Yo Rake, let's have a chat session so I can clear up how one half of me feels about you. I'll ask you some questions and you can ask me some, sound cool? (I'm going to assume you're cool with this)
Consider the situation if dabuz is scum, who do you pick as the other scum?
When did you formulate the ideas in you #365, before or as you posted?
Finally, how does Soup flipping town affect your read on the game?
Q1) If Dabuz were to flip goon, I would have to go back and look for connections on who was calling Dabuz scum where, how they did it, if they pushed too hard / light for it at the time, whether or not they stuck to it or let it ride, stuff of that nature I believe would be the right way to look for the traitor. That being said, because the traitor has to play a pro-town game , i doubt they would slip up and be so obvious about it.
So following that logic i would have to go back and look at Zen and Dark Horse.
If Dabuz flipped traitor (idk how this works lynch wise , the OP says "You are aligned with the town and you will flip 'Townie' upon your death " so can we ever really know if someone was traitor ) anyway lets assume you can flip traitor, i would look directly at who Dabuz pushed where , the timing of the push , how hard he pushed them and for how long , to see if i can find any relevant connections between him and the person he had a confirmed scum on.
So because Dabuz has only made some light pushes that i can recall at this point (One push on me (i guess asking about games is a push ? IDK. ) (Another small push on Zen, were they went back and forth a little wrt Zen`s way of clearing DH of the traitor role) , He also made a small push at DH iirc about his reasoning on voting BW.
So once again it goes to Zen and Dark Horse.
Q2)
I formulated most of it on the go (i.e my feelings on the slots to that point (i.e the point where Ran asked) my reads are for lack of better words , evolving constantly , so when i did that reads post it was my updated feelings up to and including that time).
However the Dabuz one i had been thinking about previously to that post,(to be accurate ) around the time were BW gave Dabuz a town read for scum hunting , were i didn`t fully agree with that (yes he had light pushes and i believe in one of my posts i talked about this) but when BW posted that , i sorta thought is Dabuz scum hunting ? Maybe in his own way but certainly not enough to put him as town (i had Dabuz as town at that time for separate reasons IIRC).
Q3) Soup flipping town means I definitely want to look closer at his reads and the reasons behind them, so IIRC he mentioned Dabuz , Jummoner (Snoozer) and myself , so I will be exploring that closer.
Now I have some questions for you:
1) Why are you voting Dabuz , besides agreeing with Rans point on him ?
2) Do you agree with any of my points , or do you have a different reason in addition to what Ran brought up to be voting Dabuz ?
3) When Ran posted:
`Yes. I found Dabuz to be active lurking, and that's all I have. I just feel like he is trying to hide a bit more than usual because he knows he'd be lynched easily. `
Did you take it as a scum read , a null read or how did you interpret it ?
4) J head said she liked Soup more, Soup has flipped town, how does the J heads reads change or do they change at all ? Does Soups death impact the Zen read ?
5) Which one of the heads would have been on the BW wagon and for what reasons ?
6) Top scum pick (besides Dabuz)
7) Top town read so far
Also of course I am cool with some Q&A
