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Geno's Bizarre Adventure part 2: Stardust Crusaders (Geno Support Thread #2)

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Fair enough on that part, but it still doesn´t change the fact that Sora is popular worldwide, Halo is only popular in the west
This is true. Banjo Kazooie, for example, broke 1 million sales in Japan iirc.


While Halo? Well, it's not unheard of, but it barely sells last I checked.
 

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Hence the saying regarding Halo in Japan: "Green Samus?"

Nothing at all against Chief, Halo isn't popular over there. Of course, Chief has a fighter for the West would be a big deal in future Smash.
 

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Is that including all titles? Because I saw someone post the other day that the series had broke 1 mil sales.
I was only referring to the first game, and thought you were too. That and I can't really find Japan-specific sales for later BKs.
 
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Alright here is a crazy thought i had what if the next smash game the newcomer trailer for Geno would require Mario to bring the Geno doll and ask Sora to open the keydoor in Star hill using his Keyblade and then when the keydoor expands and a light comes with a star spirit of Geno coming out of it and possess the Geno doll and then Geno then he turns around and see everyone behind him i think that would be epic and also Bowser and Peach would be present during that event with smiles on their faces seeing Geno again after more than 25 years of being gone.

also check out this awesome Star hill stage made in smash ID: S2DNKMBL if you want to have it
 
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Honesty, I think Geno alongside Mallow has a better chance of appearing in Kingdom Hearts as a cameo like the other Square Enix characters. Imagine exploring Star Road as one of the worlds. Think that would be much easier to get than getting Nintendo and Square to work together again for potential remake or even Smash Bros.


With that, with Ultimate ending despite on a poor note imo, this is prime time to rack up support for the puppet this time. Unfortunately due to 2020, instead of being one of greats alongside Ridley and K.Rool in support with the biggest thread, we are now a shell for our former selves with much more detractors. in fact, we are worse than when we were at Smash 4. We need to change that drastically.

Cliché as it sounds, does anyone have any ideas?
 

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This is true. Banjo Kazooie, for example, broke 1 million sales in Japan iirc.
Banjo Kazooie's peak in Japan was ~400k with their debut game marked by Famitsu, in 2007.

Crash was the one who went platinum in Japan with Warped in less than a month.
 

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I have been watching this person for long time and now so much progress has been done on making a 3D remake of SMRPG
That pierce sound when Exor falls into Bowser's Keep always gives me chills.

An official SMRPG remake would be nice, but I'm just sitting here still waiting for even a straight port of the SNES game.
 

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How long you want to bet it takes for this to get struck down, like Legacy XP and all the other nice things we can't have?
At some point we are gonna have to push back when Nintendo does stuff like this. If I'm not mistaken, I still have the files to Legacy XP and won't be parting ways with them any time soon.
 

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At some point we are gonna have to push back when Nintendo does stuff like this. If I'm not mistaken, I still have the files to Legacy XP and won't be parting ways with them any time soon.
It really is as simple as making one's own website, just making the content anyway, posting and distributing it from the website, doing all of that under a screenname and then ignoring any DMCAs you get. Why no one thinks to do this, I just don't know.

You can even host a server on a Raspberry Pi so I don't know why it is people even worry about such things. Even if you were afraid of Nintendo going to your ISP (they won't, they're not that desperate or stupid), you can always just buy hosting from a country that ignores DMCA requests.
 
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Alright here is a crazy thought i had what if the next smash game the newcomer trailer for Geno would require Mario to bring the Geno doll and ask Sora to open the keydoor in Star hill using his Keyblade and then when the keydoor expands and a light comes with a star spirit of Geno coming out of it and possess the Geno doll and then Geno then he turns around and see everyone behind him i think that would be epic and also Bowser and Peach would be present during that event with smiles on their faces seeing Geno again after more than 25 years of being gone.

also check out this awesome Star hill stage made in smash ID: S2DNKMBL if you want to have it
I won't show up. You may have to upload it yourself and give a new code.
 
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kiteinthesky

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Because Nintendo can and sometimes does follow through with legal action.

It's not worth getting into a legal battle.
There's no way they can do that against an anonymous person publishing stuff under a pseudonym. Who are they going to sue? Who would they know to sue?

People make fan games and write fanfiction and draw fanart all the time, all of which is illegal and therefore shouldn't be done, but literally nothing happens to most people so the fear of it is entirely baseless. Just because Nintendo singled out a few developers to try to make examples out of them doesn't change that fact; they're so few and Nintendo's overreaction to them was so extreme that the only logical conclusion that can be made is that Nintendo was simply using them to try to intimidate everyone else into compliance, and with intimidation, all the work has to be done by the victim. You give Nintendo that power by being afraid of them. So just stop being afraid of them. If there was any basis to the fear of being sued by them, fanfiction.net and AO3 could not possibly exist, so stop worrying about it and just make the games you want.
 
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Honesty, I think Geno alongside Mallow has a better chance of appearing in Kingdom Hearts as a cameo like the other Square Enix characters. Imagine exploring Star Road as one of the worlds. Think that would be much easier to get than getting Nintendo and Square to work together again for potential remake or even Smash Bros.
Not in a million years, at least in my opinon. We are way more likely to see Geno in Smash, or an SMRPG remake or even sequel imo.

And a common misconception people seem to have about Kingdom Hearts is that they visit Final Fantasy/other Square worlds... they never have; it's either Disney worlds or content made specifically for the series.

