Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Ingenious!]

Man, even if Square never gives Geno what he deserves (because let's be real, I feel Nintendo would, because they listen to their fans, but Square... hoo boy), the fans will always be there to let his potential blossom the way it deserves to.

Welcome! (Also, raspberry? Good taste!)

Welcome to the Geno Thread! I kinda did the Same for Geno except I made his little hat and kinda just keep it around out of love for the guy. Anyways though Welcome the the Geno Thread and I hope you enjoy your stay!

Aaa, glad to be here! Thank you both for the warm welcomes~ I'm glad to have found this thread (And I always have good tastes jk jk)
EditHow dare I forget to make this yellow in honor of my candy boi)

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Man, even if Square never gives Geno what he deserves (because let's be real, I feel Nintendo would, because they listen to their fans, but Square... hoo boy), the fans will always be there to let his potential blossom the way it deserves to.

Welcome! (Also, raspberry? Good taste!)

Yeah, Square to me is like that one kid who still dislikes a former bully from school that's turned over a new leaf. I wonder if they never got over the fact that their magnum opus FF7 couldn't fit into a Nintendo 64 cart, and Sakurai asking for Cloud resurfaced some bad memories of that. Well, said magnum opus finally can fit into a cart now, so if they indeed feel this way, they should just get over it already.

Also, welcome Ingenious! Tensions are high right now, but don't let that get you down, and make sure to hang in the cool cat support threads.

 

[Tetrin]

Haha I'm no longer the new guy around here! Welcome to the thread, we always appreciate fellow Genobros

I don't suppose you've heard of Operation: Starfall? Well, it doesn't matter, I'll link it anyway: https://smashboards.com/threads/operation-starfall-bringing-life-to-smrpg-again.467163/

 

[Zubyyyy]

Did someone say INDIE cause mine is Lethal league and Shantae :D I suck too much to play hollow knight but im trying to play shovel Knight...

Anyways, Hello Genobros and gals! Been lurking here since we talked about our favorite pie (mines anything rasberry~) decided to FINALLY make an account and I just wanna say I love yall so much, I still can't believe so many people love this special puppet boi it just warms my heart so much. Fun fact I even made a cape in honor of my love for the dude, even wearing it to school every Wednesday.. anywho, yeah love what we´re doing here and hope to make some great memories here from here on out!

{also I had to comment on the cursed page muhaha}

Welcome homie.

Pics on the cape plz.

 

[Deleted member]

Currently playing through SMRPG and beanstalk jumps on the way to Nimbus land are killing me. So Annoying

 

[Deleted member]

Currently playing through SMRPG and beanstalk jumps on the way to Nimbus land are killing me. So Annoying

Lmao I was just watching a playthrough with the lets player having the exact same problem.

That frog coin is a *****.

 

[Deleted member]

Lmao I was just watching a playthrough with the lets player having the exact same problem.

That frog coin is a *****.

What a coincidence. Seriously those freaking jumps are pretty difficult but luckily I Made it through. The problem for me was the way the camera angle is it makes it harder than necessary.

 

[SSGuy]

I know Brave could be anyone, but weight logic doesn't seem to apply in Smash. Aren't you forgetting that Mewtwo is literally one of the lightest characters in the game but canonically 269 pounds? Charizard is only 200 and even heavier than Mewtwo in Smash. I mean, Geno's easy to pick up when he's a doll, but we have no idea how much he weighs in his grown form. In fact, NOBODY even has a specific weight for Geno, not even Square themselves because they hardly even bother to give him or Mallow an official weight.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Geno being light just a fan-made thing? I'm pretty sure Geno could be light or heavy, however, it made me come to realize that the amount of wood, plus the ammunition inside his arms, plus turning into a cannon could weigh a lot. Remember that Geno keeps tons of ammunition inside of him and uses guns for his arms, which probably makes his weight/mass heavy. If anything, Mallow seems more like a light character due to him being small and a cloud, while Geno is more of an average (Mario weight) weight character due to the amount of wood and stored ammunition inside of his body.

Weight is also a determining factor for balancing. If Mewtwo had as much sustainability as someone like Ike, he would be impossible to play against. Characters having well rounded stats is much more important than canonical abilities. I give Sakurai a pass on Pokemon height/weight because not even GameFreak can decide what makes sense for Pokemon.

