FRIENDLY FIRE Presents: SSBM - Storrs, CT - April 11th [Plus] SETUPS NEEDED!!!

[_milktea]

Interesting.

Samikay, why is the title of this post so small?! BIGGAR! I'm interested hmmm.

 

[Samikay]

i dont know how to change the title

 

[Mogwai]

double click the title when you're in tournament listings.

 

[Samikay]

thanks, now it pops more, i think

 

[_V_]

This **** should get stickied because it is my last tournament as an East Coaster

 

[SPAWN]

Samikay, could you edit the title and add in _V_'s last tournament before he moves to West Coast?

It may help attract some attention.

 

[_V_]

Back when I had a post count it might have mattered

I think everyone forgot who I was

 

[SPAWN]

V, you're the creator of the ct thread. No one can EVER forget you.

Thanks, Samikay.

 

[_V_]

My hype for this does not seem to be working >.> lol

 

[Mogwai]

there's a No Johns featuring Mango on this date, GHEY.

edit: probably still going to this, but ****, Mango... I'm just now thinking about bouncing early and going to No Johns

 

[Samikay]

Okay so the tournament is in one week, its time to discuss setups. The store is providing a few, but we decided to use the entire store for Smash so we need some more setups. Anybody who brings in a 22" or more TV and a Gamecube/Wii + melee will get their Venue fee completely waived. Stipulation being you must announce that you are bringing a setup beforehand either via email to friendlyfiregc@gmail.com or on the boards here. K thnx

 

[SPAWN]

I'm bringing a 22 inch tv /wii and melee.

 

[Roman.]

same .

 

[SPAWN]

Actually the tv I'm bringing is 19/20" is that okay or no?

 

[Samikay]

For you, Spawn? Everythingss okay... ;D

 

[SPAWN]

<3 Thanks man. Strong homo.

 

[Roman.]

so.... who else is going?

 

[Spife]

I guess NE's honorary Link main ( who doesn't beat people) should grace the tourny, I'll go. I mean, I'm doing it for you guys, not for me.

 

[SPAWN]

:D Spife is going! Hoorayyyyy. :D <3 Spife.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Anybody want to team lol

 

[Mogwai]

If Cog is actually going to this, that means I have to come. But I am definitely bouncing after I win singles to get to No Johns in time to play with Mango.

 

[thumbswayup]

I won't be at this. I definitely would have teamed with you Cog. Any chance you're going to SPOC?

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Nope not really I don't really travel far due to grown up life johns

Mogwai team with my peach?

 

[Mogwai]

I doubt I'll stay for teams . I need to make it to No Johns by a reasonable hour to play Mang0 since I can't make SPOC.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Oh is teams 2nd? ok

 

[SPAWN]

Samikay, is this being seeded? I can help you with seeding because I play smash wayyyy too much lol.

Also, what tournament organizer program is being used?

 

[Samikay]

Yes we will seed this tournament. We will seed as many people as we can and know, and the rest will just be seeded based on order of signup, so the last noob to show up gets pwned. We use a bracket builder program that doesnt update itself and we have to manually type in all the names on fireworks and reexport the image to post it on the tv. Whats a good bracketing program so i can check it out?

 

[Mogwai]

tio

you can get it on AiB somewhere... I'll edit it into here...

EDIT:
here

http://allisbrawl.com/tio/

download is on the right side

 

[SPAWN]

Tio is amazing. You can generate a bracket based on location and skill and all that other stuff... I think.

Can I help with seeding though? Obviously not by myself because that'd be incredibly biased, but with another person maybe? That's what Jam had me and Zoso do and his bracket came out amazing.

 

[Mogwai]

Alukard would beg to differ... -_-

Making sure brackets rock is difficult and tio is far from perfect (but probably the best free solution available).

 

[Roman.]

i'll help seed since im gosu

 

[_V_]

Gosu is by far the best word ever.

When you're seeding just remember:

V > Nus

 

[SPAWN]

Alukard had to fight other NY people. It was inevitable. Tristate is too good. There were also only 17 people in the bracket or something so there was no way to not fight a NY person.

 

[Mogwai]

Alukard had to fight other NY people. It was inevitable. Tristate is too good. There were also only 17 people in the bracket or something so there was no way to not fight a NY person.

there's a very easy way actually. you look at the bracket, you say there are 4 people from NYC and make sure that they would only play each other in winner's bracket by being the final 4, it's easy, give them the 1,2,3,4 seeds, or like, 1,2,3,5 or like, any combination that doesn't involve 1 and 8, 2 and 7, 3 and 6, or 4 and 5. not that I entirely agree with his reaction, but still, it isn't difficult.

edit: to clarify the problem was playing in the round of 8, not just playing a new yorker.

 

[pockyD]

the rest will just be seeded based on order of signup

hahahahaha

edit: and playing in the ro8 isn't really that bad, since seeding by skill should take precedent over seeding by region

unless that wasn't done either

 

[Samikay]

I actually think it makes sense to seed by region as well as skill (obviously to an extent). Nobody wants to travel 2 or 3 hours just to play the same people they play back home. Plus, its double elim, the top 2 players will make it to the finals. If you dont agree with 3rd place then ****in money match 'em for all their winnings. Id enjoy watching that. high stakes melee...

Anyway, once we end registration, ill pull spawn and whoever else i trust aside and we'll seed as well as we can, taking into account several things but more or less based on overall skill, but if anybody calls matchup johns theyll be forced to play as Kirby, because Kirby has no bad matchups.

edit: pockyd's sig... just lol.

 

[nealdt]

Alukard would beg to differ... -_-

Making sure brackets rock is difficult and tio is far from perfect (but probably the best free solution available).

Have any suggestions for improvements? PM me if so .

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

skill seeding > region seeding
no johns

 

[Mogwai]

as I recall, top 8 was pretty clear for don't get grabbed, it was:

HBK
Hazz
G$
Zoso
Mogwai
Spawn
Alukard
Skler

I honestly think that after Hazz and HBK, the seeding for 3-7 was interchangeable due to relatively close skill levels and making small shifts for the sake of region is an easy way to make sure that people are satisfied with the tourney. I mean, if I were doing seeding for that group of people, my first draft of seeds would be:

1. HBK
2. Hazzard
3. ZoSo
4. G$
5. Alukard
6. Skler
7. Spawn
8. Mogwai

At which point, switching Alukard and Skler is easy, doesn't really hurt the integrity of the bracket seeding, and ensures that NYC players (who traveled the furthest for the tourney) won't have to play each other in winner's bracket until it was mathematically inevitable.

Have any suggestions for improvements? PM me if so .

I've been trying to think of good ways to seed based off multiple criteria (skill, region and crew to be specific), but as I'm sure you're well aware, doing that all with a program is far from trivial. I've also been playing around with ideas about a dynamic loser's bracket in the interest of making sure that people don't get knocked out of both winner's and loser's by the same player, but this, too, is difficult and would probably be hard to make people sign off on since people like the transparency of a standard bracket with losers going to set positions. They've mostly been idle thoughts from me as of right now, but if I ever take it a little more seriously and come up with something I'll pm you. Out of curiosity, what is tio coded in?

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

lol have every 1st round winner's bracket match and then re-seed for the loser's bracket? interesting