Giga Bowser on Bowser's skin

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

I realized that Giga Bowser can't be footstooled, he can't trip and he even can't footstool people.

this may mean, he will never be balanced or playable

but, I happened to change Bowser's hitboxes into Giga Bowser's properties

Bowser Giga Playlist vid

from Video 1-4, the ledge attacks were missing and the dash attack
***I forgot to take away thick skin and the buffs given to Bowser on B+ XD***

from 5-9, I missed the Dash attack
*** Thick Skin was removed, but forgot the attack speed buffs...***

vid 10-12, I missed something else in here... the grab attack... next vids will use the right hitbox properties, the link of the Hitboxes are in this same post
used no AD during tumble, shield during dash dance and FF during tumble, Removed any buff that Bowser had, so to have Bowser Giga without any buff/nerf

might as well get more videos vs other Top Tier characters soon

why 99% and not 100%?

well, Giga Bowser doesn't have a Tripping animation, meaning he doesn't have Tripped Attack Stand, and Giga Bowser doesn't reiceve knockback and can't be knocked to the floor, meaning he doesn't have an on the floor Standing attack (this is in Brawl)

Bowser & Giga Bowser hitbox Values <------------ click this for hitbox properties of Bowser and Giga Bowser

Code had a slight and horrible glitch, gonna fix it

You still need the Hitbox Properties Mod Engine and Character ID fix for this to work


Possible Nerfs For Bowser Giga

Weak Skin (Almas) 9 lines
04001800 3F8CCCCD
04001804 3E0F5C29
C276967C 00000006
3C608000 60631800
8004C690 2C00000B
40820014 C0030000
EC210032 C0030004
EC21002A 3C6080AD
60000000 00000000
(side effect of Thick Skin) Damagetaken(1.11) + .14 = new damage taken
Samus Charged shot on anyone 26% damage
Samus Charged shot on Thick skin(Bowser) 23% damage
Samus Charged shot on Weak Skin(Bowser Giga) 29% damage

Weak Shell (Almas) 7 lines
04001808 3F8CCCCD
C281D038 00000005
3FE08000 3BFF1808
801DF5AC 2C00000B
4082000C C2DF0000
EC360072 4E800020
60000000 00000000
Recieve 10% more knockback

both of them will make him super weak on defense, maybe we should apply one of them, for testings

** I repeat, this is Bowser with all Giga Bowser's hitbox properties, and their original values were preserved**

and with this I want to tell a good nerf to make Bowser Giga to make him more standar rather than broken, but this will make Bowser not be 100% giga bowser, but yet a 50% Giga Bowser and the other 50% bowser

example:

Giga Bowser Ftilt Values
Damage(hex)11 = 17(decimal)
KB Gain50 = 80 (decimal)
Base KB(hex)1C = 28 (decimal)
Launch Angle(hex)169 = 361(decimal)

Bowser Ftilt Values
Damage(hex)0B = 11(decimal)
KB Gain(hex)53 = 83 (decimal)
Base KB(hex)2D = 45 (decimal)
Launch Angle(hex)169 = 361 (decimal)

Both Giga Bowser's and Bowser's Knock Back New
new damage - 0E
new KB gain - 52
new Base KB - 25
NewLaunch Angle - 169

*** A friend told me that I can actually make Bowser Giga have Giga Bowser's Knockdown attack animation, by getting the element and data from melee's Giga Bowser :D, I will most appreciate if someone can get me this info, like, making Giga Bowser in melee be knockdown and get attacked at 100% and tell me how far you went without DI in Final Destination and how much damage you took, to adjust the KB data to fit melee's Giga Bowsers Knockdown Stand Attack idno***

Enjoy :D

 

[Problem2]

Is it just me or do you jump really high?

 

[Sosuke]

Brokennnn.

But awesomeeeee.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Something for my future project, still working on it

All animations do look perfect ingame

Tilts​

<-- Utilt

<-- Ftilt-Up

<-- Ftilt

<-- Dtilt

Jabs​

Grabs​

<-- PivotGrab

<-- Grab

Dash Attack​

 

[Rudra]

This is really awesome. I have to try this when I get the chance to.

Spoiler

Maybe it should have a Giga Bowser texture? Idk.

 

[Dantarion]

Giga can't swim either.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Ohh right, I didn't figured stages had water ROFL

but I only tried to listed attack info, well, Bowser Giga couldn't get Giga Bowser's Tripped attack stand and knockdown attack stand, cause Giga Bowser doesn't have one in brawl

we may just add an effect to them or leave it as it is, probably leave it as it is, so we don't make a broken character more broken

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Maybe it should have a Giga Bowser texture? Idk.

I really tried to get the texture , but I failed to find it... If you find it plz let me know

 

[Iamthemovie]

I really tried to get the texture , but I failed to find it... If you find it plz let me know

Here's the site where they post some GB textures, but I'm not sure where you get the files...
http://stacksmash.cultnet.net/?p=3891

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Here's the site where they post some GB textures, but I'm not sure where you get the files...
http://stacksmash.cultnet.net/?p=3891

It seems that the file is not in where they have the downloadable texture for every character... but thx man

 

[Rudra]

Here's the site where they post some GB textures, but I'm not sure where you get the files...
http://stacksmash.cultnet.net/?p=3891

Wow, good job in finding it! =O

Also, it looks as though you're almost finished! You're looking for the data for Melee Giga Bowser for being knocked down right? Would the Melee data also possibly work with him being taken into the air as well if someone does find it?

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Wow, good job in finding it! =O

Also, it looks as though you're almost finished! You're looking for the data for Melee Giga Bowser for being knocked down right? Would the Melee data also possibly work with him being taken into the air as well if someone does find it?

