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Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

Jdietz43

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Person who is in contact with MeowMonster, can you remind her the game has restarted? Seeing how quick the last day went, I'm probably going to be relying on you to remind her to check the site.
Yeah sure, that's fine (but it's not like the game didn't JUST restart anyways)


@Vegito: Why Orbo, substantiate. Those quotes don't convey whatever message you think they're supposed to. Explain it out.

Vote: John

John is still being the same as he was, and I don't know what message he got out of Vegito's quotes if there was one to be had, but he was very quickly convinced. After the quicky-lynch I suspect Vegito/John (Gorf?) scumteam. Especially if he was "scared" last night and there was no NK (speculative and technically null I know, but it's still there).

FoS: Vegito
 

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@Vegemite - I was "scared" last night, and ran away.
What do you mean?

Also, I think John claiming today is a step in the right direction. I had him as slight Town on D1, but I reread the game twice and I feel too uncomfortable with that slot. Lots of his posts remind me of scumJohn in AT; meaningless posts alongside attacking others (like his attack on Jdietz) without really pushing for them. I also don't like how he was given a free pass to sheep Ryker/Kuz because now he's a slot that can't be read.

Vote: John

@MurDerBush - Where are you looking toDay? Please don't say me.

@Biceps - Where's your head at? Do you think I'm scum? What're your thoughts on each player so far?
 

John2k4

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If Orby isn't the play, I'm more than willing to have JD gone. Please.

@Barbell - do and read Orb's posts. I did that before lacing my vote, bro.
 

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JD isn't going.

JD: Orbo stated that Inferno was null. Rather, he didn't give a read on him BECAUSE he was already dead. Also, he Noted that what he had done was scummy, but still kept him as null. Why didn't he do this? So that he wouldn't have to substantiate his read himself. Obviously he was trying to distance himself from Inferno's flip. Which is scummy. He agreed to his scumminess, and still called him null. So he agrees to his scumminess but doesn't put his NECK OUT FOR TOWN to say that he thinks that he is scummy. He then was pushed to a corner and didn't like people finding him scummy for ONE thing instead of the whole catch up.

Orbo = Scared scum.
 

BarDulL

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Orbo, why didn't you jump on the Inferno wagon? You say you had him as null, but there was plenty of content to say otherwise, so what's the catch?
 

Jupiter's Biceps

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Was viewing from my phone while at my sister's birthday party. Can't get drunk tonight, so at least I got to eat cookie cake.

Bardull I'm not giving you a full read list since I think its stupid to have everything so public. I WILL give you that you've done quite a few things that seem to do little more than be attempts to seem townie (ie, random questions to the bulk of the players mixed with reads).

Super Vegito, you're a stinky butt.

All good with John dying, still totally don't see the town side of his play. Orbo on the other hand is something I'm not seeing as much. I'd (meaning, EE) have to look back on his play to see if what you guys are saying lines up.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Posting off hydra, I'm drinking, but John is not dying before other players, need to talk to Joey not on patricks day but i got a wall i need to talk about with a reread.

I have doubts of John's townie posts but i still hate others before him.

:phone:
 

Jdietz43

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@Vegito: No, I don't really agree. Having a null on a player like Inferno is a legitimate stance to take, and one I'm willing to accept as a reasonable action from either town or scum, especially considering he did in fact flip town. I would have to see more damning things from him considering the content of the rest of his posts to assume it scummy enough to warrant an Orbo lynch toDay. I would also be peeved if I made a large post and someone summed it up as "If Inferno's town I want em dead" when all I did was call them null.

I'm taking into consideration the players who are bringing this up of course... who happen to be my current scum-picks were I forced to choose here and now for all the marbles. It makes the argument much harder to take seriously.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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I forgot to mention this at the start of the day, Ruy posting off hydra reminded me:

Josh and I discussed this last night, but the ****-ups have gotten a bit overbearing to the point where we felt we need to crack down on it. All hydras are mandated to post on their accounts. Failure to do as much will result in a modvote after this post.
 

Super Vegito

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@Vegito: No, I don't really agree. Having a null on a player like Inferno is a legitimate stance to take, and one I'm willing to accept as a reasonable action from either town or scum, especially considering he did in fact flip town. I would have to see more damning things from him considering the content of the rest of his posts to assume it scummy enough to warrant an Orbo lynch toDay. I would also be peeved if I made a large post and someone summed it up as "If Inferno's town I want em dead" when all I did was call them null.

I'm taking into consideration the players who are bringing this up of course... who happen to be my current scum-picks were I forced to choose here and now for all the marbles. It makes the argument much harder to take seriously.
No it was not. He agreed to my points of him being scummy, yet he still kept him at null. Meaning he could have said "Yes this makes him slightly scummy in my eyes" but he didn't have the balls to say that. There was plenty of reasons that incriminated Inferno, I don't think you can just write him a pass like that. There was no reason for him to avoid the wagon 'just cuz it's too late'. Gord wasn't making a summary. He doesn't have to. Does this mean you think there was good in his catch up? If you do, can you point the things that stood out to you?

Can you expand on the content of the rest of his posts? Also give your read on him. I didn't really have a read on him, because he was under the radar for me. Until that point.
 

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Alright bros. I am here and ready to participate!

I hate to be out with it, but there's something I find unsettling about John.

There's something I find a tad flighty about John. He's got a certain amount of vagueness to his person. Now I don't know if this is part of the way he plays or something else is not known to me at the moment. I would likely have more to tell if I had taken care to actually give a thorough catching up, but sometimes it's hard to sit through 1000 posts of people yelling at each other. I'll do some more reading tonight, and if anyone has anything really juicy to point out to me, go right ahead.

