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Dude, have any of you watched Smallville? Flash has speed but no power whatsoever. Clark has decent enough speed plus plenty of knockback.
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Flash vs Superman
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Bowser King
Have It Your Way
Flash is like MK! Fast with close to no lag. He also has a few good KO moves so he doesn't need to worry. Also, you can't hit a MK just like you can't hit flash.
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Bowser King
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No. Clark has all super-armor frames. Flash couldn't do jack.Flash is like MK! Fast with close to no lag. He also has a few good KO moves so he doesn't need to worry. Also, you can't hit a MK just like you can't hit flash.
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Though I agree that Superman > Flash, Smallville isn't exactly the best source of information when it comes to DC...
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I haaaaaate Smallville. It got so redundant so fast. No progress was ever made.
Leacero
Smash Lord
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/tdil.html#c3
http://www.lbl.gov/MicroWorlds/teachers/massenergy.pdf
But yeah, Smallville has no credibility.
AllBetsOnJames
Smash Cadet
no matter how BA DC makes superman to be it seems like everytime they make him fight another superhero he gets owned....like i beliee him and batman faught a few times and batman won 3 of them.....so batman a guy with no powers owns superman....just think what someone with powers...aka the flash could do....he could just run real quik grab some kryp and stab superman in the chest with it...game over
Geist
Smash Master
In the original superman comics, he was absolutely invincible. He was so broken, they had to literally find a way to kill him or else the comic would have completely collapsed into its own plot.
That's about as broken as metaknight in Brawl, if he was in an F15 fighter jet and **** armies of flaming knives and an army of himselves in F15's.
Except now he's only good for crappy movie adaptations where he gets shot in the eye, which crushes the bullet, and then ducks when they throw the gun at him.
That's about as broken as metaknight in Brawl, if he was in an F15 fighter jet and **** armies of flaming knives and an army of himselves in F15's.
Except now he's only good for crappy movie adaptations where he gets shot in the eye, which crushes the bullet, and then ducks when they throw the gun at him.
Flamingo
Smash Lord
It's kind of gay having an indestructible superhero... at least make him use his superhuman reflexes instead of just being pompous and letting it hit him. Hopefully the next one is doused in Kryptonite. Screw you superman.
E.G.G.M.A.N.
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Except that there's no Kryptonite in brawl for Metaknight.
M@v
Subarashii!
Superman can fly. Flash can't. All that speed can't do flash squat if he cant even REACH superman. GG flash.
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well, technically flash could fly due to the curvature of the earth. As long as he starts from the top of a mountain and maintains a vertical velocity that will keep him from falling to earth, he should just be able to become a satellite and loop the earth endlessly. Still, I think superman would win.
smallwolf24
Smash Journeyman
Superman especially when he decides not to hold back 
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LOL! "Don't get grabbed."
Leacero
Smash Lord
Flash goes back in time and kills baby Superman.
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D. KiTE
Smash Rookie
All seriousness? Flash would break his hand on Superman, trying to punch him, not only that? To my knowledge, Wally West at least, isn't the brightest bulb in the lot, and Superman would at least out think his strategies.
Superman's got an ARSENAL, Flash depends solely on his speed abilities. Yeah he's a fast mofo, but Superman isn't exactly slow either. Now if it were a race, Flash would smoke Supes. But a real fight?
No contest.
Superman's got an ARSENAL, Flash depends solely on his speed abilities. Yeah he's a fast mofo, but Superman isn't exactly slow either. Now if it were a race, Flash would smoke Supes. But a real fight?
No contest.
Leacero
Smash Lord
I'm going to have to direct you to post #7 of the topic. Though really, Wally doesn't even have to kill Superman, all he really has to do is run him into the Speedforce and leave him there. It won't be the first time they pulled a Super___ into it.
Smudge
Smash Lord
How could the Flash win, seriously? He had the same strength as a normal human, his punches wouldn't even hurt Superman.
Man of Steel, hands down.
Man of Steel, hands down.
AquaTech
We hit the potjack
Ding ding ding we have a winner!
ShadowNovan
Smash Cadet
I recall them racing and calling it a tie, since they were evenly matched and then had to go save the world for something...
I always thought that was complete and utter crap though. Assuming the Flash, was substantially faster then Superman as he should be I think he could take em.
I always thought that was complete and utter crap though. Assuming the Flash, was substantially faster then Superman as he should be I think he could take em.
Leacero
Smash Lord
Never happened in the comics, you're thinking about the Superman Animated Series episode. Comics-wise, Flash hands down is a LOT faster than Superman.
bob-charley
Smash Apprentice
I feel my brain shifting into nerdlinger mode. I can't stop mysefl now. D:
The question of who would win in a Superman versus Flash match, at it's core, is simple to answer: Superman. He has demonstrated countless times that he is capable of moving as fast as, if not faster, than the Flash (Wally West once noted that Superman was the only Justice Leaguer who didn't seem to be moving in slow motion to him), and without his speed, the Flash has no advantage.
And now, we get into the deeper questions.
- Which Superman? Are we talking Golden Age, Pre-Crisis, "I'll stop this nuclear explosion by gently cupping my hands around it to contain the blast, GET THAT ****ING KRYPTONITE AWAY FROM ME" Superman? Or is it more like like Silver/Modern Age, Post Crisis, "That nuclear explosion could hurt me, but Kryptonite's not a threat anymore" Superman? And yes, it matters.
