Ganon's Fair is God Tier

[UltiMario]

Project M Ganon geneal thread?

Let's get some PM Ganons up in here.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I think his Bair is better tbh.

And Flame Choke is probably better than both of them

 

[Mr.Pickle]

I agree with the above post.

 

[GHNeko]

All you need is wavelanding out of Bair and DACUS to win.

But seriously. TK Flame choke is easily his best tool.

 

[UltiMario]

I do love Flame Choke, I admit.

 

[KOkingpin]

Murder Choke to DACUS Tech chase all day baby. Works on the majority of the cast.

 

[MarioNPinkie]

Ganondorf's flame choke is pretty beast

 

[cannedbread]

that dacus though

 

[GHNeko]

but what about that auto canceled nair?

that's such a good move now.

 

[DrinkingFood]

What if like, he could choose between flame choke and melee side-b
Wouldn't that be cool guys, then side-b would be way more useful of more characters, especially as a tech chase-> side-b->guaranteed finisher combo on the faster falling characters at appropriate percents
Not a real suggestion though because that's not allowed
Just discussing what I would suggest if I could suggest
What do you people think about my metasuggestions

 

[Mr. Happy :)]

What if like, he could choose between flame choke and melee side-b
Wouldn't that be cool guys, then side-b would be way more useful of more characters, especially as a tech chase-> side-b->guaranteed finisher combo on the faster falling characters at appropriate percents
Not a real suggestion though because that's not allowed
Just discussing what I would suggest if I could suggest
What do you people think about my metasuggestions

He already can kill everyone in five hits, does he need more?

 

[Scythe]

ganon is a top tier teams character

 

[DrinkingFood]

He already can kill everyone in five hits, does he need more?

Just to make his five hits land a little more consistently

 

[KOkingpin]

but what about that auto canceled nair?

that's such a good move now.

Full Hop Up Air into first hit Nair. Its a great baiting tool.

 

[Steam]

I dunno. I think ftilt is ganon's best move lol.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I'm the best Ganon

 

[Scythe]

you kind of lose all your points for playing on wifi though

 

[DMG]

I am the best Manondorf

 

[Steam]

I am the best G-dorf

 

[ItsRainingGravy]

Manondorf

All of my Yes.

Also, fixed topic title would be: "Manondorf is God Tier"

 

[RaphaelRobo]

What if like, he could choose between flame choke and melee side-b
Wouldn't that be cool guys, then side-b would be way more useful of more characters, especially as a tech chase-> side-b->guaranteed finisher combo on the faster falling characters at appropriate percents
Not a real suggestion though because that's not allowed
Just discussing what I would suggest if I could suggest
What do you people think about my metasuggestions

I think he's already good enough without that, although it'd be awesome to have.

Personally, I'd give him back his melee ground side-b, but keep the aerial flame choke.

 

[DMG]

I miss grounded side B. That is all I miss, and the aerial version of it basically makes up for it

 

[tangyzizzler]

Magus's Ganon is the best; I'd go as far to say it's better (and flashier, lul) than Kage's

but Kage's would probably win in Melee

and you guys are all noobs; Ganon's best move is Reverse Aerial Rushed Uairs

it makes me feel both sad and godlike to know I'm currently the only person alive ledgehogging with Ganon properly:

dash towards ledge -> Reverse Aerial Rush (input opposite direction JUST before jumping) -> Uair or Bair -> Fast Fall -> Jump -> yet another Uair or Bair -> Up+B back to ledge

you're welcome

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

I think we all know Utilt is his best move.

 

[DMG]

tangy, that stuff isn't new lol. Doing RAR Uairs for edgeguards as Ganon has at least been done by people from Brawl familiar with it for awhile now. Or RAR Dair so you are facing the edge and can grab it easier. It's been done my good man.

 

[GHNeko]

rar uairs is like ganon:m 101

 

[DMG]

Same with Bair. Edge guarding with Ganon just got easier and simpler.

 

[BRLNK88]

Is it true that Kage quit PM because of Lucario?

If so, that's a damn shame...

 

[batistabus]

He did a decent amount of criticizing of 2.1 Lucario, but since 2.5 addressed most of these complaints, I think he should be fine. I'm pretty sure I've seen some posts from him about interest in fighting people in PM recently (even Lucario specifically).

 

[GHNeko]

He hasn't played 2.5 yet tho.

 

[mars16]

His f tilt is the best f* moving in the game!! SPARTA!!!!

But flame choke is cool to...

I also like his down b, its so much stronger

 

[DMG]

Is it? I was nearly certain his Down B was the same strength, and it was REALLY strong in Melee lol. Spacies would get gimped from getting hit by it at like 30 lol.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

I'm pretty sure it's the same strength, although my memory is that there's a slight difference in the way the foot is stretched out between the two games. Or maybe I'm thinking of Dtilt being different.

 

[DMG]

Dtilt is just 1 leg in PM, in Melee it was Falcon's Dtilt with both legs

 

[Steam]

P:M Lucario is the the thing I hate most about P:M. every change was good except for the on hit cancels, which forces him to be completely one-dimensional and ruins him IMO. he's no fun to play (how do people find dial-a-combo gratifying?) and he's irritating to face (herp derp 50-50 mixups/spacing...means nothing to me). he's like marvel... and **** marvel.

 

[DMG]

Duh. We didn't ask for Magneto or Wolverine lol.

 

[KayB]

I'm surprised that his dair doesn't get any love around here.

 

[DMG]

Too busy using Fair and grabbing, my bad

Out of CG, you can also Aerial Side B people. It's a ****in nasty mixup that can lead into another grab when the CG would normally end, or get you an easier tech chase. You can also use it to place people closer to the edge of the stage for a quicker kill. Dunno how many people take advantage of it, but it's great.

 

[sodapopSquid]

Aerial flame-Chock , Dair, and then UP smash, Fair.

I've killed most light weights with this at like, 10%.

 

[cannedbread]

is it a trend for ganon mains to john about lucario? it's so cute