Theoretically, if Geno was Brave and he ended up similar to Mega Man in playstyle, he would need to have the bulk to not make him a pushover against the likes of Fox and Donkey Kong.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

What a coincidence. Seriously those freaking jumps are pretty difficult but luckily I Made it through. The problem for me was the way the camera angle is it makes it harder than necessary.

Depth perception is pretty fickle in that game.

But my least favorite segment in the entire game is the cannonball puzzle in Bowser's Keep. It's tough to get kicks to trigger, and it's easy to do a mistake. Nowadays, I'm not doing that one without a player's guide.

 

[Deleted member]

Depth perception is pretty fickle in that game.

But my least favorite segment in the entire game is the cannonball puzzle in Bowser's Keep. It's tough to get kicks to trigger, and it's easy to do a mistake. Nowadays, I'm not doing that one without a player's guide.

Yeah the depth perception is pretty bad but that's kinda the only problem I have with the game. Everything else is fantastic.

 

[Tetrin]

I really wish I could get an SNES classic, but I don't have anything to hook it up to as of late. When I was younger, I used to be a massive Mario fan and could probably recite to you every character, no matter their significance, that has ever existed in the Mario universe. Ever since I first became a Mario nerd, the RPG titles were the ones that I found most captivating, and I even watched a full playthrough of Partners in Time (which gets too much hate, I liked it better than Inside Story). Eventually I stumbled upon SMRPG, and since then, everything about a particular wooden doll we've all grown to love has just clicked with me. Interesting design, mysteriously silent, and various weapons at his disposal; seemed hard not to love the guy. I've always wanted to play the game and hopefully one day I will. I've seen countless playthroughs of the game and I wholeheartedly support all our efforts of bringing him back.

Although you guys will hate me for this, I think I like Partners in Time just a bit better looking back on it. Of course, Geno is the reigning champ for favorite characters of mine.

 

[Ovaltine]

Interesting design, mysteriously silent, and various weapons at his disposal; seemed hard not to love the guy.

I feel you, yet I feel like my intrigue with Geno started for entirely different reasons than the rest of the fandom.

Rest of the fandom: Geno is so cool and has guns all through his body and is so aloof and mysterious!!
Me: He's a teeny tiny star boy in a teeny tiny doll and he's got a heart of gold and he's just. So. Stinking. Adorable.

I stand for #TeamCuteGeno.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Although you guys will hate me for this, I think I like Partners in Time just a bit better looking back on it. Of course, Geno is the reigning champ for favorite characters of mine.

That's perfectly fine, as far as M&L games go that one doesn't get nearly enough love.

 

[Deleted member]

I really wish I could get an SNES classic, but I don't have anything to hook it up to as of late. When I was younger, I used to be a massive Mario fan and could probably recite to you every character, no matter their significance, that has ever existed in the Mario universe. Ever since I first became a Mario nerd, the RPG titles were the ones that I found most captivating, and I even watched a full playthrough of Partners in Time (which gets too much hate, I liked it better than Inside Story). Eventually I stumbled upon SMRPG, and since then, everything about a particular wooden doll we've all grown to love has just clicked with me. Interesting design, mysteriously silent, and various weapons at his disposal; seemed hard not to love the guy. I've always wanted to play the game and hopefully one day I will. I've seen countless playthroughs of the game and I wholeheartedly support all our efforts of bringing him back.

Although you guys will hate me for this, I think I like Partners in Time just a bit better looking back on it. Of course, Geno is the reigning champ for favorite characters of mine.

While I definitely like SMRPG more than PiT, I really think PiT is underrated and am really sad that it didn't get remade. I hope it does eventually though

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah I love Partners in Time and thought it was better than Inside Story. Inside Story is pretty good but I really dislike the mechanics of the Mario bros controlling Bowser it's just meh. Partners in time though, I really enjoyed. Of course SMRPG is my favorite of the Mario RPG's by a long mile followed by TTYD and then PiT.

Also the reason I personally love Geno, He's both Super Cool and a such a freaking dork I love him. He's both Fun and Funny but also Serious and Bad***. Love the Doll in Blue.

