Geno's Bizarre Adventure part 2: Stardust Crusaders (Geno Support Thread #2)

Megadoomer · Feb 15, 2021

The original Geno thread: https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-%E2%99%A5%E2%99%AA-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/
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Geno is one of the five playable characters from the 1996 Square-Enix game Super Mario RPG, and one of the two that was made up for that game along with Mallow. (whose support thread can be found here: https://smashboards.com/threads/mallow-frog-prince-from-the-beyond-the-clouds.456009/ ) While the game didn’t release in Europe (like most RPGs on the SNES) until the Wii Virtual Console, it served as an easily accessible RPG that, for many, was their first experience with the genre. It established concepts like timed hits that would become mainstays of Mario RPGs like the Paper Mario series or Mario & Luigi series, effectively serving as a blueprint for how a platform series like Mario could make the jump into turn-based combat.

Geno is a doll who is possessed by a star. The star’s name is unpronounceable by human tongues, so for simplicity’s sake, he chooses to be referred to by the doll’s name. Despite being a doll, Geno was heavily armed even before his possession, having a gun for an arm and the ability to shoot his fist out like a rocket. He’s the one who informs the team about the importance of finding the Seven Stars (which, up to this point, they had stumbled across while trying to solve other problems) and properly kicking off the game’s plot.

I’d summarize why people want Geno, but papagenos already did so in this video:

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With over 400 supporters from previous threads, it’s going to take a while to list everyone. For simplicity’s sake, I’ll stick to the most recent list of supporters rather than including legacy supporters from previous threads – if you want to view those, there’s a link to the previous Geno thread where they’re listed. If you’re not on the list, feel free to contact me through private messages, mentioning me here, or posting about it on my profile. If you feel like you’ve been mistakenly included here, you can get in touch with me through private messages, profile posts, or mentioning me here to let me know – there are a lot of people who were listed, and I’m not sure how up-to-date that list was.

I’ll put the supporters list under a spoiler tag to avoid stretching out the page to ridiculous extremes. Geno’s fanbase has been dedicated (some have supported him since the Melee days), and as a result, there are a lot of people to list.

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H Hyrulekoopa

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IGuessItsOver

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FAQs (will be updated over time)
Q: What can Geno do?
A: There are plenty of movesets that have been typed up for the character, but to keep this post from getting longer than it already is, I’ll post some videos that show off potential movesets for Geno.

Q: I’ve never played Super Mario RPG before – where can I play it?
A: Aside from the Super NES, the game has been re-released on the Wii U and the Super NES Classic Edition, along with the now-defunct Wii Shop Channel. As of now, it has not been added to the Switch’s Super NES Online App, though this will be updated if/when it is announced.

Q: Nintendo/Sakurai added a Piranha Plant as DLC – doesn’t that mean that Nintendo doesn’t want to add Geno?
A: Geno, unlike most Mario characters, is in an unusual situation. Going by the copyright information that we have, the character (along with all of the characters that originated in Super Mario RPG) is owned by Square-Enix. As a result, Nintendo and Sakurai don’t have much of a say in his inclusion – it’s ultimately up to Square-Enix. This isn’t the case with characters from most Nintendo series – it’s not like Koei-Tecmo owns Cia from Hyrule Warriors or Namco-Bandai owns the Aparoids from Star Fox Assault just because those characters first appeared in games developed by those companies.

For what it’s worth, Sakurai has commented on Geno at some point between Smash 4’s DLC finishing and Ultimate’s announcement, saying that he has wanted to include Geno since Brawl - it’s just that adding the character isn’t within his (or Nintendo's) control.

Q: Why is there a Geno support thread if Geno's already a Mii costume?
A: Just because a character is a Mii costume, it doesn’t mean that we aren’t allowed to have discussion threads for them – threads for characters such as Rex, Sans, or Heihachi remained open after those characters became Mii costumes.