I won't show up. You may have to upload it yourself and give a new code.
Doesn't show up for me either. I always get an error anytime I try to look up a stage like this.
 
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And you know fully well that this is the only line that they won´t cross. If people think Sora was a legal nightmare, Sora is nothing compared to the likes of Goku and other Shonen characters. Heck, Capcom vs Tatsunoko was close to unable to leave the Japanese border because the licensing for manga and anime properties is on a whole another level when it comes to legality.

And like I stated many times before in this thread. The side mode is not the selling point of Smash Bros (never has, never will). It is the rooster that does. And like I also said before... while Master Chief and/or Crash could be a big deal.. they are nowhere close to Sora level.... and I say that as someone that is indifferent on all 3 (Although I will admitt that Crash would have given me a sour taste in my mouth to some extent due to whats going on over at AB)
If they want the next game to not live in Smash Ultimate's shadow then thats exactly what they'll do. Tatsunoko vs Capcom DID leave Japan's shores in the end, hell there is even a game called Jump Force with all the Shounen Jump characters in it released in the states. Everyone is here was the selling point for Ultimate. Goku and other possibilities will be the seling point for the next smash game.
 

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Not in a million years, at least in my opinon. We are way more likely to see Geno in Smash, or an SMRPG remake or even sequel imo.

And a common misconception people seem to have about Kingdom Hearts is that they visit Final Fantasy/other Square worlds... they never have; it's either Disney worlds or content made specifically for the series.

Doesn't show up for me either. I always get an error anytime I try to look up a stage like this.
If Geno was likely, he would be in right now in Ultimate with us rejoicing but that's not the case. Nintendo had other priorities so that's not possible including the remake or sequel. The closest we will get is SMRPG on NSO(And ngl, that service is already in hot water already)

At least in Geno in KH, there is no need for Nintendo involvement and they would more reason to use him than 'tendo. SE may not get their own worlds in KH but they do make important cameos like Final Fantasy or even The World ends with You with Neku, Despite Star Road being unlikely, having the Star Warrior there and even being a supporting fights with you at parts of the game would be great.

If they want the next game to not live in Smash Ultimate's shadow then that's exactly what they'll do. Tatsunoko vs Capcom DID leave Japan's shores in the end, hell there is even a game called Jump Force with all the Shounen Jump characters in it released in the states. Everyone is here was the selling point for Ultimate. Goku and other possibilities will be the seling point for the next smash game.
Like for reasons I said before, I don't want to the Smash to big like Ultimate again as not only is it unoriginal but it also comes with major set of problems we seen throughout this DLC season and make the game and even series look shallow. However if Nintendo or Sakurai do want top Ultimate in a natural manner, having a crossover like Smash Bros X Shonen Jump would make the most sense. I would happy and worried at the same time though imo.
 

kiteinthesky

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Then why would Google not be sued for all of the fan content put on their sites all the time? Like fan cartoons and fan videos and the like? Or fanfiction.net? Or AO3?

People are just not thinking about the problem and that's a shame. The reticence against making fan games even though people do so, including ROM hacks, all the time is completely irrational.
 
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Icewolff92

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Then why would Google not be sued for all of the fan content put on their sites all the time? Like fan cartoons and fan videos and the like? Or fanfiction.net? Or AO3?

People are just not thinking about the problem and that's a shame. The reticence against making fan games even though people do so, including ROM hacks, all the time is completely irrational.
When you talk about Google, are you talking about Google specifically or Youtube? Because Google isn´t particularly a site in the traditional manner. They are more of a guide to "insert site here" that you are looking for. Youtube, on the other hand, is pretty clear that they are okay with putting out fan works as long as the company(s) doesn't demand it to be taken down. I can tell from experience as someone that has a Youtube channel that if you show or accidentally play something, the entire video can go down in seconds.

When it comes to Fanfiction.net and stuff like that... well even Nintendo back in the "bad youtube,r bad" days didn´t exactly saw those as important targets. as long as they don´t try and make money from it. The only reason why fan games/mods are such a target for Nintendo is that they don´t want their own DOTA on their hands. That's something fan art and fan fics aren´t able to potentially be
 
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kiteinthesky

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When you talk about Google, are you talking about Google specifically or Youtube? Because Google isn´t particularly a site in the traditional manner. They are more of a guide to "insert site here" that you are looking for. Youtube, on the other hand, is pretty clear that they are okay with putting out fan works as long as the company(s) doesn't demand it to be taken down. I can tell from experience as someone that has a Youtube channel that if you show or accidentally play something, the entire video can go down in seconds.

When it comes to Fanfiction.net and stuff like that... well even Nintendo back in the "bad youtube,r bad" days didn´t exactly saw those as important targets. as long as they don´t try and make money from it. The only reason why fan games/mods are such a target for Nintendo is that they don´t want their own DOTA on their hands. That's something fan art and fan fics aren´t able to potentially be
I think people post fan stuff both on Youtube and in Google Drive which Nintendo technically could sue over, too. Google has a lot of services people use for fan content. And let's be real, Youtube is hot garbage and there are better alternatives that are rising in popularity in recent years, but the point's still the same. Nintendo would have to literally take down the whole damn internet to stop fan content from being created if they cared that much, but they don't, so people shouldn't be worried about making fan games anonymously.
 
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