 

[Deleted member]

I personally love Geno because when do you see a puppet, possessed by a star, with a gun for a hand? When do you see a character who appeared in one game get a lot of love and being kept alive by their fans? When do you see a character who is dorky, funny, and a wise bad*** at the same time?

Exactly. Just with Geno.

 

[SSGuy]

Geno is an anomaly when it comes to Mario characters. He is so bizarre and different which is why I am such a fan of the character as a whole. (Maybe also because I like Mega Man so anything with an arm canon is cool)

There will always be your formulaic and generic characters like Waluigi or Rosalina. But there will truly never be anything like Geno in a Mario game ever again.

 

[Ingenious!]

Welcome homie.

Pics on the cape plz.

Alright so, unfortunately, I don't know where it is...BUT I did for some reason make a mini version of the cape so imagine this but bigger and with yellow buttons on the front. Also thanks for the welcome homie.

As for Geno, I started loving him for practically the same reasons as everyone here but also because he was just so..different! and probably the ONLY cool Mario character in the franchise. Also cause he's such a dork gosh~

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Did someone say INDIE cause mine is Lethal league and Shantae :D I suck too much to play hollow knight but im trying to play shovel Knight...

Anyways, Hello Genobros and gals! Been lurking here since we talked about our favorite pie (mines anything rasberry~) decided to FINALLY make an account and I just wanna say I love yall so much, I still can't believe so many people love this special puppet boi it just warms my heart so much. Fun fact I even made a cape in honor of my love for the dude, even wearing it to school every Wednesday.. anywho, yeah love what we´re doing here and hope to make some great memories here from here on out!

{also I had to comment on the cursed page muhaha}

Hope I'm not late to greeting you, but welcome! I hope you enjoy this thread! It's by far my favorite on the website! (There's a ton of other great ones too, such as the Isaac thread, Banjo-Kazooie thread, etc.)

 

[Tetrin]

Nintendo is definitely more hesitant when it comes to broadening their horizons after the complete failure that was the Wii U. Understandably so; regrouping and coming out with commercial powerhouses like BotW and Odyssey was well worth their time. It's just that, we don't really see the Nintendo magic in games anymore, save a few titles like Smash, BotW, and Odyssey.

First and foremost, reviving Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi with proper games. No remakes, no "Sticker Star" approach, just branch off of what made them successful the first time around. Maybe bring back fan favorites like Fawful, the Shroobs, or *ehem* GENO just for an extra splash of creativity.

Secondly, reviving old series. Nintendo is becoming increasingly selective with titles they plan on keeping alive, and even more so with titles they plan on keeping half-decent @StarFoxZero. Anyway, maybe don't pump out so many Mario Party games and make things like, oh I don't know, a sequel to Kid Icarus: Uprising. It sold a commendable amount of units (1.24 million) and the game only suffered from mildly frustrating controls at times. Wario Land is another series that sort of got tossed in the trash; I understand their reluctance on this one since not many of the games sold well, but retouching the games to give it a more Mario-like feel or even a never-before-seen Wario aesthetic in maybe a 3d game would undoubtedly catch people's eye. Golden Sun would also work well, but I think it'd mainly work with an Isaac reveal for Smash. Advance Wars would also be

Onto more recognizable titles, the fourth installments for Pikmin and Metroid Prime are where exactly? I know this year is massively hyped up since it has heavy hitters like Animal Crossing, Pokemon, and Luigi's Mansion that always make a profit, but that doesn't mean other series should be deprioritized. Open world games that Nintendo makes are showing a lot of promise, so Pikmin 4 has a bright future ahead of it unless it goes a route completely unexpected and terrible. Metroid Prime 4 certainly seems interesting with Sylux being the main villain (allegedly) so I hope that doesn't bomb like Samus Returns and Federation Force.

I want to dedicate a section to Fatal Frame. I don't know much about the series, but the fact that two of its installments are often considered among the greatest horror games ever definitely says the series should wait 5 years for the next installment (we're nearing 5 since the last one). I have absolutely no clue why Nintendo went for this IP out of all the ones in existence, but at least do something with it.