Q: Isn’t Geno a one-off character?
A: Yes (aside from his cameo in Mario & Luigi), but that hasn’t stopped the Smash developers from adding characters with only one major appearance (or no major appearances, in the case of Roy, whose game wasn’t even released when he was added to Melee), and people still speculate about many characters with only one major appearance.
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To emphasize some of the rules that should be kept in mind:

1. No flaming. This also includes people who come into the thread who have doubts/questions regarding Geno’s inclusion. There’s a difference between “Geno isn’t happening lol no promotion you guys suck” and “I don’t think Geno is coming, as Mii Fighters haven’t been promoted.” The first line indicates there’s no debate to be had while the second keeps it open to discussion. In the past, we didn’t allow people to come in the thread to disagree and debate with the thread members. This has changed. Flaming people with legitimate questions will result in warnings.

2. No trolling. This also includes trolling other support threads, discussion threads, and trolling users who are “anti-Geno”.

3. Please keep discussion on track. With Geno’s Mii Fighter outfit confirmed, discussion is limited but please do try to keep it on topic with Geno/SMRPG/Smash/Nintendo discussion. We will be a bit more lenient in this regard than before. That being said, coming in and saying “Hey what’s up everyone” is spam & will be treated as such.

4. Please use the report button instead of replying to questionable posts. The moderation staff tries to get to reports quickly, but can’t be instant every time; give them time to deal with reports.

5. We do our best to keep track of “Anti-Geno trolls” including tracking their actions on other websites. We would appreciate any info one may have regarding a questionable user who made an account purely to troll the thread.

6. No doxxing/threatening to dox/support of doxxing.

7. We have nothing against users theory-crafting and the rules don’t state users can’t talk about the possibility of Geno getting promoted. That being said, please be aware that some users may not agree with that theory. Disagreeing with that theory isn’t grounds for reports/warnings.

LiveStudioAudience · Feb 15, 2021

A lot of things to potentially say, but this recent video feels appropriate:

Megadoomer · Feb 15, 2021

LiveStudioAudience said:
A lot of things to potentially say, but this recent video feels appropriate:

I feel like I should watch more of these; I like the sort of random humour that he uses. (plus, he's a big enough fan of Geno/Mario RPG that he includes at least one Super Mario RPG reference per video, from what I've seen)

SonicMetaphor · Feb 15, 2021

Okay, guess I am in again. Hopefully, nothing goes wrong this time.

Awkwah · Feb 15, 2021

wait, we live?

Edit: Geno Posting time, epic this is back.

LiveStudioAudience · Feb 15, 2021

I can't honestly say as to what the future of the thread will be; many of the former posters are active on their own Discord and while some will gladly come back; others might not be so inclined to return for their own reasons. While I think is a given Geno is coming in Ultimate, there is some interesting discussion to be had for the future beyond that and the hypotheticals about the series proper.

Michael the Spikester · Feb 15, 2021

Why was this made again given the fact Geno's deconfirmed?

SonicMetaphor · Feb 15, 2021

Now that I have the chance, there is something I have to say...

To all Geno fans reading this...

In regards to Geno being a Mii costume and people harassing us over, it sucks people would harass others, over a freaking video game character. It is not like there is anything wrong with being positive, huh? Or let alone wanting a character in a game? Some people just have the nerve.

That is to say, I believe we did leave our mark, and make our voices heard, if somewhat. Even if Sakurai doesn't come to these forums, we still had the biggest thread in the Newcomer section, and with that, in it, we were positive and hopeful, and did not give up on Geno easily. I bet we did do something that made our voices heard in some way, during the Fighters Pass 1 and 2, so even if Geno was not planned for either, or base game, Sakurai can't not include Geno in the next game and say he did not at least hear something about us wanting him in. I don't think our efforts will be all in vain. Nintendo did choose the DLC, not him, but Sakurai is not Nintendo, and he may have heard us some.

Just remember, we can always still support Geno, no matter what; even if he is a Mii costume, and even in the face of danger, that danger being the haters! No matter what, whether it is in this site alone or other places, Sakurai must be able to hear us as he did with other fanbases, and he may have wanted to include Geno as DLC, and would have if it weren't for Nintendo choosing it.

So, I would like to say, let us continue to support Geno any way we can! No matter who hates or harass us, we can still support our puppet boy and try to get Sakurai's attention so he can add him in the next game, or even this game if the Mii costume rule can be broken, if we're lucky! No need to stop now, my fellow Geno bros.!

Xehanort1372019 · Feb 15, 2021

Thank you,

Megadoomer ...your a great human being.

