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FL Social Thread:You Mad, You Lose.

AfroQT

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If only the lack of cities was the biggest problem with FF13.

Why are they making another "-2" game? Did X-2 sell well? I don't know very many people who like that game...
 

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If only the lack of cities was the biggest problem with FF13.

Why are they making another "-2" game? Did X-2 sell well? I don't know very many people who like that game...

I thought that was the only problem people had with the game? I mean by my other post I shoulda probably put this in but I also meant to say not having it linear would be nice to.
 

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I thought that was the only problem people had with the game? I mean by my other post I shoulda probably put this in but I also meant to say not having it linear would be nice to.
I'm sick, so i'm not going to write up a huge post about why 13 was bad. I will say that everything about the game outside of the story was done pretty terribly, including the battle system which for some reason received so much praise.
 

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I'm sick, so i'm not going to write up a huge post about why 13 was bad. I will say that everything about the game outside of the story was done pretty terribly, including the battle system which for some reason received so much praise.
I coulda sworn the battle system was really good. It was really good to me. If its not turned based it might as well being everything moving all the time.
 

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I coulda sworn the battle system was really good. It was really good to me. If its not turned based it might as well being everything moving all the time.
Didn't you not play the game? You just watched someone else play it, and thats not nearly the same. The battle system is beyond repetitive mainly due to you only being able to control 1 person at a time. Throughout the entire game you have to deal with the extremely sloppy AI on your team, and they can only be controlled indirectly at best. Combine that with other small nuisances such as Game Over if the leader dies (which is a first for a FF i'm pretty sure and definitely wasn't a good decision), AoE spells that you have no control over in terms of landing them or evading them (It's not like you can position your team in anyway at all, at best you can hope that someone stays back as they heal or that they rush in when they attack. When you do AoE spells on enemies you can only target 1 enemy, so you have to hope the other enemies are just in the vicinity when the time comes for you attack. This makes almost everything AoE pretty inconsistent. Okay not all spells because some spells have ridiculous range.).

Sorry if thats alil hard to read, but thats only touching on some of the problems in the game. Basically the battle system is far from good, maybe from a casual gamer standpoint its good where tbh to beat the game all you really have to do is press the A button like a champion (because this is probably the easiest FF). Honestly for this being a Final Fantasy it just drops the ball on so many levels. Honestly the story was good, and i give it that but gameplay wise it's just...not good.

ATLEAST thats my opinion and i've played every FF except X-2.
 

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I put forth that the game is bad in general.

I'd bet you anything that if "Final Fantasy" and "Squaresoft" weren't plastered all over the front of the case it wouldnt of sold nearly as well, and people would of acknowledged it for what the game really is (crap)
 

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I guess i should meet halfway, i mean the game isn't unplayable or anything. I'm just saying when compared to other FF its...well not even comparable, and when you compare it to RPGs in general...i'd say its average.

I personally think the battle system looked cool
Honestly taylor you didnt play the game, not to ride out your opinion, but you can't understand just how "not good" the battle system is until you sit down and put 20 hours into it.
 

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I guess i should meet halfway, i mean the game isn't unplayable or anything. I'm just saying when compared to other FF its...well not even comparable, and when you compare it to RPGs in general...i'd say its average.


Honestly taylor you didnt play the game, not to ride out your opinion, but you can't understand just how "not good" the battle system is until you sit down and put 20 hours into it.

I know. I did watch Josh play it all the way through. The battling never got boring to watch though.
 

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I have to go with Afro on this one. The battle system was extremely repetitive and actually pretty annoying sometimes. It had some stupid flaws, such as summons being completely useless, limited control over allies, and getting a game over when the leader dies. I didn't even feel any sense of accomplishment when I defeated enemies. There's also Vanille and her irritating voice. When she says stuff like "Take that!" and such it's fine, but for some reason she just goes on to just moan or grunt or something and it gets on my nerves. The fact that she's the most vocal of the group doesn't help, either.

