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foxs infinite shine?

BrandonOwnageking

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i recently saw a video and the fox player started to do shine over and over again very quickly. Is it done by wavedashing out of the reflector and then shining again? can someone help?
 

Miharu

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Read the various stickies next time.

It's most likely JC shining, where you jump to cancel the shine, then shine again before you leave the ground. Waveshining's usually too slow for that.
 

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not to be overly picky, but you actually shine in the first frame after leaving the ground (frame 4). its the same frame you would airdodge on to wd.
 

IrArby

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Its funny but I'm at work ryt now so I don't have the game in front of me but I'm guessing that this shine-JC-shine combo would be really difficult to pull off simply because you'd either have to JC with X/Y meaning your thumbs gotta jump from one of those two down to B really freakin fast or you've gotta jump with the directional stick and quickly jerk it down again to shine really freakin fast.

Sounds hard as crap so correct me if theres an easier way cause I'm still pretty new to fox.
 

SCOTU

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not to be overly picky, but you actually shine in the first frame after leaving the ground (frame 4). its the same frame you would airdodge on to wd.
yes. you shine again on frame 4. However, you have a significantly larger window to air dodge in order to wavedash (you have to shine on frame 4, to air dodge, there's a really large window).

Its funny but I'm at work ryt now so I don't have the game in front of me but I'm guessing that this shine-JC-shine combo would be really difficult to pull off simply because you'd either have to JC with X/Y meaning your thumbs gotta jump from one of those two down to B really freakin fast or you've gotta jump with the directional stick and quickly jerk it down again to shine really freakin fast.

Sounds hard as crap so correct me if theres an easier way cause I'm still pretty new to fox.
No. more or less, you just need fast fingers. other than that, it's not very hard. Best way is to slide your thumb from y>b (but not back).
 

SCOTU

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You gotta love it more with falco though, the rapid shines are really good shield pressure-rs.
Lol. no. Falco's is slower w/ less net shield stun. Fox's jc shine is just better period.

well duh. but WD sucks when you dont WD on frame 4.
you still have a several frame window to have a wavedash with enough length to do any maneuver outside of waveshining luigi.
 

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maybe for you, but i prefer maximum mobility, and thats what i come to expect. i dont even have to watch frames to know if im a frame off.
 

SCOTU

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i was simply stating that you have a larger window for a useable (if not perfect) wavedash. sure, a perfect wavedash isn't obtainable if you don't WD asap, but you still have a rather large window for a WD that will give you enough distance to, say, waveshine marth. It's all about the dash afterwards. I'm also not saying i don't do my wavedashes asap, i'm merely saying you don't have to.
 

GOTM

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waveshining in place is effective like this if you do it fast enough.

not many people can JC shine infinite. you gotta be real consistent and have very fast hands

edit: im assuming you guys mean against a wall, because theres no way to waveshine someone by JC shines LOL
 
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