Official General Post-DLC Discussion [Closed]

[Cutie Gwen]

12 year old detected

>Implying ever person who has the newest Smash Bros is an adult who knows what MK is
Nintendo usually prefers catering to younger audiences, meaning there's a high possibility there a lots of people who own Smash who are kids who haven't heard of Mortal Kombat, and that's an issue MK characters gave. Risk of alienating the people who own Smash

I think an issue here would come from Scorpion showing his skull face.

Hence why I said 99/100. It's been 4 games, over 10 years and when western fans ask for sooo many things, Little Mac being the only character getting in due to western demand doesn't really help, especially as Japan didn't know who he was, and doing that trick with DLC risks alienating Japanese players, not everyone's going to buy the characters because 'ooooh, characters...'

 

[Strong-Arm]

I think an issue here would come from Scorpion showing his skull face.

Whats wrong with the skull face? A skull isn't super graphic or anything.

 

[Ura]

Damn, I had no idea MK 9 & 10 were banned in Japan. Germany also as well.

But y'know, if Scorpion is primarily based on his MK2 appearance, it shouldn't be a problem. Just like with Ryu being based off his SF2 appearance.

 

[Strong-Arm]

MK2 is considered to be the height of the series, and its also the most cartoony one ironically. Its visuals are really saturated and would work VERY well to mix in with smash imo

 

[Schnee117]

I don't see how Scorpion wouldn't work. All he needs is some of his normal attacks, fire attacks, his Spear, teleports, his takedown attack and his supermove from Injustice or "Toasty!" to cover his moveset.

 

[Opossum]

I mean personally, I'd rather have someone else if we got a character owned by WB Games.

In particular...

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So much potential there with a Summoner moveset. He's basically the quintessential summoner character.

Too bad he's definitely not as iconic as the current third parties, and a LOT less known in Japan. I'd be so hyped if he got in though. He'd be at least a secondary day-one.

 

[Kenith]

Damn, I had no idea MK 9 & 10 were banned in Japan. Germany also as well.

But y'know, if Scorpion is primarily based on his MK2 appearance, it shouldn't be a problem. Just like with Ryu being based off his SF2 appearance.

Ryu isn't based on his SF2 appearance at all. It's SF4.
He even has the Focus Attack from that game.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Except Banjo is owned by, oh, I don't know, Nintendo's direct competition? And doesn't even get praise for half of his games?

Microsoft and Sony are not direct competitors, or at least not just that.
Not only has Nintendo come out to call themselves the 'other company' (and is essentialy held by all gamers in a completely different light as those other two), but Sony and Microsoft are prominent players in other industries, which Nintendo may be working with for other reasons (mobile/computer, movies, etc).

Your facts are incorrect, and this is a perpetuated fallacy. Business can be complicated, unlike this simplistic view of competition.

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So much potential there with a Summoner moveset. He's basically the quintessential summoner character.

disagrees. And is owned by Nintendo. And is the protagonist of the second biggest video game franchise. And is a veteran.

..not that anyone else on this forum gives a **** about him. I will still bring him up.

 

[Kenith]

Except Banjo is owned by, oh, I don't know, Nintendo's direct competition? And doesn't even get praise for half of his games?

Nintendo hasn't been directly competing with Microsoft for a long time, mate.

 

[Sceptile4Smash]

Ryu isn't based on his SF2 appearance at all. It's SF4.

Don't forget the fact that his Down B (Focus attack) came straight from SF4.

Also, if I recall correctly, his voice actor here is the same one from SF4.

 

[A Distant Demon]

We are seriously discussing Mortal Kombat kharacters.

If this happened a month ago it would have been one post saying "here is a a cool idea" and then 10 posts saying it isnt and then moving on.

Thank god Cloud was announced after the ballot ended or it may have actually affected things. . .

 

[Strong-Arm]

We are seriously discussing Mortal Kombat kharacters.

