StormC
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No, but they didn't confuse him for a real life French military leader.The average person didn't know what a Game & Watch was back in 2001.
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No, but they didn't confuse him for a real life French military leader.The average person didn't know what a Game & Watch was back in 2001.
Nobody working at Nintendo today was actually alive when they were known for making Hanafuda cards. And putting in a real life historical figure - one with a very controversial reputation - is something Nintendo almost certainly doesn't want to dabble in.I doubt that recognizability alone would have Sakurai exclude the idea of Hanafuda, the significant importance Hanafuda has in Nintendo history would more than make up for it for Hanafuda to be the next ideal retro "surprise" character. Hanafuda is also one of those cases where I think being mostly recognized and known in Japan would not be a big issue.
Intelligent Systems actually made a Napoleon strategy game for the Game Boy Advance, it was released only in Japan and France. (It’s actually pretty good)Nobody working at Nintendo today was actually alive when they were known for making Hanafuda cards. And putting in a real life historical figure - one with a very controversial reputation - is something Nintendo almost certainly doesn't want to dabble in.
Have they ever even been featured in a Nintendo game?
He'd be in the third party category, but he's been MIA for a while so he'd be like a retro character. Not too bad of a choice if you ask me, his game is well received and it'd be cool to have his world included (and probably would be the closest thing to getting Goku in Smash).I wonder if Chrono Trigger counts as a retro game? Would Crono be a viable contender, or is this a bad idea?
Works for me. As long as Cranky can bounce on foes McDuck-style, I can dig it.I agree, the arcade DK is extremely important, and would certainly qualify as reto, and DK Jr. is cool and all... but if they really wanted to do Sr. right, they'd double down on the 8-bit references with a playable Cranky Kong (Brawl did mention how he's the original arcade DK after all, so Smash has created precedent for it).
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And arguably, DK Jr. is the DK we already have playable, it would just add to the confusion. Though, I don't think any of it is likely since Sakurai already shared Arcade DK as the memory for Donkey Kong's Ultimate Tweet. Seems like it'd be enough for representing the arcade series.
You know, I had a similar idea. The character is called "NES Remix" and it's basically the four rejected NES characters - Urban Champion, Excitebiker, Balloon Fighter, and Bubbles (Clu Clu Land) - joining forces to fight together as a single unit... like Rick, Kine, and Coo in Kirby Star Allies.I have a great idea for a retro character, NES Trio. Clu Clu, Excitebiker, and Balloon Fighter, act like Rick, Kine, and Coo in Star Allies.
The same could had been said for Pac-Man and Mega Man in Smash 4.I feel like the Belmonts were already our retro pick.
or K. Rool.I feel like the Belmonts were already our retro pick.
Nope. IMO, it counts when it's a Nintendo character.I feel like the Belmonts were already our retro pick.
Nintendo still makes Hanafuda cards! (See here!) So unless there's some wacky time-travel going on at Nintendo (which, to be fair, we don't know this ISN'T the case), everyone working there today is alive while Nintendo is known for making Hanafuda cards.Nobody working at Nintendo today was actually alive when they were known for making Hanafuda cards.
Bub is my #1 retro choice. He "suffers" the same "problem" as some of my other retro choices, which is that Bub has been in plenty of games since the original Puzzle Bobble/Bust a Move (the most recent new game was Bust-a-Move Universe released in 2011, but as recent as 2016 there was a virtual consul release of the original Bubble Bobble platformer). Bub is also a third party character (Square-Enix, which absorbed Taito some years back), which adds another wrinkle to his getting in. Then there's the point made by Juliusaurus:has anyone mentioned bubble bobble yet?
As much as I'd love to see that little Bubble Dragon in Smash, it would be a pretty low blow to have them as playable while Bomberman (who is 1000x more of a gaming icon than Bub) is an assist trophy. However, if there's a Bub and Bob assist trophy where they launch bubbles at the screen from their little contraption? That would be great, adorable, and a welcome representation of this series.But if Bomberman can only get an Assist Trophy, Bub and Bob wouldn't or shouldn't get playable over him. But I would adore it if they were Assist Trophies as well.
Yeah, I get that feeling too. Specifically Simon Belmont. I do not feel like we'll be getting any "retro" character on the base roster, and when confronted with this fan rule I think Sakurai will respond with something to the effect "What do you mean? You have Simon Belmont. OK, time to go make video games. Bye-bye!", and then Sakurai will ride off in his magical elevator back to his whimsical video game factory where he and a bunch of Oompa Loompas make Nintendo happen. And the Oompa Loompa's all have Reggie Fils-Amie's face.I feel like the Belmonts were already our retro pick.
100% there with you. Especially if we're going with the "Ultimate is the Villains game!" idea, The NintendGlove (Or Power Glove, to be accurate) would be the perfect villainous foil to R.O.B. R.O.B is a hardware device that was able to help Nintendo avoid death then faded into obscurity; the NintendGlove is a hardware device that is consistently in the minds of gamers as an ill-conceived idea that may have almost killed Nintendo.Old idea: Power Glove as a playable character.
If Nintendo revealed that their origin story was tied to Napoleon, my marketing team would be pretty hype with creative thrill.Hanafuda itself isn't enough to me, unless they can really capture a gameplay gimmick for it... But, my idea was pretty much a smorgasbord of all sorts of pre-videogame Nintendo content rolled up into one character, including hanafuda. Whether that's the mini kangaroo, 9-volt, or a crude Napoleon himself (not that I'd ever really want that, haha), and find the game element within those old Nintendo doodads could be, the ULTIMATE retro character.
You can't get more retro than that, honestly. Hanafuda is the literal beginnings of Nintendo, so if Sakurai wants the namesake of the game to apply to this character, that'd be the way to go!
No, dude. Cranky Kong is a solid DK newcomer. If he's "Retro" then all of the original 12 are technically retro. Retro characters are potentially forgotten with niche followings while Cranky Kong is a (In your face) DK character. Cranky Kong has a certain characterization that sets him apart from actual retro characters while his moveset would be heavily inspired from his heyday.I agree, the arcade DK is extremely important, and would certainly qualify as retro, and DK Jr. is cool and all... but if they really wanted to do Sr. right, they'd double down on the 8-bit references with a playable Cranky Kong (Brawl did mention how he's the original arcade DK after all, so Smash has created precedent for it).
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And arguably, DK Jr. is the DK we already have playable, it would just add to the confusion. Though, I don't think any of it is likely since Sakurai already shared Arcade DK as the memory for Donkey Kong's Ultimate Tweet. Seems like it'd be enough for representing the arcade series.