- Which Flash? Is it Jay Garrick, the original, who's speed tops out around 700mph? Or is it one of the newer Flashes, who use the Speed Force to approach near lightspeed at times?
The question of who would win in a Superman versus Flash match, at it's core, is simple to answer: Superman. He has demonstrated countless times that he is capable of moving as fast as, if not faster, than the Flash (Wally West once noted that Superman was the only Justice Leaguer who didn't seem to be moving in slow motion to him), and without his speed, the Flash has no advantage.
And now, we get into the deeper questions.
- Which Superman? Are we talking Golden Age, Pre-Crisis, "I'll stop this nuclear explosion by gently cupping my hands around it to contain the blast, GET THAT ****ING KRYPTONITE AWAY FROM ME" Superman? Or is it more like like Silver/Modern Age, Post Crisis, "That nuclear explosion could hurt me, but Kryptonite's not a threat anymore" Superman? And yes, it matters.
- Which Flash? Is it Jay Garrick, the original, who's speed tops out around 700mph? Or is it one of the newer Flashes, who use the Speed Force to approach near lightspeed at times?
Leacero
Smash Lord
Superman has never reached the speed of light. And based on our previous posts, we are talking about current post-Crisis Superman vs current post-Crisis Wally West (of course if Wally wasn't post-Crisis Wally, he wouldn't be the Flash =P).
"and without his speed, the Flash has no advantage."
That's like saying "If Flash had no superpowers, then Superman would win."
Kri3o
Smash Apprentice
No, the only one who CAN beat Superman and Flash is...
Captain FALCON. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw
Lol but anyways Superman would crush Flash.
Captain FALCON. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw
Lol but anyways Superman would crush Flash.
my friend made this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oFJ87G85-E&feature=related, i like it better XD
And i'm still confident superman would win.
caption falcon... really?
bob-charley
Smash Apprentice
Gotcha.
Uh, yeah. He would, that's my point. I'm not saying Wally can't fight, because he's been in it plenty. It's just that if he weren't a Flash, he'd have no chance. I guess there's a chance he could go to Batman for help, but if this were one-on-one, he's up the creek.
Assuming he does have his powers... Hm. Close fight. Gotta give it to Wally. He can't match Supes punch-for-punch, but if it came right down to it, he could just run Supes straight into the Speed Force. It's drastic, but it would work.
Kri3o
Smash Apprentice
Lol thanks for pointing that out.
Fix'd.
I think I'ma change my mind, Flash would win, Flash can just run around all day untill Superman gets tired (which would mean the fight would last for a VERY LOOOONG time).
MyCurse4Life
Smash Ace
Ugh, there is no competition, superman is all of the above.
Leacero
Smash Lord
Post #7. That is all.
markchalky
Smash Rookie
ok so the fastest v the strongest?
well the flash guy would rush superman smack into his hardness and get KO ed
superman would move in for the kill but due to flash's speed his punch would go astray and get buried in the ground
flash would kick superman in the familyjewels, therefore killing him and superman would drop dead and squash flash
therefore the winner would have to be spiderman
well the flash guy would rush superman smack into his hardness and get KO ed
superman would move in for the kill but due to flash's speed his punch would go astray and get buried in the ground
flash would kick superman in the familyjewels, therefore killing him and superman would drop dead and squash flash
therefore the winner would have to be spiderman
Wally!
Smash Rookie
Superman cant kill what he cant touch. the Flash is just too fast!!!
ru5514n
Smash Ace
All Flash can do is run around. Superman can fly into space, and then punch the Earth at a huge speed, thus destroying the planet, and Flash with it.
Pikaville
Pikaville returns 10 years later.
No no no no no!
Flash simply CAN NOT beat Superman.
Superman is just the flash except stronger and with laser/x-ray vision,freeze breath and the ability to fly.
Being faster than your opponent doesn't help if he is invincible.
Flash simply CAN NOT beat Superman.
Superman is just the flash except stronger and with laser/x-ray vision,freeze breath and the ability to fly.
Being faster than your opponent doesn't help if he is invincible.
condemned_soul
Smash Champion
well i scan through the comics and i have to go with flash if he uses his full potential
In the comic ive never seen superman beat flash in a race. and from what im hearing Berry beat superman in a race when he was flash.
Flash could easiy just absorb supermans kinetic energy and end the fight when it first start not to mention flash can litterally steal people's speed.
and as for the speed not helping beat someone who is said to be invincible. superman does get beat up quiet a bit when he gets into a fight. Now imagine flash running at superman going faster then the time barrier to hit superman mutilple times. ^_^
you have to be more specific about which flash we are talking about.
In the comic ive never seen superman beat flash in a race. and from what im hearing Berry beat superman in a race when he was flash.
Flash could easiy just absorb supermans kinetic energy and end the fight when it first start not to mention flash can litterally steal people's speed.
and as for the speed not helping beat someone who is said to be invincible. superman does get beat up quiet a bit when he gets into a fight. Now imagine flash running at superman going faster then the time barrier to hit superman mutilple times. ^_^
you have to be more specific about which flash we are talking about.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
ITT: People who never read DC comics.
DUB
Smash Lord
With evidence like this you must be Flash himself...
Leacero
Smash Lord
Truth. I just stopped bothering to point people to post #7, since that basically outlines what the Flash can do, yet a bunch of people are still saying "O LAWL HE JUST RUNS FASTER."