Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

[Jdietz43]

Ok, finished my re-read.

1. Still see John as scum. Sorry Murderbush. He takes such measures to give indirect and unhelpful answers I can't ignore it. Plus after I continued to stay on his wagon he's been giving me blatant OMGUS and seemed way too happy that Inferno was picking up speed even while Bardull was directly beginning to act up.

Oh neat, that vote count.

Vote: Inferno

It's far too much to chalk up to "doesn't know where he's going". There's a difference between being lost and seemingly giving effort to stay that way.

2. I read Bardull vs. Murderbush now. Bardull makes my head hurt, and I can see why people got self-preservation scum intent out of his entire argument, he was certainly in it for himself. With that said I'm willing to vote him but retain the rights to silently lol if it turns out he really is just that bad at being town.

3. Ok Gorf, I'll raise the white flag with you today lol, especially on a re-read. At least I tried to pursue something I saw. There are def. more options out there more solid than my qualms with you.

4. Inferno still exactly where he was before. His last post mirrors the first.

 

[Super Vegito]

@Inferno:

Again, people thinking I'm bad. You think I would openly defend a scummate and Banana thinks I'm trying to get town points from this. First of all, these contradict each other. Second, stop thinking I'm bad. I'm town and I thought the wagon was scummy. Just because you are willing to follow every wagon doesn't mean that I have to.

My reason wasn't for you trying to shy away from from defending a buddy. My reason was that you were vague, and that you weren't stating who you thought was scummy when saying that the wagon was opportunistic. You were trying to fish for people on that wagon to paint as scummy but you couldn't.

#553

Here is the reasoning I gave.

#554

Here, you respond to my question about john. You state you saw his watson interaction with RR and his wagon forming.

#560

Here you respond to me about the reason why John's wagon formed. You state you didn't really recall the reason of the wagon, and replied with NO to a disagree/agree question. That was very vague and it didn't answer my question at all. I don't know if you were saying no to disagreeing or agreeing. And how can you disagree/agree without even recalling the reason? I didn't like this at all. You were trying to hand wave the reasoning of the wagon off by 'not even recalling it'. You stating you don't have an opinion on john also makes me wonder why you don't look at the reasoning of why his wagon formed. If you wanted an opinion, you'd disagree/agree with it, but you did neither.

 

[Super Vegito]

Or rather, if you wanted an opinion on John, you'd at least look into the reasoning and talk about it. But you didn't, and it shows you don't really care about why a wagon formed up on John. You only care about 'seeming' like you are looking at scum by using a wagon that seems like it is on a weak player, as a basis for your read. (Which was very very weak and bad)

 

[John2k4]

Ok, finished my re-read.

1. Still see John as scum. Sorry Murderbush. He takes such measures to give indirect and unhelpful answers I can't ignore it. Plus after I continued to stay on his wagon he's been giving me blatant OMGUS and seemed way too happy that Inferno was picking up speed even while Bardull was directly beginning to act up.

Oh man keep up these posts, JD - they really make me laugh.

 

[Inferno3044]

It was simular to John, said a lot but no read or take on the play, and even then some of the comments seemed to conflict in it. You listed what happened but no really take on what you thought.

I didn't say a lot. The game had just started, I wrote a catchup post and decided to take a slow approach with it. I have no idea why you think I have said a lot. People who have said a lot are MB, you, Jdeitz, Bardull, etc.

In Inferno that post is just an excuse to me.

What do you think of Deitz, Bardull, and John right now?

Deitz is in my lynchpool atm. The content he has given doesn't make me see him as town. Minus his one post about Gorf, he has been very sheepish. Then again, he isn't the only sheep in this town *cough* bananallama *cough* Combined with his trollish playstyle and how much he talks with little content in it makes him a fine fallback lynch/vigbait.

I wouldn't mind Bardull being the play either with his interaction with MB combined with whatever he thought of you regarding his role. I saw a lot of that as TvS (MB vs Bardull) with how out of hand he got.

John...meh. He's playing like I've seen him play before so I don't mind him too much. Would rather him not be the play atm with Bardull and Deitz around.

