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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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PsychoIncarnate

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Some other leaker on ResetERA posted

- Ken & Incineroar playable
- Shadow and Isaac as ATs
- Chorus Kids and Mach Rider as trophies
- No sign of Geno or Banjo
- One or two other newcomers

If he's right, Geno isn't in the game at all. Not even as an AT or Trophy
 
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Some other leaker on ResetERA posted

- Ken & Incineroar playable
- Shadow and Isaac as ATs
- Chorus Kids and Mach Rider as trophies
- No sign of Geno or Banjo
- One or two other newcomers

If he's right, Geno isn't in the game at all. Not even as an AT or Trophy
And of course all of his points are expressly made to attack the Grinch leak. Info is not cherry picked like that.
 

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Shadow as an AT while he's like the most obvious echo fighter (alongside Ken) and while we have a new Sonic's AT.
Yup, that's a fake leak.
 

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This will be an odd request, but I feel I should bring it up.

While we’re all hyped for Thursday, us geno fans especially as we still likely have the best chance we’ve ever had, and definitely more than some other fan requesed characters, let’s still keep that tiny shred of doubt in the back of our minds that he might not make it.

I know it makes me sound like a kill joy, but if you get hyped way way too much, it might make the disappointment sting so much more if he in fact doesn’t make it.

Also on the plus side it makes it oh so much better if he does.

But just remember all the hype we had prior to Isabelle’s reveal, which left both us and especially Isaac fans a bit speechless and scratching our head. as we all were sure one of em would be revealed that day.
 

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Ok, we're settled in.
Remember that our boy works for the Star Road, where wishes become true. So if we all wish together, we may reach Geno up in the stars, and come to kick some asses for us.
 

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Looks like the Grinch Leak was fake after all. Whelp.

Either way, I think Geno made it. His fate was likely not even counting the leak.
 

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While we’re all hyped for Thursday, us geno fans especially as we still likely have the best chance we’ve ever had, and definitely more than some other fan requesed characters, let’s still keep that tiny shred of doubt in the back of our minds that he might not make it.

I know it makes me sound like a kill joy, but if you get hyped way way too much, it might make the disappointment sting so much more if he in fact doesn’t make it.
I completely agree with this. Even though I assume Geno is in, I'm not going to let my world turn upside if he was deconfirmed.
 

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We just need to wish harder to make our dreams manifest
 

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I really want Geno in Ultimate. I think he will probably be the first character in the Direct to be announced tho just cause everyone is pretty certain he's in.
 

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Seems a lot has happened since I was away with all this "Insider" talk and everyone playing the game of who-confirmed-what. I'm sorry, I don't put a lot of stock in what these people are saying. I don't completely discredit the things people say and pass around but nothing is truly confirmed yet. I don't like to see people rolling over submissive over this stuff, so I'm hopeful Thursday will clear things up for those who have been feeling downcast.
 

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I’m starting to think verge is losing it, he had his moments of Internet fame but now he’s maybe realizing he was either told misinformation deliberately, or possibly he was lying from the start and just got lucky, and now his lucky streak is starting to fade.

Granted I’m still not 100% convinced of the grinch leak, I’d rather just be cautiously hopeful it is, than full blown believing it.

I do wonder though just how likely it is that Nintendo really did pick some unsuspecting “leakers” to deliberately feed misinformation to just keep everyone confused...
All this talk of Nintendo putting in plants just makes me imagine a director working on a fighting game, and just pulling insane, almost unethical steps to just play 4D dimensional chess with everyone until release.
>Dev team working on roster is sequestered off. If there are leaks, we'll know from who. Room has fake cameras in it in very specific locations. Easy to find who would be prime to try and dodge cameras.
>Different departments have multiple fake full rosters that they're working with as if they are real.
>Half way from announcement to release, the Director himself puts out a real leak in secret. Acts distraught behind the scenes. Instill fear of punishment into dev team to ensure loyalty and an airtight team run by fear and paranoia. The director only reveals it was them post release (Or they never do, if they really wanted to be scummy.)
>Director contacts known leakers personally as an insider with a hidden identity and give them half truths and nonsense.
>Any fake information that leaks tells which department did it due to all departments having unique fake information.
>Hire a small advertising firm to handle all promotional art. Probably a tiny, family owned business. If they leak, they are ruined financially ten times over. They can't afford to leak.

Imagine the director dropping a direct style announcement post release revealing every step in their master plan.
 