If this happened a month ago it would have been one post saying "here is a a cool idea" and then 10 posts saying it isnt and then moving on.

Thank god Cloud was announced after the ballot ended or it may have actually affected things. . .

Is there something overly wrong with MK characters?

 

[Kenith]

We are seriously discussing Mortal Kombat kharacters.

If this happened a month ago it would have been one post saying "here is a a cool idea" and then 10 posts saying it isnt and then moving on.

Thank god Cloud was announced after the ballot ended or it may have actually affected things. . .

Eh as I said yesterday, at least Scorpion's an iconic video game character AND he's had plenty of exposure to Nintendo.
That's a lot more than I can say for Goku, who apparently is possible now.

 

[Kurri ★]

Don't forget the fact that his Down B (Focus attack) came straight from SF4.

Also, if I recall correctly, his voice actor here is the same one from SF4.

SF4 was also on 3DS

 

[SuperNintendoDisney]

Microsoft and Sony are not direct competitors, or at least not just that.
Not only has Nintendo come out to call themselves the 'other company' (and is essentialy held by all gamers in a completely different light as those other two)

Your facts are incorrect, and this is a perpetuated fallacy. Business can be complicated, unlike this simplistic view of competition.

This post comes off super pretentious, don't you think? Speak for yourself when you include "all gamers" in your own opinions. Nintendo can say whatever they want from a public relations standpoint. At the end of the day, the consumer is going to see Nintendos product on the shelf next to Microsofts and Sony, in which they are directly competing for the sale and shoppers money, especially during the holiday

 

[SuperSceptile15]

Because Gen 3 got the bulk of it's trophies in Brawl.
That's the reason.
Because it was retreading old ground. You don't see people complaining about the lack of HG/SS trophies despite that game having come out before Smash 4.

But HG/SS came out over five years ago and is no longer relevant. It isn't the most recent mainline Pokémon game anymore while OR/AS is. And so what if Gen 3 got the bulk of its trophies in Brawl? Why does that matter?

 

[Gimmick]

That moment when you realize you own a PS4, Wii U, PC, and Xbox 1...

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

That moment when you realize you own a PS4, Wii U, PC, and Xbox 1...

I will soon own three out of those four... only one I don't own is Xbox One.

 

[Gimmick]

I will soon own three out of those four... only one I don't own is Xbox One.

Eh... IMO, the Xbox 1 really isn't worth it. The only games I'd really recommend are KI and Halo 5.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Eh... IMO, the Xbox 1 really isn't worth it. The only games I'd really recommend are KI and Halo 5.

What about Dead Rising 3?

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Eh... IMO, the Xbox 1 really isn't worth it. The only games I'd really recommend are KI and Halo 5.

Yeah, I don't intend to get it, the only games that interest me will come to PS4 as well.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

I feel like Dixie Kong and Tetra would have good chances to be in as DLC newcomers due to them being planned for Brawl. I think Plusle and Minun were planned as well.

 

[Gimmick]

What about Dead Rising 3?

I wasn't aware that game was coming out. Anyway, I'm not fan. Game play is solid, but I find the humor off-putting.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I wasn't aware that game was coming out. Anyway, I'm not fan. Game play is solid, but I find the humor off-putting.

'Twas a launch game, mate.

Also, I think the humor is what makes the series so good, but I gotta agree that this element is the "hit or miss" part of the series too.

 

[Sceptile4Smash]

Has there been anything we haven't talked about for Smash DLC yet?

So far, we talked about Indie characters, 3rd party characters, Pokémon, Mortal Kombat characters, Chrom, veterans, "If you were Sakurai", stages, etc.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Has there been anything we haven't talked about for Smash DLC yet?

So far, we talked about Indie characters, 3rd party characters, Pokémon, Mortal Kombat characters, Chrom, veterans, "If you were Sakurai", stages, etc.

