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Gears of War 3

MuraRengan

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Retro needs both a damage and bullet spread nerf. It's too accurate while you're blind firing it.
If the purpose of the retro was to combat the Shotguns, then making both these changes might be a little too much. Idk if anyone agrees with me, but the Retro is the most effective DBS counter because it downs quickly without the risk of the opponent getting lucky and getting close enough to kill you. The current retro will beat a DBS in any 1v1 situation.

The problem is, if the retro gets nerfed to where DBS users can get close before dieing, then the DBS will become a problem ebcause DBS users will have even less to worry about when approaching people. As it stands, the retro is the only counter that hurts the DBS on its level. The DBS is an easy weapon to use, but other weapons like the Gnasher, Lancer, and HB aren't and the survival of a player using one of those weapons rests more in the player than it does in the weapon, unlike the DBS. The retro counters this by being another easy to use weapon, but at the same time causes an even bigger problem for the people in the "skill weapon" group. So if the retro gets a damage nerf, then the DBS needs less range, otherwise, it'll become even more of a problem than it already is.

Honestly, Epic should've never decided to cater to new players. I know that's harsh, but the main problems with the beta come just from that idea.

Also, I'm beginning to believe that the gnasher needs a bit of a range decrease, but at the same time the range allows me to chase down DBS users trying to run away after missing without having to risk precious moments by switching weapons.
 

ThreeX

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Last week of the beta, gents ;_;

Finally got my 4.0 w/l in rank tdm >:B My team and I (+1 random) played rank number 1's team today. It's safe to say they are ****ing HORRIBLE (his g/t is something like Ghos7 o187o)


Flame gnasher is pretty cute, but i really hope they do something interesting with this "surprise" they've planned. I heard that mercy + overpass was deleted from the beta to make it a smaller DL.


How do you guys feel about decreasing the fire rate of the retro? Think it'll tone it down a little w/o turning it to complete garbage?
 

Wretched

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I played those guys too.
Did you play the whole team? Their ****ing hammerburst shenanigans.
 

Fuelbi

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Final week of beta?

I ****ing swear if my Internet doesn't get fixed before I get the last 10 kills for my golden lancer I will grab all the kitties and puppies in a pet store and drop them all in an incinerator

:phone:
 
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Last week of the beta, gents ;_;

Finally got my 4.0 w/l in rank tdm >:B My team and I (+1 random) played rank number 1's team today. It's safe to say they are ****ing HORRIBLE (his g/t is something like Ghos7 o187o)


Flame gnasher is pretty cute, but i really hope they do something interesting with this "surprise" they've planned. I heard that mercy + overpass was deleted from the beta to make it a smaller DL.


How do you guys feel about decreasing the fire rate of the retro? Think it'll tone it down a little w/o turning it to complete garbage?
GHOS7 187?! Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaa!

I remember those guys from GoW2! Supreme cheaters of Gears 2, couldn't win without forcing host and standbying. Oh those were the good ol' days.
 

ThreeX

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I played those guys too.
Did you play the whole team? Their ****ing hammerburst shenanigans.
I forget the entire team, but they had a full party. I think 3 had 187 at the end of their name. First round we won they were usin retros/hammer, then they switched but we still ***** them. Honestly, they were ****ing horrible..


GHOS7 187?! Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaa!

I remember those guys from GoW2! Supreme cheaters of Gears 2, couldn't win without forcing host and standbying. Oh those were the good ol' days.
mmmhm, all ghost does is bridge host. It's too bad he can't do it anymore ;_;
 

F8AL

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Still no email :(
They're still sending them out today I heard on Twitter. Check your email later today.

Final week of beta?

I ****ing swear if my Internet doesn't get fixed before I get the last 10 kills for my golden lancer I will grab all the kitties and puppies in a pet store and drop them all in an incinerator

:phone:
Better hurry, the beta ends on the 15th. (Sunday)

I never got an e-mail and I've completed 4 of those tasks. Looks like Epic failed yet again.
Still sending them out, check back later today.
 

Wretched

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I have two.
If anyone REALLY needs one for HIS OR HERSELF, then I have an extra code, but only if someone really needs it.
 

Master Xanthan

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I experienced an odd glitch today, at the end of the match, it said I unlocked the Flame Hammerburst and not the Flame Gnasher, so I left the lobby after the match ended to check my weapons, but I didn't have the flame camo for the Hammerburst. But I DO have the flame camo for the Gnasher.
 

Wretched

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Yep, that happened to everyone.
Also, every time I unlock a new camouflage or character, it will reset me to the default character for up to five games, regardless of how I change it in the menu(s).
 
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Wooo I got 2 codes yeeeaah.

If anyone wants one, feel free to give up your soul via PM in return for one of my codes. :demon:
 

MuraRengan

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The last 4 days of KotH I've played have been infested with Sawed-Off/Retro users. KotH is not very fun at all anymore. Every match is a chore where the only pleasure I derive is from beating Sawed-Off/Retro teams, but now they've become aware of how these guns work, and just winning a match against them has become a task. Retro users prevent you from ever approaching the circle, and Sawed-off users just rush you while you try to hide from the retro fire. It's not fun, even though we still win most of the time, even though I still get as many kills as I normally do. It's just not fun. Now any time I roll without a team of 4-5 players, winning a match is a coin flip. I don't like that I have to try my *** off just to lose to people who can play with a quarter of their brain power just because Epic decided to add two weapons that make the game easy for scrubs. I guess it never occurred to them that if it's easy for scrubs, it'll be ridiculous for people with experience. There's really nothing fun about this beta anymore.
 