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It's only less than 2 days 'til the truth :)
Best to just stay open and see what really comes up.
 

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All this talk of Nintendo putting in plants just makes me imagine a director working on a fighting game, and just pulling insane, almost unethical steps to just play 4D dimensional chess with everyone until release.
>Dev team working on roster is sequestered off. If there are leaks, we'll know from who. Room has fake cameras in it in very specific locations. Easy to find who would be prime to try and dodge cameras.
>Different departments have multiple fake full rosters that they're working with as if they are real.
>Half way from announcement to release, the Director himself puts out a real leak in secret. Acts distraught behind the scenes. Instill fear of punishment into dev team to ensure loyalty and an airtight team run by fear. The director only reveals it was them post release (Or they never do, if they really wanted to be scummy.)
>Director contacts known leakers personally as an insider with a hidden identity and give them half truths and nonsense.
>Any fake information that leaks tells which department did it due to all departments having unique fake information.
>Hire a small advertising firm to handle all promotional art. Probably a tiny, family owned business. If they leak, they are ruined financially ten times over. They can't afford to leak.

Imagine the director dropping a direct style announcement post release revealing every step in their master plan.
This totally makes me want a game where you play as a guy trying to bait out leakers while you finish product development. Add in a little black comedy and you got yourself a GOTY right there.
 
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This totally makes me want a game where you play as a guy trying to bait out leakers now while you finish product development. Add in a little black comedy and you got yourself a GOTY right there.
As an aspiring game dev myself, part of me wants to pen that down on the off chance I have some greats ideas for a concept like that. But now I'd feel bad doing so since it's not really my idea.
 

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As an aspiring game dev myself, part of me wants to pen that down on the off chance I have some greats ideas for a concept like that. But now I'd feel bad doing so since it's not really my idea.
"Good artists borrow, great ones steal"

Seriously though, just go for it man, good ideas are good ideas.
 
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Rosalina was the update instead of music! Our Lady or higher authority is here to grant our wishes! <3
 

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So...why bother trying to "leak" info when we're literally going to know everything about this game in 2 days? I don't get it, unless it really is just a last-ditch effort to correctly guess stuff, which is beyond sad. Seriously, leakers, just stop. We no longer care.
Some other leaker on ResetERA posted

- Ken & Incineroar playable
- Shadow and Isaac as ATs
- Chorus Kids and Mach Rider as trophies
- No sign of Geno or Banjo
- One or two other newcomers

If he's right, Geno isn't in the game at all. Not even as an AT or Trophy
And this...this is just laughable. The only way you could know info this specific is if you'd seen the direct, and if you had, you'd KNOW who these "other" newcomers were. That last bit just smacks of nonsense. They didn't even bother to try and take a guess at who else could be in (because there's pretty much no one huge left, lol.)

If this is how it's gonna be until the direct, then count me outta here. I'll just pop in the discord when it's time. Peace!
 

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So...why bother trying to "leak" info when we're literally going to know everything about this game in 2 days? I don't get it, unless it really is just a last-ditch effort to correctly guess stuff, which is beyond sad. Seriously, leakers, just stop. We no longer care.

And this...this is just laughable. The only way you could know info this specific is if you'd seen the direct, and if you had, you'd KNOW who these "other" newcomers were. That last bit just smacks of nonsense. They didn't even bother to try and take a guess at who else could be in (because there's pretty much no one huge left, lol.)

If this is how it's gonna be until the direct, then count me outta here. I'll just pop in the discord when it's time. Peace!
may i have a link to that discord if it's not a private one?
 

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So many leakers contradicting each other and fighting over who is right

I say we just ignore all of them and going back to hoping to see our favorites on Thursday

We're not going to gain anything trying to argue between which leaker is more reliable. And we've only got a little over 1 day left
 

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So many leakers contradicting each other and fighting over who is right

I say we just ignore all of them and going back to hoping to see our favorites on Thursday

We're not going to gain anything trying to argue between which leaker is more reliable. And we've only got a little over 1 day left
True.

I'm so ready for the direct this Thursday, I've been so tired over all the arguments over which leakers are real or not. It's all going to be settled Thursday and thank the Star Road for that!

Keeping my fingers crossed our Star Warrior comes thru~:starman:
 

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I feel I should also point out no leaker has gone out of their way to outright deconfirm Geno, unlike Issac and Shadow.

I dunno guys, it's a World War out there. Just stick to what you believe in, and believe that Geno can make it.
 