Let's talk about impossible characters

 

[Schnee117]

Let's talk about impossible characters

Already done.
He's called Geno.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Already done.
He's called Geno.

You spelled "Goku and Shrek" wrong

EDIT: I was about to add Elsa with these two, but realized that she's already in the game

 

[Arcadenik]

Scorpion from Mortal Kombat would be awesome... especially if his design is based on MKII.

B: Spear (can be used as tether recovery too)
Side+B: Air Throw
Up+B: Teleport Punch
Down+B: Hell's Hand (skeletal hand comes out from lava pit and grabs the opponent... burying the opponent... this was Scorpion's Fatality in MKT 64)
Final Smash: Toasty! (but the opponents get blasted away instead of turning into skeletons)

Taunt 1: MKII Friendship (Scorpion pulls out a Scorpion doll)
Taunt 2: UMK3 Friendship (Scorpion plays with a jack-in-a-box and a skull pops out)
Taunt 3: MKX Taunt (Scorpion sets himself on fire)

Win 1: MK9 Babality (Scorpion turns into a baby and throws a spear and then falls and cries)
Win 2: UMK3 Animality (Scorpion turns into a penguin and lays an egg and it explodes... WTF)
Win 3: MKII winning pose

The Mortal Kombat stage could be the courtyard from the original game.

 

[Gimmick]

Let's talk about Freddy Fazebear and a character from GTA.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Let's talk about impossible characters

Ice Climbers

 

[Kurri ★]

Let's talk about Freddy Fazebear and a character from GTA.

You could have all of the GTA protagonists as different costumes.

 

[Wolfie557]

Ice Climbers

R.I.P till the prophesied awakening in Smash 5.

 

[Gimmick]

You could have all of the GTA protagonists as different costumes.

-The final smash could have them driving a tank, or driving a car through the stage followed by a bunch of police vehicles.
-One there taunts could have a hooke... Never mind.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

GTA in Smash?

Come on! Sakurai's not stupid!

If he's gonna add a character who relies on weaponry, he might as well just bring back Snake instead of adding GTA

Sure, the series is iconic, which fits Sakurai's criteria for DLC, but it just can't fit in Smash. It just can't!

 

[Opossum]

Has there been anything we haven't talked about for Smash DLC yet?

So far, we talked about Indie characters, 3rd party characters, Pokémon, Mortal Kombat characters, Chrom, veterans, "If you were Sakurai", stages, etc.

Chrom is his own separate category all together. This pleases me.


Bringing up Maxwell in my last post really reminded me of just how awesome he'd be in Smash though, haha. Summoning Cthulhu for his Final Smash would just be amazing. I mean, as far as combat, Maxwell has nearly limitless potential. Summon creatures, weaponry, helpers, inanimate objects, and so much more. Add in the ability to alter their actions by using adjectives and you can have a really interesting technical character.

Plus he's not really a stranger to Nintendo crossovers.

He's in a weird spot though...while Warner Bros. owns the character by owning Fifth Cell, it was actually Konami that published the game in Japan, likely due to lack of Warner Bros. presence there. I doubt that'd be a big legal thing though, even with Maxwell being as unlikely as he is.

 

[Sceptile4Smash]

GTA in Smash?

Come on! Sakurai's not stupid!

If he's gonna add a character who relies on weaponry, he might as well just bring back Snake instead of adding GTA

Sure, the series is iconic, which fits Sakurai's criteria for DLC, but it just can't fit in Smash. It just can't!

I rather have a Call of Duty soldier in Smash

 

[Schnee117]

Weaponry you say? I know a good series known for having loads of guns and the perfect character for it.

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Borderlands

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I rather have a CoD soldier in Smash

Then, they'd release another CoD soldier that looks different, but is in fact a complete clone.

That way, Sakurai would stay true to the franchise

 

[Gimmick]

I rather have a Call of Duty soldier in Smash

That's also a good idea. CoD is a legendary franchise.