 

[Jdietz43]

Alright: someone with mafia experience needs to give me a concise answer of who lynching out of John/Bardull/Inferno would give us the most help from. I'm fine with any of these three as dead (though would prefer Bardull was simply vigged so I don't have to feel like we wasted our discussion time if he flips as "town off his rocker" Lol...)

 

[Jdietz43]

(lol at Inferno ninja trying to skew things my way and take pressure off of John at the same time)

 

[John2k4]

Alright: someone with mafia experience needs to give me a concise answer of who lynching out of John/Bardull/Inferno would give us the most help from. I'm fine with any of these three as dead (though would prefer Bardull was simply vigged so I don't have to feel like we wasted our discussion time if he flips as "town off his rocker" Lol...)

I need a shepard to tell me who to vote kthxs.

 

[John2k4]

To be serious...JD just vote who you think is scummiest. It doesn't matter if you are the first or fifth person voting them. Just go with your strong scum read.

 

[Super Vegito]

Jdietz:

John/Inferno is better than Bardull in my opinion. John and Inferno are actually scummy, Bardull was being a bit dumb and also outed possible sensitive info.

You can vote who you feel is scummiest, or who you feel needs more pressure. (I'm saying if there are 3 votes on one, and two on the other, I'd rather vote the one with less votes if I feel both are scummier)

Also, keep in mind we have to hear claims, and we will have to compromise if needed.

 

[Jdietz43]

Alright, I'm going with Inferno.

Vote: Inferno

And if he flips scum like we all think he will, I'm going straight after John. John's vote of Inferno seemed awkwardly yet conveniently placed, and Inferno's last post screams distancing and scum-buddying for an OMGUS on me.

Vig Bardull.

 

[Super Vegito]

HEY HEY HEY HEY

Inferno is at L-1 I believe.

 

[Jdietz43]

Does that mean claim timez :O?

(let me know if I'm supposed to give us all time to hear them out and take my vote off, otherwise I'm sure someone else could too)

 

[Super Vegito]

I think you should unvote for now. I want my other head to have time to post.

PLUS GOVA AND MEOWMONSTER HAVEN'T EVEN POSTED YET.

I deff don't want a claim until they post and give thoughts.

 

[John2k4]

So long as no one decides to be a wise guy and vote now, we should be okay.

But we have until Sunday. L-1 already seems a bit rapid going by that..

 

[Jdietz43]

Unvote

@Mod: Vote count! (I'm sure you were working on it anyways since you're already here)

 

[John2k4]

Oh Vegemite, you so ninja.

 

[Super Vegito]

I'm just saiyan.

 

[Jdietz43]

Lol...

Also I'm going to try and see if I can't hunt down MeowMonster through some form of communication to get her butt in here.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Unrelated but interesting facts: This game's got about 17 pages in 36 hours. Given the sheer number of hydras, I was totally expecting this game to bomb in activity and just drag along. Way to blow my expectations to smithereens, for now anyway. Keep up the good work, you make me a happy host.

Votecount incoming.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Also prods are going out to Gova and MeowMonster soon.

 

[Super Vegito]

Jdietz: Good man.

Mod: Good mod.

Also, I don't think you want a repeat of Time Travelers now? ;o (Which I apologize for partially)

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Freaking

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Vote Count 1.4

Inferno:
Jupiter's Biceps: John
MeowMonster:
THE MURDERBUSH: Inferno > Bardull
John: Inferno
Super Vegito: Jupiter's Biceps > John
Sherlock Hound: Jupiter's Biceps > John > Bardull >
Bardull: John > Jupiter's Biceps > Inferno
Bananalama: JDietz > John > Inferno
JTB: Super Vegito > Inferno
Orboknown: Murderbush
Gorf: Jupiter's Biceps > Sherlock Hound > John > Inferno
Gova:
Jdietz: John > Gorf > Bardull > John > Inferno >

Count
Inferno (5): Gorf, Bananalama, Bardull, JTB, John
John (2): Jupiter's Biceps, Super Vegito
Bardull (1): Murderbush
Murderbush (1): Orbo

Not voting: Inferno, MeowMonster, Gova, Sherlock Hound, JDietz

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch! Deadline is on Sunday, March 18th, at 11:59 PM EST!

