General ICs Q&A Thread

deepseadiva · Nov 4, 2008

How incredibly lucky for IC mains that all of those are banned. :laugh:

I'll go ahead and say Rainbow Cruise?

Smasher89 · Nov 4, 2008

I think number 3 is like tha answer I wanted, jut thought it was more "controllable".

Mario bros should be kinde good för ICs, CG out of stage, but it´s banned by obvious reasons (marth on that stage anyone?!) Rainbow cruise, easily the worst...

JustNoOne · Nov 4, 2008

Fox and Wolf kill at Mario Bros. No contest there.

smaci92 · Nov 4, 2008

MenoUnderwater said:
Two Questions:

Why do you climbers have no stage threads? Like srsly.

&

As IC mains, what would you agree are the three best and worst stages for the duo?

ya, we have a stage thread by BlueTerrorist: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197584

I personally like smashville, battlefield, Yoshi's Island for the IC's. I don't like any of the counterpick stages when using IC's (luigi's mansion, moving stages...)

lain · Nov 4, 2008

Luigi's actually has the potential to be extremely good for IC's.

smaci92 · Nov 4, 2008

lain said:
Luigi's actually has the potential to be extremely good for IC's.

I suck on luigi's mansion for every character i use

so don't listen to me lol

Smasher89 · Nov 4, 2008

lain said:
Luigi's actually has the potential to be extremely good for IC's.

Agreed, blizzard takes like all the opponents space away for approach when done under the second floor. It´s a big stage so they survive better, and noone survives their grabinfinites anyway so the stage is defensively better for them, offensively almost no difference more than the Usmash kills a little later...

Teh Future · Nov 4, 2008

Hey do you guys know of any way to charge your upsmash during cgs without using the C-stick? I'm using wiimote and chuck and I think there is a way to do it because it will happen sometimes but it's not consistent at all. Right now Im stuck fthrow to bthrow like two more times than I would normally and it sucks when I mess it up.

Fly_Amanita · Nov 4, 2008

A Sonic took me to Luigi's a while ago and I just ran the timer out on him by camping with alternating blizzards, lol.

Teh Future · Nov 4, 2008

^lol. Fly why aren't any of your match vids in the video thread?

Wombatt · Nov 4, 2008

how do i grab with nana?

Funen1 · Nov 4, 2008

Wombatt said:
how do i grab with nana?

When doing an alternate throw, you must have Nana grab the opponent immediately after Popo releases him/her/it (you can still use the grab button even though Popo is doing something else). You may need to move Nana slightly during the throw so that she is within range to grab.

Wombatt · Nov 4, 2008

ty, ive not been able to do any of the ic's grab combos yet, i don't normally use grabs anyway -noob-
lol, off to training.

FrozenHobo · Nov 4, 2008

Wombatt said:
ty, ive not been able to do any of the ic's grab combos yet, i don't normally use grabs anyway -noob-
lol, off to training.

you're not a noob. you don't HAVE to grab with the ICs to be good. its nice to know them, but its not like its a requirement or anything.

Reapd · Nov 4, 2008

Wombatt said:
ty, ive not been able to do any of the ic's grab combos yet, i don't normally use grabs anyway -noob-
lol, off to training.

FrozenPopo said:
you're not a noob. you don't HAVE to grab with the ICs to be good. its nice to know them, but its not like its a requirement or anything.

Yeah, I agree with FrozenPopo. Personally, I suck at grabs and I'm still a decent IC player.
Oh and..... Can anybody with a render explain how to get your render on the web once you have your pic set up to be a render.

smaci92 · Nov 5, 2008

hey, anyone want to answer my question: Is there anything wrong with killing nana at the beginning and using popo the whole game??? cause for some reason I'm amazing with popo and I **** everyone so badly...lol

FrozenHobo · Nov 5, 2008

...well not per-say. i guess if you like playing a SoPo better then thats fine. i'd personally practice SoPo so that should the situation arise where you are alone yo aren't completely defenseless.

smaci92 · Nov 5, 2008

yay! stickied finally! thanks whichever mod did this...

now let's all try to get frozenpopo's IC finder stikied

FrozenHobo · Nov 5, 2008

yay! i think i may have got this done...

the_irish_dude · Nov 5, 2008

i personally play better with popo as well but i would think u would want to do as much damage with both then when nana dies = u win lol. make them think they got u where they want u then. . . WAM! sopo CG then go for the kill

smaci92 · Nov 5, 2008

the_irish_dude said:
i personally play better with popo as well but i would think u would want to do as much damage with both then when nana dies = u win lol. make them think they got u where they want u then. . . WAM! sopo CG then go for the kill

ya I think you're right...I'll play with both of them. but what do you guys think about playing your IC's in sync for the majority of the game?

cause I'm thinking of bringing desyncing in later...