Brawl giga Bowser Does have the animations

I figured it out by using the moveswap code into bowser, they both had the same animations when hit and stuff

maybe, in a future, we can Actually play Giga Bowser and not Bowser Giga, but the thing is, Bowser size is bad for him, make him a good combo target, what will happen with Giga Bowser... he will be Gimped from 0% to death

I actually think we should syci with bowser giga, cause he's short, maybe, we should need to give bowser giga different jump values and gravities, hmmm I'm thinking on giving smae gravity from giga bowser

Boowser Giga is currently using Bowser's B+ jump//gravity values, I will gather the data of he's gravity, to make him have the same gravities as Giga Bowser

 

[spunit262]

It's impossible to moveswap Browser and Giga because they use the same file.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

ohh, i thought it really worked, I did't knew they both had the same file

 

[GigaBowserXyZ]

question here.
will this be included in the brawl+ codeset so we can have an extra character or is it just for fun?

 

[Shell]

Brawl+ is a competitive code set structured around character balance.

GigaBowser is not balanced, he's not meant to be balanced.

So no, he won't be in it. Just have fun with him.

 

[trojanpooh]

Well, in theory if the hackers wanted to put enough effort in, he could be modified to become balanced (think Akuma in Street Fighter, used to be OP, now more balanced)

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

exactly :D

and bowser could be like Akuma

and Giga Bowser could be like Shin Akuma, with bad defense and stuff

anyway, I'm playing as Bowser Giga cause I think he could be balance, if I use the third nerf I said in the second quote, Fusing both Bowser and Giga Bowser's power, and then make it halve, it won't be broken I just tested one broken Killer Giga Bowser had, that could kill at 110% and linked it with bowser's and made it halve, and It didn't killed even in 200%

well the vids are for people who love new characters to be added to the game

 

[trojanpooh]

You could also make him slower than Bowser, maybe slightly bigger, and obviously no Thick Skin. If you are serious about making Giga a viable character, get creative with his balancing. Is there a way for you to actually look like Giga Bowser though?

 

[GigaBowserXyZ]

You could also make him slower than Bowser, maybe slightly bigger, and obviously no Thick Skin. If you are serious about making Giga a viable character, get creative with his balancing. Is there a way for you to actually look like Giga Bowser though?

Well by making him slightly bigger and slower, he'll just end up getting comboed from 0% to death, he needs at least some invincibility like say from 0-20% he'll be invincible until u can get it to go higher than that, unless i'm reading it wrong. About your question, yes there is. it's the texture hack for bowser. link's in the first page. that's my suggestion.

 

[Eldiran]

Bravo, NAMQ! This is excellent and awesome. I'm using it in my vBrawl codeset to make Bowser worthwhile. I think though, that it might be wise to nerf his down-air attack; it's crazy beastly now <.<

If possible, could you let me know which section of this code I should edit to change the down-tilt? If you have a section-by-section breakup you could post, that would be even more useful.

Thanks!

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Bravo, NAMQ! This is excellent and awesome. I'm using it in my vBrawl codeset to make Bowser worthwhile. I think though, that it might be wise to nerf his down-air attack; it's crazy beastly now <.<

If possible, could you let me know which section of this code I should edit to change the down-tilt? If you have a section-by-section breakup you could post, that would be even more useful.

Thanks!

Go here

the third section is what you want to edit for Bowser Giga

just look for the whole first line in there of the Dair Landing hitbox, and edit the knock back, but I'm going to nerf it in 2 weeks

I'm just testing Bowser Giga vs different characters and players

 

[Eldiran]

Go here

the third section is what you want to edit for Bowser Giga

just look for the whole first line in there of the Dair Landing hitbox, and edit the knock back, but I'm going to nerf it in 2 weeks

I'm just testing Bowser Giga vs different characters and players

Ah! That's beautiful! Thank you so much! I really wish that other codes were catalogued this well. Thanks again!

One last question: are these hitboxes ordered in order of when they come out during the move? I expect so, but I figure I should make sure.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

Ah! That's beautiful! Thank you so much! I really wish that other codes were catalogued this well. Thanks again!

One last question: are these hitboxes ordered in order of when they come out during the move? I expect so, but I figure I should make sure.

ok, the list of Bowser and Giga Bowser's hitbox, as to answer your question:

yes, the hitbox comes at the order given there

some attacks have more than one hitbox, so yes, if you want to edit an attack, try to edit the other hitboxes of the same attack so, you get better results

 

[Eldiran]

ok, the list of Bowser and Giga Bowser's hitbox, as to answer your question:

yes, the hitbox comes at the order given there

some attacks have more than one hitbox, so yes, if you want to edit an attack, try to edit the other hitboxes of the same attack so, you get better results

Thanks for the help!

I'm having quite good results so far. So far I've removed the 'grounding' property of the d-tilt, reduced the damage of the up-throw and down-throw, and the knockback of the d-air landing. I'm probably going to reduce the overall damage of the f-tilt and f-air. So, I'm making good progress.

 

[Iamthemovie]

http://www.mediafire.com/?naz0yd5kvyx

Found teh Giga Bowser texture

 

[jalued]

wouldnt the no trip make bowser like the ultimate diddy counter? and i do think it would be a very good idea to add him, as long as he is balanced against the rest of the cast. him having super armour from like 0-30% would be a very nice thing, would set him apart from other characters, oh and i agree on changing his jump values etc, cause a bowser player shouldnt be able to just change to giga, should be a differnt play style etc

 

[cookieM0Nster]

Erm, can someone give me the code for tis? Sorry for bumping.