Unrelated but interesting fact: Daylight Savings Time is bull**** and should be regarded as such.

 

[Super Vegito]

My bad Jdietz. Your vote put him at L-2. Even so, he'd be at L-1 with another vote. So feel free to vote him back now.

Just keep in mind when you do, that he'd be at L-2. :3

 

[Super Vegito]

That's a fair point, but it wasn't my intention. I just don't think Detective is worthy of scummy attention, like seriously, he's blistering Town.

BarDulL looked at MurderBush's post. He wondered why the Bush actually thought he'd respond to it. "Morons," he said under his breath. And for them to think that the former Marth veteran would reveal such privy information as to what gave him his Detective role read is pretty gross. Isn't this hypocritical? Why would they WANT him to out this information? Are they trying to make him slip, or are they just scum themselves, seeking as much information as they can?

He seems townie, but I just didn't like his vote on John. Even so, you think he is town, ok. IF your only reason is because you think he is a pr, then it isn't good enough. For example, Pulp Fiction, I thought X1/Nabe was a pr. Guess what? He was a scum pr. WHOOO. (I never outed this of course) What did he do? He lurked alot and didn't really give enough substance, and I kind of read him on meta as well. Bad idea. If there is another reason as to why you think he is town, you'll have to spill it if people don't agree with you. You see it from your perspective, but we don't see it from your perspective. You have to show us how you see it. If you don't, you'll let a town read die for being stubborn. Get me?

Basically, if your read is defined by his actions, then it is fine. If it is defined by PR speculation blah blah... I don't even know if that's a read. Lol. [I don't think it is fine to out PR speculation]. IF it's defined by connections, then you should probably wait a day or two to see if it lines up.

About the second paragraph, I don't know. Ask Murderbush yourself.

 

[BarDulL]

He seems townie, but I just didn't like his vote on John. Even so, you think he is town, ok. IF your only reason is because you think he is a pr, then it isn't good enough. For example, Pulp Fiction, I thought X1/Nabe was a pr. Guess what? He was a scum pr. WHOOO. (I never outed this of course) What did he do? He lurked alot and didn't really give enough substance, and I kind of read him on meta as well. Bad idea. If there is another reason as to why you think he is town, you'll have to spill it if people don't agree with you. You see it from your perspective, but we don't see it from your perspective. You have to show us how you see it. If you don't, you'll let a town read die for being stubborn. Get me?

Basically, if your read is defined by his actions, then it is fine. If it is defined by PR speculation blah blah... I don't even know if that's a read. Lol. [I don't think it is fine to out PR speculation]. IF it's defined by connections, then you should probably wait a day or two to see if it lines up.

About the second paragraph, I don't know. Ask Murderbush yourself.

I am not outing Detective (and will not) as either PR or VT. This is a misconception that people keep on bringing up, that I somehow outed Detective as a PR, and I don't understand WHY people think this. We need to drop the whole "what role is detective" speculation talk because no good comes from it. It was my bad for me to bring it up, I'm just so sure he's Town and it's entirely based on his play and his actions so far. The John vote seemed a little bandwagony but I'm throwing him a pass for it for now. I might think otherwise based on what happens, but for now, I'm like 99% sure Detective is Town. REALLY sure.

 

[Inferno3044]

(lol at Inferno ninja trying to skew things my way and take pressure off of John at the same time)

When was I trying to do this?

Alright, I'm going with Inferno.

Vote: Inferno

And if he flips scum like we all think he will, I'm going straight after John. John's vote of Inferno seemed awkwardly yet conveniently placed, and Inferno's last post screams distancing and scum-buddying for an OMGUS on me.

Vig Bardull.

What are you even talking about? Where did I OMGUS you? Because I said you are in my lynchpool and you are a good fallback lynch? It sounds more like you're getting mad as a response to me saying that and want me gone.

Does that mean claim timez :O?