Now excuse me while I catch up a bit more so I can have real opinions to give instead of just filler to make it seem as if I'm trying to be helpful. Pardone moi
 

Jupiter's Biceps

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yo guys, EE hurr.

I've done a super giga powerskim, so Glyph's got the helm for now. Gonna try to read up for real tomorrow whenever I wake up. I will pay special attention to Orbo, as apparently that's a thing that needs to be done; I've been keeping watch over FFT as some of you know and Orbo was a PITA to read, but I managed to get his number there. Should have some valuable insight if I don't find him deserving of the attention.

Anyone that's on Orbo, gimme why.
 

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If you could point out any juicy posts that you know of that I can look at first, it would be muy bueno so I have a nice starting point. If not, I'll just pick up where I left off and see what I can muster.
 

Jdietz43

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John, Vegito, and Gorf goin' in on that Orbo... just saying. It would be a much more convincing argument if Inferno was in fact scum and Orbo was unwilling to peg him as such, but now it seems more like "Orbo was right to have a null on the unclaimed X time poster we quick-lynched, guess we better kill him".



If Orby isn't the play, I'm more than willing to have JD gone. Please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pevDObnV7QU#t=187s

(totally reminded me of this)
 

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Meow said:
Alright bros. I am here and ready to participate!

I hate to be out with it, but there's something I find unsettling about John.

There's something I find a tad flighty about John. He's got a certain amount of vagueness to his person. Now I don't know if this is part of the way he plays or something else is not known to me at the moment.
Why do you "hate to be out with it"?

What in particular was flighty about him? You can use broad terms, but not this broad.

What conclusion are you drawing from this flightiness?


Please don't mitigate when you're scumhunting :glare:
 

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John be my watson again, will you?

EE why did Glyph lie to me when I pointed it out in big bold letters and call me scum for something he did himself?

Murderbush, you said John was lost town yet you wanted him copped. Explain

Vegito, your reasoning for quick lynching Inferno is garbage and scummy.

:phone:
 

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JD isn't going.

JD: Orbo stated that Inferno was null. Rather, he didn't give a read on him BECAUSE he was already dead. Also, he Noted that what he had done was scummy, but still kept him as null. Why didn't he do this? So that he wouldn't have to substantiate his read himself. Obviously he was trying to distance himself from Inferno's flip. Which is scummy. He agreed to his scumminess, and still called him null. So he agrees to his scumminess but doesn't put his NECK OUT FOR TOWN to say that he thinks that he is scummy. He then was pushed to a corner and didn't like people finding him scummy for ONE thing instead of the whole catch up.

Orbo = Scared scum.
Biceps, here is the reason for why I am on Orbo.

@JD:

First off. Answer the questions. This argument isn't about him being scum buddies with Inferno. This is about him being shy to give a read that he actually was hiding.

You are giving him a pass and haven't given me your read on him. Also tell me how you read Meow Mew Monster plz k thx.
 

MeowMonster

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Ooooh, I like color coding.

In that I have only read like 1/4 (perhaps less) of the thread and I'm already jumping to conclusions.

He likes to avoid directly answering questions, and when he is forced to, he likes to use terms that can avoid any type of directness to it. Por example, he answered his thoughts on "Gord" with simply "abrasive", while this could be leading to something, it's simply a one word adjective, and never really leads us anywhere. Later he justified his lack of reads with the fact that d1 was still new in fruition, but everyone else was already throwing some pretty big reads around.

In terms of what I can ascertain from this, I suppose he's just playing carefully, which could mean quite a few things. Careful scum, careful town. My gut says the former, 'cause he seems to be experienced enough to not fall back on the latter.


I know! It's a terrible habit I need to break. :<
 

Jdietz43

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No it was not. He agreed to my points of him being scummy, yet he still kept him at null. Meaning he could have said "Yes this makes him slightly scummy in my eyes" but he didn't have the balls to say that. There was plenty of reasons that incriminated Inferno, I don't think you can just write him a pass like that. There was no reason for him to avoid the wagon 'just cuz it's too late'. Gord wasn't making a summary. He doesn't have to. Does this mean you think there was good in his catch up? If you do, can you point the things that stood out to you?

Can you expand on the content of the rest of his posts? Also give your read on him. I didn't really have a read on him, because he was under the radar for me. Until that point.
I don't see how agreeing to one action being scummy means you have to lean scum on them. For instance: Your quick lynch was scummy, yet I had an overall null on you before night ended (falling from previous town read). Agreeing to one point being scum does not a scum read make. I was willing to put my vote on Inferno, however I could easily see why others might not be so confident and leave him null, especially after it was already decided.

His remarks regarding JTB's actions and John's behavior were of note. The rest not as much, just chatter and quick read responses. And I don't understand Gorf's post then if it's not a summary. His initial wave of posts was also not without merit, though slim. This is something I am not at liberty to say about John (therefore why I don't think he's the lynch for today based soley on his Inferno null read unless you can come up with something much more convincing). I'm also highly concerned of the fact that when you look back at the quotes originally condemning him, it's in fact you and Gorf doing it. I'm inclined to think this is no coincidence.

Btw, JD. Did you say you could read Meow Mew well?
Confident in it, yes.
 

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which could mean quite a few things.
I did it again. Bad MM! :<

Also, I would like to note that Veg apparently quick lynching inferno and attempting to lead another quick lynch makes me feel uncomfortable.
 
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