Mushroomguy12 · Feb 15, 2021

Well, this was surprisingly fast (I remember the Waluigi thread took a whole 7 months to get reopened and then got a new thread 4 months later in comparison).

Also kind of surprised how small this is at the moment, you'd think with the size of the old thread this thread would have several pages within the first hour or so. The newcomer/discussion thread started a couple months ago blew up pretty much right away.

Awkwah · Feb 15, 2021

But realistically I do have faith for Geno. But he HAS TO BE NEXT.

1. Mario 35th ends/wraps up around the time we think another character will be shown
2. Rumors of SMRPG Remake/ Sequel still around
3. This is the DK Trailer 3.0 in the making. We even got a new villain to add to the tv portion. And Chained Kong?

Personally I have no attachment to Geno and actually dislike SMRPG. Excited to see if they can pull the biggest joke of all time for Smash Fans.

SneakyLink · Feb 15, 2021

Michael the Spikester said:
Why was this made again given the fact Geno's deconfirmed?

To quote the original post:

Q: Isn’t Geno already a Mii costume?
A: Just because a character is a Mii costume, it doesn’t mean that we aren’t allowed to have discussion threads for them – threads for characters such as Rex, Sans, or Heihachi remained open after those characters became Mii costumes

Kremling Man · Feb 15, 2021

Well this is a thing I’m happy it felt empty without a Geno support thread Mii Costume or not our support for him continues.

Megadoomer · Feb 15, 2021

Mushroomguy12 said:
Well, this was surprisingly fast (I remember the Waluigi thread took a whole 7 months to get reopened and then got a new thread 4 months later in comparison).

Also kind of surprised how small this is at the moment, you'd think with the size of the old thread this thread would have several pages within the first hour or so.

I am not great at advertising, so that probably plays a part haha. Plus, this popped up abruptly/without warning, so it will take time.

Awkwah · Feb 15, 2021

hey uh Megadoomer, wanna add me to the supporter list?

Edit: thanks!

SonicMetaphor · Feb 15, 2021

EDIT: Never mind.

I do hope people will read my message above, by the way.

Mushroomguy12 · Feb 15, 2021

Put them together in a game Nintendo.

Society as a whole would be stagnated until Nintendo finally decides to do a spin-off game with these two. pic.twitter.com/yHYbHv04kH
— Blazin-Bran🔥| Frontiers and SF6 Hype!! (@RoyalBran74) February 15, 2021

novazvezda · Feb 15, 2021

Wow, a new Geno thread! Hi, everyone! Alright, it's only a matter of time before us fans start inching back into the swing of things again. Geno's a Mii costume now, but that doesn't completely seal Geno's fate in Ultimate. we have a potential timeslot for a reveal in March that just so happens to be around Mar10 Day, so who knows.

Awkwah said:
hey uh Megadoomer, wanna add me to the supporter list?

I'd also like to be a part of the list, please.

TheCJBrine · Feb 15, 2021

Geno rises!

thank you modmins!

Megadoomer · Feb 15, 2021

Also, I'm willing to accept suggestions for other questions to include in the FAQs, or suggestions for a different title. (I'm aware that Stardust Crusaders is part three of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but it made more sense than Battle Tendency)

Super10ZX · Feb 15, 2021

We're back..... we're actually back!!!

I'm so happy to see Geno's allowed to have a thread again. I don't really know the best way to word my feelings right now but... thanks.

Marakatu · Feb 15, 2021

Actually part 2 is Battle Tendency

LiveStudioAudience · Feb 15, 2021

I'll say this much, its nice to live in a gaming world with such an active mod community for fighting games:

Phoenixio · Feb 15, 2021

So what changed? The last post from the moderators on the previous thread made it clear they didn't like the type of behavior happening on here, both from the flamers, and also instigated by some more delusional "theories". Why has that stance changed suddenly?

winged hero · Feb 15, 2021

Can I be added to supporters list?

MattX20 · Feb 15, 2021

Well, I'll be. A new Geno thread. It's good to be back

TheCJBrine · Feb 15, 2021

Phoenixio said:
So what changed? The last post from the moderators on the previous thread made it clear they didn't like the type of behavior happening on here, both from the flamers, and also instigated by some more delusional "theories". Why has that stance changed suddenly?