The Real Gamer

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I don't like that I have to try my *** off just to lose to people who can play with a quarter of their brain power just because Epic decided to add two weapons that make the game easy for scrubs. I guess it never occurred to them that if it's easy for scrubs, it'll be ridiculous for people with experience.
Hit the nail on the head here I just can't stand getting killed by randoms with Sawed Offs when I know for a fact that I could have wall-bounced the **** of them if the DBS didn't have such a ridiculous horizontal bullet spread.

Don't get me wrong I've still managed to keep a high K/D but the amount of skill required to be good at Gears is pretty much thrown out of the window thanks to the Retro and especially the DBS.

I swear casuals ruin everything.
 

Wretched

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Xanthan, if you want to know if you're truly being wronged, check to see if you have an email from Epic/Microsoft from about a week ago. It should talk about the ways you can receive the code.
If you don't have it, you should look around on your account to ensure that you are checking the correct E-Mail account.
 

Pluvia

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Give the sawn off the ability to only kill, not damage, and nerf the retro.

There you go, both guns are now balanced. Also reduce the range on the Gnasher sniper.
 

Master Xanthan

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Xanthan, if you want to know if you're truly being wronged, check to see if you have an email from Epic/Microsoft from about a week ago. It should talk about the ways you can receive the code.
If you don't have it, you should look around on your account to ensure that you are checking the correct E-Mail account.
I bought microsoft points recently and I got an email from Microsoft about that. But nothing yet about the codes. So I think its the right email. Thanks anyway. I went on the Gears forums and some people are saying they still don't have their codes yet either so at least I'm not alone.
 

The Real Gamer

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Give the sawn off the ability to only kill, not damage, and nerf the retro.

There you go, both guns are now balanced. Also reduce the range on the Gnasher sniper.
For once I can actually agree with you.

I really like that first suggestion too... Too bad it will never happen.
 

Wretched

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I don't agree that the gnasher range should be reduced, but rather, the spread should be exponentially increased at such ranges so that it is harder to do higher amounts of damage at said ranges.
 

Pluvia

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How I would balance weapons:

Decrease the power on the Plancer. That's it, it could even keep its accurate blind fire because it wouldn't be nearly as damaging with decreased power.

Sawn Off: Kill only. If your outside its kill range it does no damage.

And Digger and Inks, make the Digger move faster, because seriously it's nigh impossible to hit anyone outside of close range if they're looking at you, and give us 2 Inks or make the Ink stronger.

And of course shorter range on the Gnasher, or what Wretched said because that's pretty much the exact same thing.

:phone:
 

MuraRengan

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Apparently weapon tweaks were implemented today. There is no official list of changes, however cliff has confirmed that the lancer has had a damage buff. One mod said that the sawed off now has a "25% chance of downing at 2x range." Interpret as you will. I played one match today, and no changes are very noticable. The servers aren't up right now, so it's hard to say definitively whether or not the changes matter, right now it seems like they don't.
 
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They buffed my lancer! <3

I'm assuming that they nerfed the Retro, but I won't be able to check for myself.
 

The Real Gamer

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make the Digger move faster, because seriously it's nigh impossible to hit anyone outside of close range if they're looking at you:phone:
The Digger is a pretty overrated power weapon I very rarely get killed by it and am able to dodge its shots quite frequently.

Is it me or is sniping a LOT easier than it was in GoW2? Maybe it's just better hit detection or something but I'm getting a lot more headshots with it.
 

Wretched

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Actually, a lot of people don't know how to use it properly. Shoot it as you would a short range noobtube, and it will fly at an arch at a higher speed. It won't make the digging sound either.
 

Pluvia

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Turns out if you're the leader, and someone is retro charges you, you take damage but don't die. But if you retro charge headfirst into someone retro charging at you, you both die!

Yes, I got killed as the leader on CTL tonight. I saw him charging me from a distance so I charged him back knowing I had teammates near me to revive me if need be, and that I was immortal due to being the leader. We smacked headfirst into each other, he EXPLODED, and I fell over backwards dead.

We lost the round because it stopped giving my team respawns, and it told all of them in bold letters "YOUR LEADER HAS BEEN ASSASINATED!"
 

Master Xanthan

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Turns out if you're the leader, and someone is retro charges you, you take damage but don't die. But if you retro charge headfirst into someone retro charging at you, you both die!

Yes, I got killed as the leader on CTL tonight. I saw him charging me from a distance so I charged him back knowing I had teammates near me to revive me if need be, and that I was immortal due to being the leader. We smacked headfirst into each other, he EXPLODED, and I fell over backwards dead.

We lost the round because it stopped giving my team respawns, and it told all of them in bold letters "YOUR LEADER HAS BEEN ASSASINATED!"
Wow I didn't even know that was possible. Now that's something they should tell you during those loading screens.
 

MuraRengan

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Turns out if you're the leader, and someone is retro charges you, you take damage but don't die. But if you retro charge headfirst into someone retro charging at you, you both die!

Yes, I got killed as the leader on CTL tonight. I saw him charging me from a distance so I charged him back knowing I had teammates near me to revive me if need be, and that I was immortal due to being the leader. We smacked headfirst into each other, he EXPLODED, and I fell over backwards dead.

We lost the round because it stopped giving my team respawns, and it told all of them in bold letters "YOUR LEADER HAS BEEN ASSASINATED!"
That's strange. I've always wondered if there was a fail-safe to avoid leader abuse. I've always wanted to hold frags as leader, and blow people up if they every downed me, knowing my immortality would save me. I wonder if that will get me killed as well. I must try it.

Two new videos:

My first Godlike

Reply to a gnasher vs dbs video.
 
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Does rolling in Gears 3 Beta make you move around faster like in Gears 2?

Cause if not, stop rolling Mura! I thought I was watching Gears 2 for a second there.
 
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