(let me know if I'm supposed to give us all time to hear them out and take my vote off, otherwise I'm sure someone else could too)

Why do you wanna hear my claim so badly? The game has barely started.

 

[Inferno3044]

@Ryker - Can you teach me your ways? I would love to learn how you're able to say "this guy is scum" with no reasons and everyone and their mom follows you.

 

[Jdietz43]

Alright then I'm throwing my vote back up since he's fine sitting at L-2

Vote: Inferno


Idk when the normal mafia time to claim is, it was a legit question/comment. You're trying too hard Inferno.

 

[Jdietz43]

@Bardull: Who are your scum-picks thus far? Is there anyone in particular that you want gone and why. (and please don't say Murderbush just because you had an argument with him)

What do you make of Inferno right now? What about Vegito?

 

[Super Vegito]

Jdietz. What do you think of my 842 and 843? About inferno ignoring that?

Inferno. Respond to my #842 and #843 plz

 

[Super Vegito]

Inferno. why arent you voting?

 

[Inferno3044]

Alright then I'm throwing my vote back up since he's fine sitting at L-2

Vote: Inferno


Idk when the normal mafia time to claim is, it was a legit question/comment. You're trying too hard Inferno.

My bad. I took it as you actually trying to get me to claim right then. I'll just tell you that I don't plan on claiming soon.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Wow you guys post a lot. It's like I can't have a life while I'm playing a mafia game. Also Ryker is being such a sheep herder and you're all following him to his ****. Ryker just wants me gone because he dislikes me (at least as a mafia player) and consistently reads me wrong. This game right now is no exception.



Really brah? I ask you to be more active and you vote me? That's completely legit. What's with asking for a read on someone who hasn't posted yet?



Just because you like herding everyone where you want doesn't mean they should. You have a lot of charisma and I respect that. But just because you don't like me gives you no reason. Have you even given a reason as to why you think I'm scum? I saw your vote on me and a lot of you telling people to vote me.



You wanna just say I'm scum with no reasoning and get me to claim? Apparently that's how we play mafia now.



Two things here:

1. Really? You think I would take the devil's advocate approach solely to have people think I'm town? I know that **** doesn't work. I'm not an amazing player, but I'm not stupid. I honestly can't recall why the wagon was formed. Can you give me a brief reason to why the John wagon was formed? Preferably 1 paragraph or less. I don't need an iso.
2. What have you read from me? I've barely had time to post.



What is his post supposed to mean?



You really want to get the pressure off of you don't you?



So what happens when I flip town?



Again, people thinking I'm bad. You think I would openly defend a scummate and Banana thinks I'm trying to get town points from this. First of all, these contradict each other. Second, stop thinking I'm bad. I'm town and I thought the wagon was scummy. Just because you are willing to follow every wagon doesn't mean that I have to.



Have I even made 5 posts since the game started?

@Everyone who says they see me as scum after rereading - What did you see? I have no idea what you guys are talking about.



I hope you're joking about not reading Bardull vs. MB.

WOW, that was horrible.

Unvote Vote Inferno

 

[Dramatic Flair]

I think you should unvote for now. I want my other head to have time to post.

PLUS GOVA AND MEOWMONSTER HAVEN'T EVEN POSTED YET.

I deff don't want a claim until they post and give thoughts.

I deff think you're high. I want an Inferno claim.

 

[Super Vegito]

Vote: Inferno

 

[Bananalama]

I deff think you're high.

Nope, that would be me.

 

[Jdietz43]

Jdietz. What do you think of my 842 and 843? About inferno ignoring that?

Inferno. Respond to my #842 and #843 plz

I think they were very good points. I'm not sure why Inferno hadn't/isn't responding to that, the matter of John seems like something he should at least have an opinion on one way or the other rather than "waving it away". In addition he chose to respond instead to a question that let him talk about other people and suspicions, in particular RR, Bardull, and me (the vocal yet not concretely read ones from most of town), once again waving away John at the end of the post as a non-factor while not ruffling any feathers.

 

[Bananalama]

Wait was that hammer?!?!?!?!?!??!