Afro, you need to believe me that you'll like FFX-2. Out of all the FF games I've played, it definitely has the best battle system. It's much better than FFXIII's, at least. Also, did I ever return that game to you?


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When they say the battle system is repetitive. They mean you're doing the same thing in every fight. In this case: mash a button. Watching a screen you might not really feel the annoyance of it, but you get bored at how little variation there is in inputs you have to do for each fight.

Like imagine a Tales game with spells only accessible through a quick menu instead of mapped on the B button.(sorry if this is a bad/wrong example I don't remember FFXIII's battle system lol)

You're just hitting A all the time and throwing a spell out when you feel like it.

After twenty hours that will get to you.
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When they say the battle system is repetitive. They mean you're doing the same thing in every fight. In this case: mash a button. Watching a screen you might not really feel the annoyance of it, but you get bored at how little variation there is in inputs you have to do for each fight.

Like imagine a Tales game with spells only accessible through a quick menu instead of mapped on the B button.(sorry if this is a bad/wrong example I don't remember FFXIII's battle system lol)

You're just hitting A all the time and throwing a spell out when you feel like it.

After twenty hours that will get to you.
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All rpgs battle systems should be Tales based. XD
 

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I played through the game twice and sunk more than enough time into it to get all the achievements.

I can see why people hate it. I don't hate it. I thought the story was terrible but as is with most recent jrpgs (excluding Eternal Sonata)

I thought the battle system was alright. Boring for cannon fodder enemies but it was pretty fun for boss battles.

FFXIII was the last game that genuinely got me excited. It lived up to my hype.
 

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ff13 is by far one of my fav ff titles next to ff9 and ff10. like i love the paradigm system. only downside to it is when u have two commandos and the other commando refuses to attack the same enemy. some battles could only be won with staggering which brings me to the next point. the staggering system was decent. it provided easier battles but made some boss battles too easy. also when u fight the 2nd fa'icle the game became too easy. im only 30 hrs into the game but im 1-2 shotting everything cuz i upgraded my first weapon (gladius) for lightning into a juggernaut...also not to mention fang with a maxed taming pole +900 str with several kaiser wristguards omg so much atk.

game is too easy. needed more free running. needs better chests. more component prizes. easier way to make money besides selling equips. overall 8/10 lol

cant wait for ff13-2

i also love when fang says SQUIIIIIRRRRRRRMMMMM
 

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shamefully I've only played FF I through V.(emulated, but on original consoles, no ports) lol

III is my favorite so far x3

I'm being lazy about starting VI lol.

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i only played ff8,9,10,10-2, subscribed to 11 for like a week lol, didnt like 12 at all, 13 atm
 

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I played through the game twice and sunk more than enough time into it to get all the achievements.

I can see why people hate it. I don't hate it. I thought the story was terrible but as is with most recent jrpgs (excluding Eternal Sonata)

I thought the battle system was alright. Boring for cannon fodder enemies but it was pretty fun for boss battles.

FFXIII was the last game that genuinely got me excited. It lived up to my hype.
Eternal Sonata was ****ing amazinggggggg.
You ever hear of Lost Odyssey? You should play it. The storytelling (and the story in general) is just simply amazing words don't describe. The battle system is turn based, it's like an old school rpg in terms of gameplay. I'd give it a shot if you haven't played it already.

2Link if you've only played 1-5 then just continue along the path up till 9. IMO FFX is when the quality starts to drop off (producer/director changed...)
 

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i liked 9...was quite salty at 10, didnt play 11 or 12. I liked 13 honestly, probably will get XIII-2

but its k, cause Eternal sonata ****s on all of those games :laugh:
 

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Squaresoft has really lost its quality over the past few years.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks so. Outside of the main Final Fantasy series, SE was putting out some nice games until a few years ago when they really started going downhill.

Game Over if the leader dies (which is a first for a FF i'm pretty sure and definitely wasn't a good decision)
The [Shin] Megami Tensei series is not for you hahaha.


I'm being lazy about starting VI lol.
I still believe that you need to play the GBA port of FF5. The localization makes a big difference.
 
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