's the only real scum read I have now. JD's a "kill whenever" kind of read.

But why?!

 

[Jdietz43]

Good. Scum need to know how to think alike to be successful in these games.

Awwww he's so cute... just for that I'll leave my vote on you for safekeeping... mmok? :3

TrollVote: John again


To be clear: my last post made me seem softer on the idea of Orboscum than I actually still feel. I am still quite skeptical and have him as town. I'm not going to just opinion sheep Banana after what happened with Inferno. I have to stop doing that.

 

[Jdietz43]

Sorry, didn't bold

Vote: John (again)

(oh man, ninja's agree with me... yay)

 

[JTB]

Gova, when you join this game, I want to know your stances on every player in this game. You have a lot to make up for.

 

[Jdietz43]

@Jupiter: I'm glad someone else got scummy WIFOM vibes from John voteblock...

How likely do you think this would be as a tactic to get us to lynch a townie assuming WIFOM? That's the only other reason I could think of, but it was enough to give me pause.

 

[MeowMonster]

Hey MeowMix - any comments on this voteblock?

It's either some kind of mafia wifom to make you look innocent, or some kind of third-party shenanigan to make you appear guilty. Considering I'm tired and my head is currently being barraged by Nyan Cat, my judgement is impaired to decide which one I feel is more likely. My gut says the first is more likely, but I feel like there could easily be some opportunistic indies floating around due to all the chaos that's been bouncing around in this game.

Also, I like your avatar, its colors are cool.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

@Jupiter: I'm glad someone else got scummy WIFOM vibes from John voteblock...

How likely do you think this would be as a tactic to get us to lynch a townie assuming WIFOM? That's the only other reason I could think of, but it was enough to give me pause.

Incredibly unlikely. Why would they feel the need to tip the scales towards John being lynched when he was already most people's number one lynch target (if not first, certainly being seriously considered)? If they wanted a John lynch, they could have just sat there and piled on the votes.