Reapd · Nov 5, 2008

How do you get your render onto your sig? Thanks

FrozenHobo · Nov 5, 2008

put it somewhere like photobucket and then just use the [IMG ] [/IMG ] tags to post the URL.

B0mbe1c · Nov 5, 2008

I rarely ever de-sync during matches because Im mainly focusing on killing them, then focusing on 0-deathing once Re-spawned. I sometimes do the de-synced blizzard/squall combo though, good for racking damage.

smaci92 · Nov 5, 2008

ya I don't desync much, but when I do, it's usually alternating IB's or blizzards. And I like using a walking fsmash with nana just for the lulz :chuckle:

Fly_Amanita · Nov 5, 2008

Desynching is overrated; it's usually better to just stay synched. I only desynch for edgeguarding and camping.

smaci92 · Nov 5, 2008

Fly_Amanita said:
Desynching is overrated; it's usually better to just stay synched. I only desynch for edgeguarding and camping.

ya i saw some of your vids...and that was what made me wonder if desync is really worth it, cause I do better synced.

ChibiIceClimberz · Nov 5, 2008

Eh, I love desynching because it racks up damage from specials, and it feels satisfying on doing it like N Squall -> P Blizzard -> N U-air. But yeah, I normally desynch most of my specials into an aerial. But I synch my aerials and tilts though... obviously.

I never knew desynching was overrated, I thought the chaingrabs were. 0.0

momochuu · Nov 5, 2008

Too much desynching will get you killed. True fact.

FrozenHobo · Nov 5, 2008

...i just sort of go with whatever happens. i don't exactly try to go out of my way to desync (except for the 1-2-3 GO! Desync). i just sort of play and whatever happens, happens. i will admit, i have been going for the grab more and more, but just to set up for an ice block lock... and those screw me up half the time so i really should just stop that.

Diddyknight · Nov 6, 2008

How do you CG above 50%? o.O i tried but they either stay down or just bounce back up too high to Grab again...

and is there any other Stationary CG other than:

p backthrow-> n downthrow -> p backthrow etc
alternating Backthrows

^_^;;

smaci92 · Nov 6, 2008

Diddyknight said:
How do you CG above 50%? o.O i tried but they either stay down or just bounce back up too high to Grab again...

and is there any other Stationary CG other than:

p backthrow-> n downthrow -> p backthrow etc
alternating Backthrows

^_^;;

you just have to practice the timing...alternating grabs are always harder to pull off at high %'s.

Reapd · Nov 6, 2008

Hey guys guess what!!!! I just figured out the timing for back cg's!!!! But I can't get more than 2 throws using it. I know its timing but is there some trick to get nana to throw right away instead of having to wait for popo to move that way?? Thanks Much

B0mbe1c · Nov 6, 2008

Alright, question time!
1) Is tap jump better on or off? (I use off currently)

2) What aerial is best for vertical and horizontal recovery?

Thanks. ^_K

Reapd · Nov 6, 2008

B0mbe1c said:
Alright, question time!
1) Is tap jump better on or off? (I use off currently)

2) What aerial is best for vertical and horizontal recovery?

Thanks. ^_K

Well........... I prefer to have it off because then you don't have to deal with an accidental jump when you're trying to do a tilt move. And I like using n-air and f-air for recovery.

smaci92 · Nov 6, 2008

At reapd: to make nana throw to popo faster, just put popo in his position faster...

At: Bombe1c: tap jump off works better for a lot of people....and fair is best for recovery...

Reapd · Nov 6, 2008

At: smaci92 well ok thanks

B0mbe1c · Nov 7, 2008

Also, move one IC just a little in front of the other IC when fthrowing to reach higher percents w/o reaching the edge. :3

SuSa · Nov 8, 2008

Question:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=159767

Is their a video showcasing all those ways to desynch? If not I want to ask if I should make one ^^; although I haven't -mastered- all of them, I can always edit my 10000 minutes of mistakes and show the correct way, show the correct way in slow motion, tell how its done (first... of course)....

DanGR · Nov 8, 2008

Hey guys!!!

...

I'm wondering what the best way to finish off a p bthrow-> n dthrow chain grab would be. I usually end it with an n bthrow->charged p upsmash, but I don't feel like I'm being as efficient as possible. Is there a different ending I should be using?

Also, I'm having some difficulty with the p bthrow-> n bthrow chaingrab. I can do exactly 4 bthrows before popo is too far from nana to do it again. I'm then forced to n bthrow-> turn around->p grab or just dthrow with nana after the fourth bthrow. I'd like to keep the regular bthrow chaingrab going though.

I could probably upload some short vids of what I'm doing [wrong] if it would help answer my questions.
-thanks in advance

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