If people are letting others' theories and predictions make them mad, I'd say the theories aren't the ones instigating it.

DanganZilla5 · Feb 15, 2021

Thanks

Megadoomer . And thanks to the mods and admins for giving the Genobros another chance. I would like to be added to the support list.

While Geno's fate has been sealed, at least for this pass, it's nice to have this thread back. The Geno thread always found a way to keep conversations going. I'll be sure to share any tidbits of Geno content I find and I'll continue to support him as I think Geno is cool and I want his fanbase to get their day sometime in the future.

Turtlar · Feb 15, 2021

Glad to see the Geno thread is back. My lurking always felt incomplete without stopping by this thread. Here's to hoping for our guy makes it into Ultimate one way or another!

DarthEnderX · Feb 16, 2021

LiveStudioAudience said:
A lot of things to potentially say, but this recent video feels appropriate:

This video kindled a desire...a desire, for Geno.

Cahalan · Feb 16, 2021

It feels really weird to be back here again. But I'm glad we're back none the less.

While things are pretty dire for Geno's chances, I wouldn't put it past Sakurai to still include him at some point. Geno is up there with Ridley, K. Rool, and Banjo as never-evers. Ultimate is perhaps the last chance for Geno to be playable in Smash as this would probably be Sakurai's last Smash game and one of the few characters Sakurai mentioned having an interest in.

It's now or never for Geno as a playable character, even if he's the last one. We can wait it out.

Until then, we'll enjoy every surprise along the way.

PatPrime · Feb 16, 2021

Huh, I'm surprised another Geno thread was approved this quickly but I ain't complaining. All the folks were nice and besides other support threads, It was the one place on Smashboards where I could "sometimes" talk about other characters and other general things besides Geno without having a ****ing aneurism. Still not a fan of the general newcomer thread and I'm still rooting for you guys and your favorite boy.

Powerman293 · Feb 16, 2021

LiveStudioAudience said:
A lot of things to potentially say, but this recent video feels appropriate:

It's weird to think a YouTube animator like Terminal Montage has done more for Geno's popularity in his short YouTube career vs Square and Nintendo post Mario RPG.

Commander_Alph · Feb 16, 2021

Powerman293 said:
It's weird to think a YouTube animator like Terminal Montage has done more for Geno's popularity in his short YouTube career vs Square and Nintendo post Mario RPG.

I mean the series is long gone and the chances of it having a sequel needs to be agreed by both party, I don't know if that sequel rumor could be taken into account and I've heard that it's not really on their important to-do list.

MrJudd · Feb 16, 2021

Okay, so we have a new Nintendo Direct announced the day after this thread opens (funny how things work in this world)
Anyways, here's a link to the Direct for those who want to be spoiler-free tomorrow:

As for predictions, I think we're due for multiple blindsides. Remember: things take time to come true.

Deleted member · Feb 16, 2021

So after failing to moderate this thread properly and treating this community, and maybe more importantly, one of its most dedicated members like complete ****, this thread just happens to open the day before a direct gets announced?

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I didn't know this website was that classy.

Rohanx17 · Feb 16, 2021

huh so this is a thing. If the moderation team decided to rescind it's decision rout the geno fans from smashboards then why was a new thread created when a perfectly usable one was already up and ready to go?

Heoj · Feb 16, 2021

Pretty lucky that i returned to this website like yesterday right when a new geno thread showed up and a new direct got announced.
Though I feel like the sourness from what happened to the last thread isn't gonna disappear anytime soon.

Megadoomer · Feb 16, 2021

Rohanx17 said:
huh so this is a thing. If the moderation team decided to rescind it's decision rout the geno fans from smashboards then why was a new thread created when a perfectly usable one was already up and ready to go?

Among other reasons, the sheer amount of posts was an issue. Much like the newcomer speculation thread, the previous Geno thread had gotten so many pages that some of the tools on the site weren't working properly. Plus, a fresh start couldn't hurt. (something similar was done for the Waluigi thread in the past, where it was locked and a new thread was opened months later)

Janx_uwu · Feb 16, 2021

It's about time, huh?
I support Geno for Super Smash Bros Ultimate and all future Smash titles.

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