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ICs are pretty good when they're sitting still and you try to approach them. They suuuuuuck as soon as they move or do basically anything, so I try to find ways to make them jump/run at me/do anything aggressive - then punish that
I noted in the first game at least that you seemed to do a lot of 45 degree angle Firefox's. Which happens to be the CPU default recover so everyone knows that try and mix that up. Also not sure on this but foxs SHFFL nair I think guaranteed combos into shine also mix up approaches not just nair. Dair shine, grab, running shine. Less full hops
In the first game against the falco he seemed to throw out a bunch of unnecessary aerials these can be DD whiff punished with a lot of stuff. Nair, grab, shine etc..
Play the game. Shine stall can work. Immediate side b. Change ur angle
Platform camp to avoid grabs and bait out unsafe approaches. Try your best to keep nana seperated from popo. Having strong movement out of shine really helps in this matchup.
Laser camping is good for building percent. As for approaches, shield stops are useful especially if the luigi plans on stopping your approach with something like wavedash back>dsmash, which you can punish oos.
If they tech the platform, you can full hop>waveland down>regrab. If they miss the tech, wait for a getup and full hop>upair. Full hop>upair also works if they tech but you have to react fast and it isn't reliable imo
dont worry about swag options and get your bnb down. its just like wavelanding on any other platform
Yes downthrow is a good option against samus for a tech chase situation. check out this vid for some match up points.
It's a 50/50 situation from u-throw. You either go for the tech in place or you wait to react to the other options.
If dair isn't comboing into shine, it's likely because he was airborne when you hit. His landing animation cancels the hitstun of your dair, and he can shine you during your own landing recovery. It could also be that you're starting dair so early that it's finishing before you get close to the ground.
I disagree with never uthrowing Samus simply because you can't combo her with uair. Firstly, assuming that everyone will avoid your uair is faulty thinking. Humans aren't perfect, what if you wait for the bomb jump and catch a predictable Samus who's just mashing buttons? Don't give them the benefit of the doubt, try it first to see if you can get any mileage out of it. You might be removing a tool out of your kit just because it's a good idea on paper.
I think reslived is pretty off the mark in almost everything he analyzes in this video regarding downthrow, considering that samus is hilariously weak while coming down (what's she gonna do, dair?). He neglects to mention the enormous positional advantage you get from throwing samus in the air, which I think is substantial enough to warrant doing it virtually every single time.
What does rta viable mean?
rta viable = not tas-only
Does pivot grab cover it?
I think pivot grab does cover this conditional on there being enough time to pivot grab (i.e. before marth typically starts delaying regrab, ~17ish iirc) so this more of a low% thing
Played against a pretty good marth today, was trying to implement slight DI like you said at low % regrab stuff. It was working pretty well, his pivot grab game isnt up to snuff