The Switch was played out to be the second coming of the Wii. It's popular, no doubt, but as it turns out, the Wii's sales are nearly 5 times that of the Switch. So here we are again with Nintendo playing it safe.

 

[Deleted member]

Alright so, unfortunately, I don't know where it is...BUT I did for some reason make a mini version of the cape so imagine this but bigger and with yellow buttons on the front. Also thanks for the welcome homie.

As for Geno, I started loving him for practically the same reasons as everyone here but also because he was just so..different! and probably the ONLY cool Mario character in the franchise. Also cause he's such a dork gosh~

This

I want to wear this.

No matter the size.

 

[Ingenious!]

Hope I'm not late to greeting you, but welcome! I hope you enjoy this thread! It's by far my favorite on the website! (There's a ton of other great ones too, such as the Isaac thread, Banjo-Kazooie thread, etc.)

Never too late fellow Genofan! Thank you for the welcome! I'll make sure to check those threads out as well

This

I want to wear this.

No matter the size.

I'm sure your hand will love their new cape X) (Also THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WOrDS AAA)

 

[EarlTamm]

Nintendo is definitely more hesitant when it comes to broadening their horizons after the complete failure that was the Wii U. Understandably so; regrouping and coming out with commercial powerhouses like BotW and Odyssey was well worth their time. It's just that, we don't really see the Nintendo magic in games anymore, save a few titles like Smash, BotW, and Odyssey.

First and foremost, reviving Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi with proper games. No remakes, no "Sticker Star" approach, just branch off of what made them successful the first time around. Maybe bring back fan favorites like Fawful, the Shroobs, or *ehem* GENO just for an extra splash of creativity.

Secondly, reviving old series. Nintendo is becoming increasingly selective with titles they plan on keeping alive, and even more so with titles they plan on keeping half-decent @StarFoxZero. Anyway, maybe don't pump out so many Mario Party games and make things like, oh I don't know, a sequel to Kid Icarus: Uprising. It sold a commendable amount of units (1.24 million) and the game only suffered from mildly frustrating controls at times. Wario Land is another series that sort of got tossed in the trash; I understand their reluctance on this one since not many of the games sold well, but retouching the games to give it a more Mario-like feel or even a never-before-seen Wario aesthetic in maybe a 3d game would undoubtedly catch people's eye. Golden Sun would also work well, but I think it'd mainly work with an Isaac reveal for Smash. Advance Wars would also be

Onto more recognizable titles, the fourth installments for Pikmin and Metroid Prime are where exactly? I know this year is massively hyped up since it has heavy hitters like Animal Crossing, Pokemon, and Luigi's Mansion that always make a profit, but that doesn't mean other series should be deprioritized. Open world games that Nintendo makes are showing a lot of promise, so Pikmin 4 has a bright future ahead of it unless it goes a route completely unexpected and terrible. Metroid Prime 4 certainly seems interesting with Sylux being the main villain (allegedly) so I hope that doesn't bomb like Samus Returns and Federation Force.

I want to dedicate a section to Fatal Frame. I don't know much about the series, but the fact that two of its installments are often considered among the greatest horror games ever definitely says the series should wait 5 years for the next installment (we're nearing 5 since the last one). I have absolutely no clue why Nintendo went for this IP out of all the ones in existence, but at least do something with it.

The Switch was played out to be the second coming of the Wii. It's popular, no doubt, but as it turns out, the Wii's sales are nearly 5 times that of the Switch. So here we are again with Nintendo playing it safe.

Not that I disagree, but isn't it kinda funny that a good chunk of your idea of Nintendo "broadening their horizons" is just them going back to their old material? Again, I don't disagree, it's just an observation.

 

[Deleted member]

Never too late fellow Genofan! Thank you for the welcome! I'll make sure to check those threads out as well


I'm sure your hand will love their new cape X) (Also THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WOrDS AAA)

Nope. I'm wearin' it like how a cape is supposed to be worn!

 

[Ovaltine]

Not that I disagree, but isn't it kinda funny that a good chunk of your idea of Nintendo "broadening their horizons" is just them going back to their old material? Again, I don't disagree, it's just an observation.