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Yeah, well, I'm super excited and nervous for Thursday, however, I want to avoid spoilers. I think I'll watch papagenos video he said he'd release on Wednesday night and go to be hella early and wake up hella early and I'll be back after the direct, whether it's to cry tears of joy or tears of sadness. Either way, there will be tears. Let's hope our wish gets granted. It's been a long 12 years of wanting Geno in Smash!
 

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I’m glad we seem relatively untouched going into Thursday, at least in comparison to a lot of others (God I hope the Isaac Bros pull through too as an Isaac fan myself). The end is near, let’s just hope it’s a happy one for Geno. I still think he’s the newcomer with the most going for him, Incineroar and the hate of people finally be damned. The Mii costume and rights were always a bigger deal than people wanted it to be, and it’s 100% Sakurai’s decision making that will save or sink us. I don’t see why Geno shouldn’t be at this point.

Also, damn I was hoping we’d break 10,000 by the final Direct, but doesn’t quite look like we’ll make it.
 

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Figured it was time to use this account that I had created for myself some time ago. ^^;

Like many of you, I've been waiting for a long time for Geno to finally be playable in another game. I recall playing SMRPG back when it first came out in 1996 and wanting to see him reunite with Mario and friends, or even star (no pun intended) in his own game (or series!) ever since. His charisma, his personality, heck even his appearance (those intense crimson eyes!); there was just something about him that made him stand out in Mario's world.

I've been wanting Geno in Smash since the Brawl days and even had an account here once upon a time, but I long lost the login info. Learning that he was not in Brawl or a fully playable character in Smash 4 devastated me, but never once since first playing SMRPG twenty-two plus years ago have I given up hope in Geno being playable in another game someday.

Thursday it may happen, and I feel so excited yet scared. Things have been looking up for Geno, especially with Sakurai's comments about him and giving his costume its own splash screen with “Beware the Forest's Mushrooms” playing in the background, but with how many times I've been led on and let down, I can't help but fear being hurt yet again. I feel so torn; I want to believe, but . . . @_@ Expect the worst, but hope for the best?

Here's hoping that Geno is announced as a fully playable character on the base roster on Thursday (and gets a super-awesome trailer to boot); I know that I'll either be crying either tears of joy or of sadness once the direct is over!
 

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Just one thing Genobros...

Why would a character on the banner leak be an assist trophy? Think about it, why? Why would they go out of their way to draw long fan favorite picks, put them on the banner (wich is going to be promo material btw, if theses dudes are assist, it's false advertising) just to make them assists? That's downright cruel.

We're only 28 hours from the direct. Replay SMRPG, talk on this thread , but seriously, don't bother with these "insiders" and what-not. They know the game as much as we know it.
 

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Stop the noise.
Who cares what ‘insiders’ say at this point?

Just wait a day and we all get the real deal.
 

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Hey Geno peeps! I know it is scary right now. How the world is out against you and want your dreams crushed. Don't let them get under your skin.

You, Isaac and Banjo have been wanted for so many years. We have stuck together in our beliefs that they will be in. Don't let them be for naught.

If they don't make it, let us continue our hopes and dreams onto the next road. This bus keeps on riding until one day they get off to enter Smash.

Let no-one deter you from your beliefs. Let your faith be your shield.

Good luck tomorrow!
-Isaac supporter
 

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So, in the last 18 hours, insiders have gone from "the Grinch leak is fake but 4-5 characters are still probably playable anyways" to "two are real and one is possibly DLC." I kind of want off this ride...
 

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So, in the last 18 hours, insiders have gone from "the Grinch leak is fake but 4-5 characters are still probably playable anyways" to "two are real and one is possibly DLC." I kind of want off this ride...
It is rather.....er....astonishing, for lack of a better of word the number of people coming out to contradict everything.
I'm not even paying attention to any of them, honestly, I'm just waiting for tomorrow.

But I would make this analogy.
Don't take these "leaks" with a grain of salt.
Don't take these "leaks" with a mound of salt.
Don't take these "leaks" with a barrel of salt.
Instead, keep this in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KquFZYi6L0
 

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So many leakers contradicting each other and fighting over who is right

I say we just ignore all of them and going back to hoping to see our favorites on Thursday

We're not going to gain anything trying to argue between which leaker is more reliable. And we've only got a little over 1 day left
I agree. I'm treating these last minute claims as text leaks. They all seem to have the direct purpose of killing off hype for one specific leak anyway.
 
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