This is just where we differ, I suppose. Because the Metroid 3 song you linked to, I would call ambient. And the Sonic '06 song you linked to, I would call orchestral with some electronic noises infused within. I understand what you're saying when you say they fit their games, but they don't seem exclusively video game-y to me. I think you can find songs like those in other, pre-established genres of music.
It's not that they can't go into other genres, it's more that they fit very well in video games. And also, maybe I've just never really looked into those genres, but I've only ever heard those types of music in video games or as video game remixes on YouTube or Newgrounds.
Also, I would call Open Your Heart and Live and Learn straight up rock songs. They were written for video games, but they're pure rock to me. You could slap both of them on an old Motley Crue record, get Vince Neil to record new vocals for them, and no one would bat an eyelash.
Well, yeah. They are pretty much straight-up rock songs, but at the same time they fit perfectly in with the mood. Whereas if you threw something like American Idiot (just off the top of my head) into there, it just wouldn't fit. When you listen to those two songs, they have this certain feeling to them. It's hard for me to describe.
I get what you mean when you say it sounds like something in a Disney movie, but I feel that classic, animated Disney movies and Mario games are largely trying to offer similar experiences. Much like animated Disney movies, Mario games have a very young, colorful, cheeriness about them. Even at their darkest moments, Mario games keep a sense of comedy. The adventures that Mario goes on are meant to be very simple and accessible, offering something that even very young children can enjoy. Even the villains are cute and non-threatening for the most part.
I can see where you're coming from...on the other hand, Mario is a video game and Disney movies are movies. It makes sense on paper, but when you put it into action, Mario's just too different from Disney through every other aspect for it to be so Disney-sounding. I've never been a huge Mario connoisseur, but it doesn't feel right for Mario to be equated to Disney, as much as they can be compared.
In the end, I think the music just felt sort of soulless to me in a way, which only contributed to the feeling of utter blandness I left the game with.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on Galaxy, because I feel that the use of an orchestra is very fitting for something as grandiose as flying through space, and I feel that the light-hearted structures of some of the songs work very well for a not-so-serious, but still large-scale adventure. I haven't played the game in a while, but I don't recall any of the songs bothering me, and I can say that I think the song you linked to fit the feeling just fine.
Different strokes.
Yeah, suum cuique (to each his own, in Latin). I definitely know what you mean, the orchestral music does seem, again, to fit with the whole theme on paper, but in-game I just...highly disliked it.
Just for kicks I'm going to argue this one in the style of firusthehedgehog.
Real funny. Act like a complete jerk and then say you're arguing like me. Also, don't use the correct capitalization for my name either. Thanks for being mature about it, when I wasn't even talking to you, much less saying anything degrading or disrespectful to you (unless you're THAT offended by me disliking NHL '09).
There's a tutorial to help you. Puck goes in the net.
Yeah, I don't argue with sarcastic comments like this, taking things out of context.
Yes it is. Help yourself to a cookie.
Again. Sarcastic and out of context.
Fair enough. For the record, mario sports games barely constitute actual sports games at all. Mario Strikers in particular can't really call itself a soccer game.
Precisely my point. Sports don't interest me, so only something that's much different from a regular sport does. I know, I'm a guy who hates sports -- who'd have thought?
Yes, correct again. Though i've already covered why this one's quite different to your average reiteration.
Yes, but it's still a new game every year that is still VERY similar to the same thing. Regular game franchises feel much different from game to game most of the time.
Wrong. A good hockey game is a good video game. Stupid, prejudiced and uninformed.
You read incorrectly. I said "Good
FOR a hockey game =/= Good
FOR a video game." Sonic Unleashed is good
FOR recent Sonic games. But is it good
FOR video games in general? Not really. The Werehog aspect is completely stupid.
No, the appearance of another Super Mario Galaxy fan has caused you to **** your pants again, and you got some of it all down yet another thread.
What...? Do you have any sort of concept of mature arguing in you? That doesn't even make SENSE.
I have been since you posted all about how Sonic Adventure 2 was better than Pikmin and Galaxy. But thanks for giving me the blessing to continue to do so.
Again, you present me with your annoying sarcasm.
And wow, are you really that immature that you ignore someone if they disagree with you? IT'S CALLED AN OPINION. If you don't like opposing ones, GTFO of forums. That's what they're for.
Y'know, I try to have respect for people even if I highly disagree with them, and there was nothing flame-y about my post. Your sarcastic tone, flaming of me, and comments that seem to have no purpose other than to spite me because...oh, I don't even remember, I just know I disagreed with you once before. Oh that's right, I didn't like Mad World and then you accused me of being a fanboy all the time, then when asked how that was true at all you just backed off from the argument. I suppose I'm now your lifelong enemy, huh? Darn those opinions, too bad we don't live in a totally conformist, communist society where everyone is the same, mirite?
God knows why I replied to you, though. You're clearly a troll (and now it occurs to me that, since you can't accept that I like SA2 more than Pikmin and SMG, that you are, ironically, a fanboy).