It's kinda funny, isn't it? Their older stuff just has more originality and pizzazz, mainly because Nintendo was still fresh at the same and they had no 'samey rhythm' to their releases. Now that they've found a sort of routine, they've stuck with it, and it's made things that much more stale. (I don't even say this out of nostalgia, either, since a lot of SNES titles were ones I visited way later in my life.)

It's just... kinda sad. That's what becoming that much more corporate with a long life ahead does to you, I guess.

 

[Deleted member]

It's kinda funny, isn't it? Their older stuff just has more originality and pizzazz, mainly because Nintendo was still fresh at the same and they had no 'samey rhythm' to their releases. Now that they've found a sort of routine, they've stuck with it, and it's made things that much more stale. (I don't even say this out of nostalgia, either, since a lot of SNES titles were ones I visited way later in my life.)

It's just... kinda sad. That's what becoming that much more corporate with a long life ahead does to you, I guess.

That's probably why the Mother series and the Mario RPG series are my favorite video game series

 

[Tetrin]

Not that I disagree, but isn't it kinda funny that a good chunk of your idea of Nintendo "broadening their horizons" is just them going back to their old material? Again, I don't disagree, it's just an observation.

Is that somehow not broadening their horizons past the very limited 5 series that receive overwhelmingly more attention than any others? Nintendo doesn't like reviving old series anymore, so I would definitely consider going back to those games a very unorthodox move.

 

[Sovereign Trinity]

Good morning Geno brothers - we are on page 666 The Devils # :O

...GET THE CROSS!

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Yeah I love Partners in Time and thought it was better than Inside Story. Inside Story is pretty good but I really dislike the mechanics of the Mario bros controlling Bowser it's just meh. Partners in time though, I really enjoyed. Of course SMRPG is my favorite of the Mario RPG's by a long mile followed by TTYD and then PiT.

Also the reason I personally love Geno, He's both Super Cool and a such a freaking dork I love him. He's both Fun and Funny but also Serious and Bad***. Love the Doll in Blue.

I agree with this. Also, be careful when someone says [insert Mario RPG game here] is better than Bowser's Inside Story, because there will be a lot of people debating with you. lol

Partners in Time was unique in its own way, with having items as special attacks and traveling in time in order to go to other areas of the world. I really loved the story about aliens invading the Mushroom Kingdom's past, and it's insane to know that Baby Mario and Luigi from Partners in Time are the adult Mario and Luigi from Bowser's Inside Story. I do wish there was more of Bowser, though, but I get why he was shown less because Baby Bowser took his place a majority of the time. So Partners in Time could be a prequel here... hey, this relates a bit to Star Wars because a lot of Star Wars fans aren't too fond with the prequels (Don't know why since I loved the prequels), same goes for the Mario RPG fans not being fond of Partners in Time. So I guess the timeline goes: Partners in Time -> Superstar Saga -> Bowser's Inside Story?

There's a plot hole in this, though, because Fawful does mention the time when Mario and Luigi defeated him. Unless Partners in Time isn't a prequel after all? Yikes, I feel like Akira Toriyama right now. Does that make Fawful a time traveler? Is Superstar Saga's Mario and Luigi the same ones from the present in Partners in Time? What's going on?!

 

[Deleted member]

TBH I feel like the only reason Square refuses to give Geno to Nintendo is either

A. Nintendo isn't approaching them about Geno
B. Square is still being salty about FF7
C. Square doesn't feel like giving their competitor a character

But honestly, if it's B or C, I feel like the PR of Square generously giving the fans this old fan favorite out of the kindness of their heart would outweigh any sort of pride/profit loss of those two reasons.

 

[Ovaltine]

TBH I feel like the only reason Square refuses to give Geno to Nintendo is either

A. Nintendo isn't approaching them about Geno
B. Square is still being salty about FF7
C. Square doesn't feel like giving their competitor a character

But honestly, if it's B or C, I feel like the PR of Square generously giving the fans this old fan favorite out of the goodness of their heart would outweigh any sort of pride/profit loss of those two reasons.

I'd peg it mainly as either Square putting a high price-point that isn't worth it for Nintendo or Square refusing to use such an old and unused character because it's not profitable enough for them. Their standards are high; they want a pretty penny, nay, millions of pretty pennies. That in combination with Nintendo not approaching them about Geno is what makes most sense to me. Even then, though, some kind of approach had to have happened for the spirit, but I don't know if they were willing to let that transcend spirit status into playable status.

 

[Datboigeno]

Is that somehow not broadening their horizons past the very limited 5 series that receive overwhelmingly more attention than any others? Nintendo doesn't like reviving old series anymore, so I would definitely consider going back to those games a very unorthodox move.

This. I'd love it if they actually did anything with F-Zero or Earthbound anytime soon. It just boggles my mind too because those series are so well received and have such fan support.

 

[Deleted member]

This. I'd love it if they actually did anything with F-Zero or Earthbound anytime soon. It just boggles my mind too because those series are so well received and have such fan support.

EARTHBOUND PLS

 

[Deleted member]

TBH I feel like the only reason Square refuses to give Geno to Nintendo is either

A. Nintendo isn't approaching them about Geno
B. Square is still being salty about FF7
C. Square doesn't feel like giving their competitor a character

But honestly, if it's B or C, I feel like the PR of Square generously giving the fans this old fan favorite out of the goodness of their heart would outweigh any sort of pride/profit loss of those two reasons.

I think it just has more to do with the fact that they have other characters from huge IPs is all, even aside from Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest they also have some heavy hitter series even like Nier under them as well.
But, for the time being we don't really know what's up with them. Maybe they could have handed him over.

 

[Ovaltine]

I think it just has more to do with the fact that they have other characters from huge IPs is all, even aside from Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest they also have some heavy hitter series even like Nier under them as well.
But, for the time being we don't really know what's up with them. Maybe they could have handed him over.

My dream would be for Square to have sold Geno and Mallow to Nintendo or at least allowed far easier usage for them.

Give me my sons in Mario Kart or give me death.

 

[Deleted member]

My dream would be for Square to have sold Geno and Mallow to Nintendo or at least allowed far easier usage for them.

Give me my sons in Mario Kart or give me death.

Death is deconfirmed as a stage boss though...

 

[Deleted member]

My dream would be for Square to have sold Geno and Mallow to Nintendo or at least allowed far easier usage for them.

Give me my sons in Mario Kart or give me death.

Mallow in Mario Kart would be great because you could have him stretch out his arms acting as an item.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it just has more to do with the fact that they have other characters from huge IPs is all, even aside from Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest they also have some heavy hitter series even like Nier under them as well.
But, for the time being we don't really know what's up with them. Maybe they could have handed him over.

I mostly mean selling him to them as a Mario character, like for Mario Kart or Party or a new RPG. Not Smash specifically.

 

[Tetrin]

This. I'd love it if they actually did anything with F-Zero or Earthbound anytime soon. It just boggles my mind too because those series are so well received and have such fan support.

F-Zero would need a massive overhaul to even be considered, which is why I think the games have faded into inexistence. It's been replaced by Mario Kart, which has more thematic variety. I've changed my stance on F-Zero; despite being a fantastic series, I think it's best left where it is. Just, don't forget about it entirely; we like the F-Zero track remodels.

Mother is irrefutably a classic and amazing series, but I'm a little worried if they go for a game. Maybe Nintendo could pull a Sonic Mania and endorse the fan made Mother 4, or maybe they can just localize Mother 3 because their excuse supply is running out. Anyway, the creator explicitly said he has no more vision for the series and left it as is, and maybe that's where it should be left...

SIKE WE NEED MOTHER 4! GIVE US A BRAND NEW PROTAGONIST AND ANTAGONIST WITH A MIND BLOWING STORY, SHOEHORN MOTHER CHARACTERS IN MARIO KART; E V E R Y W H E R E.

 

[Deleted member]

This. I'd love it if they actually did anything with F-Zero or Earthbound anytime soon. It just boggles my mind too because those series are so well received and have such fan support.

Didn't Mother just straight up end in Mother 3? Like the trilogy is over, the creator said so himself. I would like to see remasters or Mother 3 being brought to the west though.

 

[Deleted member]

I mostly mean selling him to them as a Mario character, like for Mario Kart or Party or a new RPG. Not Smash specifically.

Ah. In that case, then it's weird to me too. You think they would be no-brainers, but I suppose not.